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canonization status
stage in the process of attaining sainthood per the subject's religious organization
Descriptiona person's canonization status - canonization (Q51621). See Template:Canonization (Q10593377). Qualify with point in time (P585) and conferred by (P1027).
Representscanonization status (Q15978876)
Data typeItem
Template parameteren:Template:Infobox pope styles : deathstyle ("Posthumous style")
Domain
According to this template: people
According to statements in the property:
human (Q5), group of humans (Q16334295) and narrative entity (Q21070598)
When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Allowed valuestypes of canonization status (Q15978876), such as Servant of God, Venerable, Blessed, Saint... (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
ExampleJohn Paul II (Q989)saint (Q43115)
Tracking: usageCategory:Pages using Wikidata property P411 (Q23909050)
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Current uses9,625
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  Value type “canonization status (Q15978876): This property should use items as value that contain property “instance of (P31)”. On these, the value for instance of (P31) should be an item that uses subclass of (P279) with value canonization status (Q15978876) (or a subclass thereof). (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P411#Value type Q15978876, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
  Type “human (Q5), group of humans (Q16334295), narrative entity (Q21070598): element must contain property “instance of (P31)” with classes “human (Q5), group of humans (Q16334295), narrative entity (Q21070598)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P411#type Q5, Q16334295, Q21070598, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
  Item “sex or gender (P21): Items with this property should also have “sex or gender (P21)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P411#Item P21, search, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
  Item “date of birth (P569): Items with this property should also have “date of birth (P569)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P411#Item P569, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
  Item “place of birth (P19): Items with this property should also have “place of birth (P19)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P411#Item P19, search, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
  Item “feast day (P841): Items with this property should also have “feast day (P841)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P411#Item P841, search, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
  Mandatory qualifier “point in time (P585): this property should be used with the listed qualifier. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P411#mandatory qualifier, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
  Conflicts with “given name (P735): Beata (Q338015), Beato (Q18039716), Beatus (Q791660), Santa (Q16281197), Santo (Q3949468), Saint (Q54232123): this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Known exceptions: Beatus of Liébana (Q553113), Beatus of Lungern (Q324548), title of Mary (Q1509831)
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P411#Conflicts with P735, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
  Data missing
Please add data about this person. (Help)
Violations query: SELECT ?item { ?item wdt:P411 ?value. FILTER NOT EXISTS { ?item wdt:P793 [] }. FILTER NOT EXISTS { ?item wdt:P20 [] }. FILTER NOT EXISTS { ?item wdt:P570 [] }. FILTER NOT EXISTS { ?item wdt:P21 [] }. FILTER NOT EXISTS { ?item wdt:P31 [] }. FILTER NOT EXISTS { ?item wdt:P841 [] }. FILTER NOT EXISTS { ?item wdt:P119 [] }. FILTER NOT EXISTS { ?item wdt:P39 [] }. FILTER NOT EXISTS { ?item wdt:P19 [] }. }
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P411#Data missing

constraint report relating to Wikimedia disambiguation page (Q4167410)Edit

If instance of (P31) is a Wikimedia disambiguation page (Q4167410) the presence of canonization status (P411) is prohibited

see: Wikimedia disambiguation page (Q4167410) with canonization status (P411) . Usualy there might be more possibilities:
a) Please identify the non - ambiguation page (WD item) where the property canonization status should be moved;
"normally" no other statements should be left at the disambiguation page.
It can happen that a set of properties should be moved to another (a second) WD item, another set to a third WD item etc.
b) (recomended method:) Verify which language is a disambiguation page and separate it from the rest. Please use Gadget-labelLister.js can be activated at preferences#gadgets to remove all faulty (disambiguation) descriptions after the disambiguation page is separated: Verify the descriptions for the following languages: de, en, fr, es, pt, pt-br, ru, sv which where added by bots long time ago and take a short look at the other language descriptions.
c) If method b) can not be used because all linked WMF-project language pages are (local) disambiguation pages please create a new WD item and add a proper description in your native language and in English.

Today 95 items are found. Thanks in advance! gangLeri לערי ריינהארט (talk) 16:38, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

  • I don't feel this wrong - many disambigs list only saints, so it is possible to tag them as "beatification status"="saint", I suppose. --Infovarius (talk) 09:18, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Denomination qualifier?Edit

Some people are Saints in some Churches, but not in others (e.g. see the infoboxes at w:Epimachus of Pelusium, w:Saint Pelagia). Can canonization status (P411): saint (Q43115) be qualified to the effect? Thanks. It Is Me Here t / c 14:41, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Catholic saint (Q3464126)Edit

@Kareyac, Ricordisamoa: is Catholic saint (Q3464126) acceptable value for this property? Or it must be replaced to saint (Q43115)? This item cause many violations of value type constraint because Catholic saint (Q3464126) is not instance of canonization status (Q15978876). — Ivan A. Krestinin (talk) 12:51, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

If Catholic saint (Q3464126) is saint (Q43115) only in Catholicism (Q1841), let it stay. I don't know if all Catholic saint (Q3464126) and saint (Q43115) should have canonization status (P411). I added canonization status (P411) Catholic saint (Q3464126) to all in Category:Roman Catholic saints (Q5642200) in according to preamble in Категория:Католические святые, Saint catholique and list of Catholic saints (Q6566424). What can be suggested? - Kareyac (talk) 14:30, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Others santity recognitionsEdit

Can this property contain some other recognized "title" of santity like martyr (Q6498826), Confessor of the Faith (Q2354129) or Passion bearer (Q2032316) ? (see some others: en:List_of_Eastern_Orthodox_saint_titles). Now, this personal attributes are as a instance of (P31) or occupation (P106) or even position held (P39), which difficults an homogeneous treatement. Is it right ? --Amadalvarez (talk) 05:14, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

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