Wikidata:Property proposal/Classification of the best at metas volantes

Classification of the best at metas volantes

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Sports

   Done: classification of the best at metas volantes (P4958) (Talk and documentation)

Description	secondary classification for bicycle race statistics used in hispanic language countries
Data type	Item
Template parameter	See below
Domain	sport cyclist (Q2309784)
Allowed values	human (Q5)
Example	Javier Gómez (Q15303445) → metas volantes classification → Zico Waeytens (Q3575474), ranking (P1352) : 1, points for (P1358) : 31 Óscar Sevilla (Q293473), ranking (P1352) : 2, points for (P1358) : 24 Jaime Castañeda (Q1369022), ranking (P1352) : 3, points for (P1358) : 15 ...
Source	Website of organisers for exemple
Planned use	A function metasvolantesclassification will be created in the Module:Cycling race. We have a case on fr:Clásico RCN 2016#Classement des étapes volantes.
Robot and gadget jobs	Yes

For the proposition, see Wikidata:Property proposal/classifications. --Fralambert (talk) 17:04, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

•  Support Even if it may not be used in as many cases as other related properties. Could it have a better title in English? It may be jargon, but the name is completely unknown to me as a Norwegian. (However, the Danish description gives me an idea to what it is.) Also, it appears to be something wrong in the example, as it is there applied to a person, not a race. Bergenga (talk) 22:54, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
•  Oppose, use

significant person (P3342) = XXX

Qualifier: award received (P166) = YYY ChristianKl (talk) 20:58, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

•  Support that is good for cycling items --Mr. Ibrahem (talk) 17:19, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
•  Support ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2 (talk) 19:06, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
• Currently, the description matches the label. If you want this property please provide a description that adds information that's not contained in the description. Some people might not know what "metas volantes" happens to mean. ChristianKl (✉) 14:46, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
• @Fralambert, Bergenga, ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2, Mr. Ibrahem:
  MisterSynergy Thierry Caro Vanbasten_23 Malore Сидик из ПТУ Mathieu Kappler Lee Vilenski Erokhin Dandilero Blackcat Looniverse
  Notified participants of WikiProject Sports ChristianKl (✉) 14:07, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
•  Oppose unless someone explains why ChristianKl's alternative is not satisfactory, and provides a meaningful description − Pintoch (talk) 16:54, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
• After months of inactivity I am marking this as not done, feel free to reopen once the comments above are addressed. − Pintoch (talk) 12:49, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
  • Sorry for the late @Pintoch:, I just see now the page in my follow list. On cycling, we use classifications as you can see on 2017 Tour de France (Q21821246). We don't use significant person (P3342) but we use for this winner (P1346) where we have numerous qualifiers. Datas can be reused in articles of different Wikipedias thanks to an algorithm. Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick (talk) 20:03, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
    • Reopening then. − Pintoch (talk) 09:37, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
• @Fralambert: as far as I can tell, the only thing we need to create this property is a meaningful description (which gives more information than the label itself). − Pintoch (talk) 17:08, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
  • To give more information, it is a classification we found on races, specially on hispanic language countries. It is one of the secondary classification. Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick (talk) 20:56, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
    • @Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick: cool. Could you turn that into a property description and write it in the proposal template above? The current description is "Classification of the best at metas volantes", which is exactly the same thing as the label, so this needs to be changed.− Pintoch (talk) 10:23, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
      •  Done Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick (talk) 10:40, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
        • @Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick: thanks a lot. I still need your help to understand the example - the structure is not clear to me. Maybe it would help if you could describe the statements using {{Statement+}}? − Pintoch (talk) 12:29, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Property	Zico Waeytens edit ranking 1 points for 31 distinctive jersey fuchsia jersey, sprint classification 0 references add reference Óscar Sevilla edit ranking 2 points for 24 0 references add reference Jaime Castañeda edit ranking 3 points for 15 0 references add reference
		add value

Hard to understand, but finally easy to use, I made you an example of the use of a such property. Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick (talk) 15:04, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

@Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick: fantastic! And on which item should these statements be made? It looks like this has not been specified in the proposal template. − Pintoch (talk) 19:46, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

A cycling race that use this classification, editions of the Volta a Catalunya (Q755125) use this project of property. And when we will have this property, a new function will be created on the Module:Cycling race and we will have a new function that permits to display the classification in Wikipedias articles, able to work on different Wikipedias. Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick (talk) 09:20, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

@Mr. Ibrahem, ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2, Fralambert, Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick, ChristianKl, Pintoch: @Bergenga:  Done: classification of the best at metas volantes (P4958). − Pintoch (talk) 17:25, 16 March 2018 (UTC)