Wikidata:Property proposal/Spectrum Computing

‎Spectrum Computing ID edit

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Creative work

Done: ‎Spectrum Computing ID (P12162) (Talk and documentation)

Represents	SpectrumComputing.co.uk (Q111488717)
Data type	External identifier
Example 1	Gunship (Q493675) → 2183
Example 2	International 3D Tennis (Q25990690) → 2495
Example 3	Strike Force Harrier (Q61654515) → 4949
Example 4	Sample Tracker (Q14328424) → 18899
External links	Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Expected completeness	eventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URL	https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/$1
See also	ZXDB ID (P4705)

Motivation edit

It looks like a well-maintained database for the ZX Spectrum (Q23882) that is already widely linked in English Wikipedia. – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Matthias M. (talk • contribs).

Discussion edit

Notified participants of WikiProject Video games 14:57, 11 November 2023 (UTC) – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Matthias M. (talk • contribs).

Support Lewis Hulbert (talk) 15:17, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The property name should refer to the identifier, not just the database name, like "Spectrum Computing ID". -wd-Ryan (Talk/Edits) 18:19, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Renamed it as suggested. Matthias M. (talk) 22:07, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 05:41, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Matthias M., Lewis Hulbert, Wd-Ryan: Done: ‎Spectrum Computing ID (P12162). Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 05:11, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Matthias_M., Kirilloparma: Wait, what? This is the same as ZXDB ID (P4705). SpectrumComputing is only a frontend for ZXDB − it says right there on the front page: « Proudly powered by the open source ZXDB database - The largest ZX Spectrum database in the world! » That’s why P4705 has https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/index.php?cat=96&id=$1 as third-party formatter URL (P3303). That’s why SpectrumComputing.co.uk (Q111488717)uses (P2283)ZXDB (Q111488733). This property is a mistake in my opinion. (also, geez, pings don’t work when unsigned) Jean-Fred (talk) 18:40, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I thought ZXDB was the software stack. However, it seems that they supply different content under the same ID, so it might be a Mod DB/Indie DB relationship? Matthias M. (talk) 18:48, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
As far as I know, all the websites (SpectrumComputing, ZXinfo, Classic World of Spectrum, etc.) that use ZXDB will have the exact same set of IDs, with perfect overlap. As far as I know, there is no situation where front-end A has an entry 1234 that does not exist in front-end B or vice-versa (which is the case for Mod DB/Indie DB, where one is only a subset of the other) Jean-Fred (talk) 18:57, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Jean-Frédéric: Yeah, I just now noticed that Spectrum is a fork of the already existing ZXDB and indeed a separate identifier is redundant in this case, since IDs are shared (strong GameRankings and GameFAQs vibes...), one is more than enough. I have no objection against the removal of this property. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 03:53, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. @Matthias M.: Please revise my tip on how to properly ping various wiki projects on Wikidata. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 03:53, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]