Wikidata:Property proposal/Archives Portal Europe ID

Archives Portal Europe ID

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control

Done: Archives Portal Europe ID (P7764) (Talk and documentation)

Description	Identifier for an archival institution in the directory of Archives Portal Europe
Data type	External identifier
Domain	item; archival institutions archive (Q166118)
Example 1	Regional Archives in Lund (Q7308998) → SE-LLA
Example 2	Greifswald Regional Archive (Q1802097) → DE-2109-LAG
Example 3	Archiwum Państwowe w Toruniu (Q11686654) → PL-69
Planned use	Wikimedia Sverige is working with Archives Portal Europe to upload the directory of over 6,000 institutions to Wikidata.
Number of IDs in source	6869
Formatter URL	https://www.archivesportaleurope.net/directory/-/dir/ai/code/$1
See also	ISIL (P791): identifier for a library or related organization

Motivation

Wikimedia Sverige is currently collaborating with Archives Portal Europe to license their institution directory as CC0 and upload the data to Wikidata. There are currently over 6,000 entries in the directory and the property will make it possible to link the Wikidata items back to the website. Alicia Fagerving (WMSE) (talk) 10:29, 19 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Support. Nomen ad hoc (talk) 17:13, 19 November 2019 (UTC).[reply]
Support David (talk) 09:35, 20 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:36, 21 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support. YULdigitalpreservation (talk) 22:44, 21 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Question is this the same as ISIL (P791) ? --- Jura 10:53, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose for now, given the open question --- Jura 15:22, 26 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support Pmt (talk) 21:08, 27 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Question @Alicia_Fagerving_(WMSE): please explain what you will upload for Sweden. What is the added value? Have you a specification what will be done? In Sweden we have Swedish National Archive reference code (P5324) for the Swedish National Archive eg. Möllevången (Q10593520) has SE/MSA/01134 that I guess is the same as you have at Archives Portal Europe [1]. Will Swedish church books be represented in another way? we have already done a project size abt. 10 manmonths and we are also starting to add personal archives see list but we have added Swedish National Archive reference code (P5324) on the church parish or the person/organisation/event. Please give examples what you will do regarding to Swedish Archives in this Archive Portal I have difficulties to see added value using a copy of the original archive it feels more like adding confusion... - Salgo60 (talk) 23:43, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Salgo60: This upload is about the archival institutions themselves (their coordinates, addresses, official website addresses etc), not their collections. If all Swedish institutions in the directory are already in Wikidata then possibly data that is in the directory but not in the Wikidata item will be added, such as the ID number. It will in no way overlap with your work or affect the items of churchbooks. Sincerely, --Alicia Fagerving (WMSE) (talk) 06:17, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Jura1: – I actually don't know that, so I've sent a question to APE. But from a quick look, it doesn't seem so, for example:

* State Archives of North Rhine-Westphalia (Q1724217) in APE: DE-00000909

* and in the German ISIL portal: DE-2191

@Jura1: I've got a reply from them. If the partner institution is able to provide an ISIL code, that code is indeed re-used as their identifier in APE. But they do assign custom codes if the institution does not provide an ISIL code. --Alicia Fagerving (WMSE) (talk) 10:02, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2, Nomen ad hoc, YULdigitalpreservation, Salgo60, Pmt, Pigsonthewing: @Alicia Fagerving (WMSE), Jura1: Done: Archives Portal Europe ID (P7764). − Pintoch (talk) 18:02, 30 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]