Wikidata:Property proposal/Stolperstein identifiers

Stolperstein identifiers

stolpersteine-berlin.de Stolperstein identifier

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic

   Done: stolpersteine-berlin.de Stolperstein ID (P8803) (Talk and documentation)

Description	identifier for Stolpersteine in Berlin issued by stolpersteine-berlin.de
Data type	External identifier
Domain	item stumbling stone (Q26703203) in Berlin (Q64) as statement, item (e.g. human (Q5)) in reference
Allowed values	[1-9]\d{0,3}
Example 1	Stolperstein dedicated to Richard Abraham (Q58232938) → 2
Example 2	Stolperstein dedicated to Paul Hinze (Q99480751) → 1083
Example 3	Stolperstein dedicated to Paul Hinze (Q99480837) → 7255
Example 4	Stolperstein dedicated to Helene Loszynski (Q44427299) → 7980
Source	issued by stolpersteine-berlin.de
Planned use	adding the identifiers to existing items, add missing statements on these items
Number of IDs in source	8296
Expected completeness	eventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URL	https://www.stolpersteine-berlin.de/biografie/$1

stolpersteine-hamburg.de Stolperstein identifier

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic

   Done: stolpersteine-hamburg.de Stolperstein ID (P8804) (Talk and documentation)

Description	identifier for Stolpersteine in Hamburg issued by stolpersteine-hamburg.de
Represents	stolpersteine-hamburg.de (Q100922705)
Data type	External identifier
Template parameter	1 in w:de:Vorlage:Stolpersteine Hamburg
Domain	item stumbling stone (Q26703203) in Hamburg (Q1055) as statement, item (e.g. human (Q5)) in reference
Allowed values	[1-9]\d{0,3}
Example 1	Stolperstein dedicated to Balthasar Brand (Q61965994) → 1
Example 2	Stolperstein dedicated to Alice Hertz (Q99543667) → 2066
Example 3	Stolperstein dedicated to Alice Hertz (Q62071154) → 4300
Example 4	Stolperstein dedicated to Otto Goetzke (Q97835015) → 6016
Source	issued by stolpersteine-hamburg.de, linked via template in German Wikipedia list articles
Planned use	completely add the identifiers, find more reliably inconsistencies and errors in Wikidata and deviations from the source, add items for the commemorated people
Number of IDs in source	5897
Expected completeness	eventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URL	https://www.stolpersteine-hamburg.de/?MAIN_ID=7&BIO_ID=$1

NSDOK Stolperstein identifier

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic

   Done: NSDOK Stolperstein ID (P8806) (Talk and documentation)

Description	identifier for Stolpersteine in Cologne issued by the NS-Documentation Center of the City of Cologne
Represents	NSDOK Stolperstein Database (Q100922759)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	item stumbling stone (Q26703203) in Cologne (Q365) as statement, item (e.g. human (Q5)) in reference
Allowed values	[1-9]\d{0,3}
Example 1	Stolperstein dedicated to Sara Kessler (Q98640496) → 536
Example 2	Stolperstein dedicated to Peter Baum (Q44200727) → 1454
Example 3	Stolperstein dedicated to Hilde Domin (Q43650619) → 2264
Source	issued by NSDOK
Planned use	add identifiers to the existing items (creating new items based on Commons and lists planned as well)
Number of IDs in source	2399
Expected completeness	eventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URL	https://museenkoeln.de/ns-dokumentationszentrum/default.aspx?s=2523&stid=$1

stolpersteine-bremen.de Stolperstein identifier

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic

   Done: stolpersteine-bremen.de Stolperstein ID (P8807) (Talk and documentation)

Description	identifier for Stolpersteine in Bremen issued by stolpersteine-bremen.de
Data type	External identifier
Domain	item stumbling stone (Q26703203) in Bremen (Q24879) as statement, item (e.g. human (Q5)) in reference
Allowed values	[1-9]\d{0,3}
Example 1	Stolperstein dedicated to Zallel Margulies (Q52822269) → 1
Example 2	Stolperstein dedicated to Hermann Böse (Q52734359) → 49
Example 3	Stolperstein dedicated to Hermann Böse (Q52734377) → 554
Example 4	Stolperstein dedicated to Karl Wastl (Q100412780) → 745
Source	issued by stolpersteine-bremen.de
Planned use	move identifiers from P973, compare some fields, e.g. dates, of the Stolpersteine
Number of IDs in source	745
Expected completeness	eventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URL	http://www.stolpersteine-bremen.de/detail.php?id=$1

snublestein.no Stolperstein identifier

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic

   Done: snublestein.no Stolperstein ID (P8808) (Talk and documentation)

Description	identifier for Stolpersteine in Norway issued by the Oslo Jewish Museum
Represents	Snublestein.no (Q100908057)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	item stumbling stone (Q26703203) in Norway (Q20) as statement, item (e.g. human (Q5)) in reference
Allowed values	[1-9]\d{0,2}
Example 1	Stolperstein dedicated to Ernst Sigmund Bernstein (Q44177388) → 5
Example 2	Stolperstein dedicated to Ruth Maier (Q44179381) → 92
Example 3	Stolperstein dedicated to David Glick (Q44178325) → 489
Source	issued by the Jewish Museum in Oslo (Q6189888) on snublestein.no
Planned use	add identifiers to existing Stolpersteine (completing Wikidata coverage based on Commons and lists planned as well)
Expected completeness	eventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URL	https://www.snublestein.no/p=$1/

Motivation

Those are identifiers by local associations for Stolpersteine. They can help to track down duplicate Stolpersteine in Wikidata and other inconsistencies, something that I find occasionally. Furthermore, the biographies — all the five sites have them — may provide additional material to support items for the commemorated people and to reconcile to them.

• Most of the close to 8800 Stolpersteine in Berlin are in the database of stolpersteine-berlin.de with the address, the name and a biography of the commemorated and date at which the Stolperstein got laid. As of now about half of those Stolpersteine are in Wikidata.
• Nearly every of the about 5900 Stolpersteine in Hamburg are in the database of stolpersteine-hamburg.de with the address next to which the Stolperstein is placed and the name of the commemorated and inscriptions. Some are enriched with biographies of the commemorated and thus is linked in the German Wikipedia list articles. To be able to replicate those lists based on Wikidata, the identifier would be needed. Wikidata is pretty much complete regarding Stolpersteine located in Hamburg and is only missing some not yet documented Stolpersteine from about a week ago.
• Most, if not all, of the about 2400 Stolpersteine in Cologne are in the database of their NS-Documentation Center with the commemorated name, address, usually pictures and sometimes biographies as well. Most Stolpersteine from Cologne are missing in Wikidata currently.
• Every or close to every of the more than 720 Stolpersteine in Bremen (not Bremerhaven) are in the database of stolpersteine-bremen.de. It usually contains the address, a biography and the and date at which the Stolperstein got laid. These Stolpersteine are currently connected via described at URL (P973) to this external database. Wikidata should be complete regarding Stolpersteine located in Bremen.
• Likely every of the more than 600 Stolpersteine located in Norway have an id by the Oslo Jewish Museum. Albeit the smallest, likely the most complete database since from Norway only 772 Jews were deported[1]. It is used by every but two items for Stolpersteine in Norway currently as a source. The Stolpersteine were added in 2017 and therefore a third is missing as of now.

--CamelCaseNick (talk) 17:58, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

Discussion

MB-one (talk) 14:43, 24 November 2017 (UTC) IvaBerlin (talk) 10:04, 25 November 2017 (UTC) Agathoclea (talk) 10:06, 25 November 2017 (UTC) Fridolin freudenfett (talk) 10:44, 25 November 2017 (UTC) TweetsFactsAndQueries (talk) 11:59, 26 November 2017 (UTC) Namrood (Pdproject) (talk) 19:35, 26 November 2017 (UTC) Vesihiisi (talk) 16:48, 30 November 2017 (UTC) Looniverse (talk) 21:36, 4 December 2017 (UTC) P.geisler (talk) 13:23, 5 December 2017 (UTC) Daniel Mietchen (talk) 13:29, 6 December 2017 (UTC) Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits Nortix08 (talk) 09:16, 21 January 2019 (UTC) McSearch (talk) 10:03, 18 October 2019 (UTC) Elya (talk) 15:02, 10 November 2019 (UTC) Husky (talk) 22:29, 18 March 2020 (UTC) CamelCaseNick (talk) 23:00, 11 April 2020 (UTC) Nils Casties (talk) 09 July 2022 add your name!

Notified participants of WikiProject Stolpersteine --CamelCaseNick (talk) 20:09, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

•  Support Didn't know we had these in Wikidata, this is nice. ArthurPSmith (talk) 17:38, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
•  Support Helpful. NNW (talk) 18:50, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
•  Support --TweetsFactsAndQueries (talk) 21:37, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
•  Support Nortix08 (talk) 13:07, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
•  Support --Hannes Röst (talk) 19:07, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done @CamelCaseNick, ArthurPSmith, NordNordWest, TweetsFactsAndQueries, Nortix08, Hannes Röst: Properties created. Lymantria (talk) 15:06, 15 November 2020 (UTC)