Wikidata:Property proposal/is program committee member of

is program committee member for edit

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Person

Not done

Description	MISSING
Data type	Item
Domain	human (Q5)
Allowed values	event (Q1656682)
Example 1	Miriam Redi (Q43372605) → Wiki Workshop 2018 (Q47035167)
Example 2	Charles Tesson (Q2960297) → 2018 Cannes Film Festival (Q43119724)
Example 3	MISSING
Expected completeness	always incomplete (Q21873886)

Begrundelse

Scientific meetings (conferences/workshops) has a group of researchers that determine which contributions (articles/abstracts/presentations/demos) that will be accepted to the meeting. This is usually called the program committee. For modeling scientific events a property catching this relationship is wanted.

This is the inverse of the suggestion at Wikidata:Property proposal/program committee member.

The suggestion here (as oppose to Wikidata:Property proposal/program committee member) may be better as some conferences may have over 1000 program committee members.

— Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 12:35, 30 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have changed the preposition from "of" to "for" for the name of the property. To me (as a second-language English speaker) that sounds better. I hope the change is regarded as an improvement and that it does not affect peoples opinion in a negative direction. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 17:32, 22 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Support David (talk) 14:51, 30 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment this should not be limited to scientific events but broadened to convention (Q625994) and other classes that may have a corresponding committee, such as awards. For instance the Ig Nobel Board of Governors is decides on the Ig Nobel Prize (Q184253).
- Should we then call it something else? I suppose prize committee members are not called "program committee" members? We could introduce a separate prize committee member property? — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 13:39, 1 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Question Some committees also have items, e.g. Committee for the Prize in Economic Sciences in Memory of Alfred Nobel (Q5152985), can we have a description how this property relates to potential items about individual committees? A more complete data model would be helpful. We need a WikiProject for conferences and regular events, don't we? -- JakobVoss (talk) 18:45, 30 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- I suppose for Committee for the Prize in Economic Sciences in Memory of Alfred Nobel (Q5152985) you could just use member of (P463)? And perhaps conferred by (P1027) to link to the prize. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 13:36, 1 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- And yes, a WikiProject for conferences could be a good idea. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 13:36, 1 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support Even though I support I like JakobVoss's idea to make this more general for other kinds of committees. I would like to bring conference data into Wikidata and focusing on "program committee members" would be a great choice to encourage this. Alternatively we could use a general property like "is a committee member of". I looked around and saw these existing similar properties. I do not think any of these is the right fit for this use and support the creation of some kind of committee property. member of (P463) comes close but some conferences, like Wikimania, let all attendees vote on things so I can understand how maybe we want a specific property to distinguish the designated committee members.

Blue Rasberry (talk) 20:21, 10 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the list! Most close come:

board member (P3320) for members of the executive board (Q897395) (board member (Q2824523) of an organization (Q43229)
supervisory board member (P5052) for members of the supervisory board (Q759969) of an organization (Q43229)

For the proposed property there should at least be a subject item "program committee". I changed to value class from scientific event (Q52260246) to event (Q1656682) and added an example to

Support the proposal. -- JakobVoss (talk) 10:46, 11 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe I was overly ambitious in starting this but to go along with this proposal I tried to set up Wikidata:WikiProject Event Metadata, a project to review and suggest models for how to capture aspects of academic conferences and other events in Wikidata. I had trouble filling in some gaps but I will think about it and add more. If this property is developed then that could be a component of modeling conferences in Wikidata. Blue Rasberry (talk) 21:08, 11 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Note the change of preposition mentioned under motivation. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 17:32, 22 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Wait I see no justification of why the link is in the proposed direction. I would expect that there are people who are in their lifetime in the program committee of a hundred events. To me it would make more sense to model this as a property of the event than as proposed to model it as a property of the person. ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 17:57, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Initially I proposed it in the other direction: Wikidata:Property proposal/program committee member. However, I then came to realise that some conferences has a very large number of program committee members. For instance, The Web Conference 2018 (Q48910401) has many more than hundred members (perhaps over 1000), see [1]. From an entry point of view the inverse property would perhaps be easier, since program committee members might be listed on a page. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 18:54, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose having both this and its inverse simultaneously. (Not opposed to having either of them individually.) --Yair rand (talk) 03:21, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose seems like this would just list countless events and duplicate data already available in the inverse.
--- Jura 10:07, 29 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Not done, use has program committee member (P5804) − Pintoch (talk) 11:34, 4 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]