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Wikidata:Property proposal/OlympicChannel athlete ID

OlympicChannel athlete IDEdit

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control

Descriptionidentifier for an athlete at www.olympicchannel.com
RepresentsOlympic Channel athletes database (Q56411957)
Data typeExternal identifier
Allowed values[a-z0-9\-]+
Example 1Steve Redgrave (Q52679)steven-redgrave
Example 2Patrick Stevens (Q1829791)patrick-stevens-1
Example 3Usain Bolt (Q1189)usain-bolt
Example 4Sven Kramer (Q111320)sven-kramer
Sourcehttps://www.olympicchannel.com/en/athletes/
Planned usedata of Sports-Reference.com (Q18002875) is about to be hosted at Olympic Channel athletes database (Q56411957), and the former will be shut down at some point [1]
Number of IDs in sourcearound 150.000 (number of Olympic athletes)
Expected completenesseventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URLhttps://www.olympicchannel.com/en/athletes/detail/$1/
Robot and gadget jobsif possible, we should try to migrate identifiers from Sports-Reference.com Olympic athlete ID (P1447) automatically; ask Bill Mallon whether a mapping table would be possible to compile
See alsoSports-Reference.com Olympic athlete ID (P1447) and International Olympic Committee athlete ID (P3171)

MotivationEdit

As announced long time ago, data from Sports-Reference.com will be migrated to an IOC-owned website, which is online now (blog post by Bill Mallon). Since Sports-Reference.com will at some point no longer host data about the Olympics, we need to migrate to a new property. —MisterSynergy (talk) 17:31, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

DiscussionEdit

  •   Support (as proposer) —MisterSynergy (talk) 17:38, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
  •   Support David (talk) 08:53, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
  •   Support --Gabbg82 (talk) 16:19, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
  •   Support, of course. --Edgars2007 (talk) 05:53, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
  •   Support --RonaldH (talk) 15:42, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
  •   Supporteru [Talk] [french wiki] 17:51, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
  •   Comment – Would it be wise to wait a bit to see how this database develop and will look like first, since we already have both Sports-Reference.com Olympic athlete ID (P1447) and International Olympic Committee athlete ID (P3171) and also the more unoffical TheSports.org athlete ID (P4391) and I actually guess that the athlete-ID at this new property will be more like the Olympic.org ID than the Sports-reference.com/Olympics ID. But hopefully this new one will contain the sportsdata at the Sports-reference.com/Olympics but in addition also the OlympicChannel Videos (which many are out on their YouTube-channel) which is hopefully tagged to each athlete, olympic event, which is in the respective video-clip/videofilm and also inluded to the OlympicChannel athlete ID. My hope for this new property are that the double-ID's we have discovered in both the Sports-reference.com/Olympics ID and the Olympic.org ID will be corrected and joined into one ID. And another obswervation of mine is that some of the Olympic.org ID's are from some Youth Olympic participants and the link from the year competed in returns wrong olympic games, so instead of linking to youth olympic winter games in 2012 Innsbruck, Austria it links to the ordinary summer games in 2012 London, Great Britain. Best regards Migrant (talk) 20:19, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
    • Some comments: the new OlympicChannel database (this proposal) is a full replacement of www.Sports-Reference.com/Olympics (Sports-Reference.com Olympic athlete ID (P1447)), which will stop its service once the new site is up and running with all features. The underlying data is the same, technically they just switch to a new webhosting provider. I have no idea what the IOC will now do with their own Olympic.org database (International Olympic Committee athlete ID (P3171)) given that OlympicChannel is also under their control, and TheSports.org athlete ID (P4391) is by far not as excessive as SR until now (my personal opinion).
      This means that we should wait for a mapping table, which the SR/OC maintainers try to provide for us Wikimedians, and make an import into this new property then. Identifiers will not be fully identical to any other database (although being quite similar), thus we definitely need this new property. Once the identifiers are in Wikidata, Wikipedias can start to use them and replace the SR links to the new website once SR is offline. To my experience most of the Wikipedias like SR a lot and are rather sceptical about the move, so they will probably not start to replace it with OC links as long as possible. —MisterSynergy (talk) 21:15, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

@ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2, RonaldH, Migrant, Edgars2007, MisterSynergy, Gabbg82:   Done: Olympic Channel athlete ID (P5815). − Pintoch (talk) 10:15, 7 September 2018 (UTC)