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Count of taxon name (P225) and parent taxon (P171)
We have now more than 500,000 × parent taxon (P171) but still a lot of work to do. --Succu (talk) 16:00, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, this is less than a third? - Brya (talk) 19:22, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
It is noteworthy that the curve of P225 appears to be flattening, stabilizing a little below two million. This would be within the expected range for an endpoint. - Brya (talk) 05:51, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
250,000 more items are now connected via parent taxon (P171). --Succu (talk) 14:03, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
- A 50% increase over the last report, and approaching the halfway mark! P225 appears indeed to have stabilized. - Brya (talk) 05:47, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
I updated the diagram. --Succu (talk) 08:27, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
- Interesting, P225 is rising again, while the climb of P171 is flattening. Still not reached the halfway point for P171. - Brya (talk) 10:14, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
A little milestone: parent taxon (P171) is now used more than 1,000,000 times. --Succu (talk) 07:19, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
- Ah, past the halfway mark now. P225 is flattening again, and P171 is catching up. - Brya (talk) 10:34, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
- I've built some statistics about ranks and their problems: User:Infovarius/taxonomy. There you can see which taxa have no parent taxon (P171) (almost half of species, evidently) and their distribution. --Infovarius (talk) 10:51, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
- Thats not surprising. Yesterday I made a rough check on Osteichthyes (Q27207). More than 400 genera are still missing. That means we have not identfied them or - more probably - the items have to be created. --Succu (talk)
- Looks like a great tool. The results are somewhat depressing, but not really surprising. - Brya (talk) 16:39, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
- @Infovarius: it would be great if you could update this table on a regular base. --Succu (talk) 15:25, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
- It is done manually, so I can update by query but not too frequent. --Infovarius (talk) 15:34, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
- @Infovarius: automating this seems not a big deal to me. Do you wanna try it? --Succu (talk) 18:45, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
- @Succu:, I've done full update. If you want more regular, you can do automating (it's not on my list for now). --Infovarius (talk) 19:18, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
- @Infovarius: These are your private tables. So it's ok with me if you update them at your will. --Succu (talk) 22:00, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
- @Succu:, I've done full update. If you want more regular, you can do automating (it's not on my list for now). --Infovarius (talk) 19:18, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
- @Infovarius: automating this seems not a big deal to me. Do you wanna try it? --Succu (talk) 18:45, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
- It is done manually, so I can update by query but not too frequent. --Infovarius (talk) 15:34, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
- @Infovarius: it would be great if you could update this table on a regular base. --Succu (talk) 15:25, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
- Looks like a great tool. The results are somewhat depressing, but not really surprising. - Brya (talk) 16:39, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
Another little milestone: parent taxon (P171) is now used more than 1,500,000 times. --Succu (talk) 08:07, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
- A 50% increase over the last report! Now at more than 75% coverage. Looking good! - Brya (talk) 10:41, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
The gap between taxon name (P225) and parent taxon (P171) dropped below 250,000. --Succu (talk) 07:54, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
- So less than 15% remaining? That is good progress. - Brya (talk) 18:27, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
The count of taxon name (P225) raised above 1,900,000. The gap between taxon name (P225) and parent taxon (P171) dropped below 100,000. --Succu (talk) 10:12, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
- Coverage at 95%? Nearly there! - Brya (talk) 11:59, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
Update. Not much progress. Around 80,000 items left. --Succu (talk) 18:54, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
- Maybe closing the gap would happen sooner if you stopped adding new P225? I keep seeing more and more viruses added. - Brya (talk) 06:00, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
- That's not the problem. All my additions of virus species had all four properties and references. The main problem is that Wikidata Query (WDQ) gives unreliable (outdated) results for weeks. There are many genus items to create for nlwiki-species. Or around 4000 zhwiki plants that are missing their parent. I started to work with these. But I cannot control the work with WDQ. --Succu (talk) 10:35, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
- Isn't there some constraint that will turn up these? BTW those 4000 zhwiki plant sound scary: who knows how many of these are placed in non-existent genera ... - Brya (talk) 12:02, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
- A strange orchid genus I found is Triopidia. Not known by Tropicos and IPNI. --Succu (talk) 16:26, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
- No doubt a misspelling of Tropidia. - Brya (talk) 17:34, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
- A strange orchid genus I found is Triopidia. Not known by Tropicos and IPNI. --Succu (talk) 16:26, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
- Isn't there some constraint that will turn up these? BTW those 4000 zhwiki plant sound scary: who knows how many of these are placed in non-existent genera ... - Brya (talk) 12:02, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
- That's not the problem. All my additions of virus species had all four properties and references. The main problem is that Wikidata Query (WDQ) gives unreliable (outdated) results for weeks. There are many genus items to create for nlwiki-species. Or around 4000 zhwiki plants that are missing their parent. I started to work with these. But I cannot control the work with WDQ. --Succu (talk) 10:35, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
Since the beginning of this year I'm running some statistics based on the weekly json dumps. Maybe you find them useful. --Succu (talk) 07:32, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
There is a problem with the use of said to be the same as (P460). On the Talk page of the property there is Template:Constraint:Symmetric. Either this constraint should be removed or we should use a different property. I tried to find an existing property, like "use instead", "see instead", "belongs to", "is probably a duplicate of", "is correctly", but the closest I can find is "part of" which is not very close. - Brya (talk) 05:34, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
- I resolved most items with instance of (P31)=Wikimedia duplicated page (Q17362920) and said to be the same as (P460) using said to be the same as (P460) as a qualifier for instance of (P31)=Wikimedia duplicated page (Q17362920). What other cases are modeled with said to be the same as (P460)? --Succu (talk) 19:57, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
- For example the case directly above Rosa eglanteria L. (1753) (Q161146). I am now thinking it would go a long way to have a property "is synonym of" (the reciprocal of "taxon synonym"). - Brya (talk) 11:35, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
I made a list with items having taxon name (P225) and said to be the same as (P460) from the last json dump. Maybe that helps to identify and fix further cases --Succu (talk) 12:53, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
- Equus (Q27022) => zebroid (Q169518)
- Eupithecia (Q138267) => Catarina (Q374829)
- Thymelaeaceae (Q156109) => Aquilariaceae (Q2859262)
- Electrophorus electricus (Q201235) => Electrophorus electricus (Q12203782)
- Microphysogobio labeoides (Q385869) => Microphysogobio labeoides (Q10885788)
- Puntius semifasciolatus (Q771706) => Puntius semifasciolatus (Q10882074)
- Lophophorata (Q777853) => Lophotrochozoa (Q321481)
- Smallanthus sonchifolius (Q1075177) => Polymnia sonchifolia (Q15595862)
- Cortinariaceae (Q1331029) => Gigaspermataceae (Q2742517)
- Palinura (Q1788617) => Palinuridea (Q18042115)
- Ascalaphus libelluloides (Q1822834) => Libelloides coccajus (Q1310447)
- Galathowenia oculata (Q1848639) => Clymenia tenuissima (Q2299712)
- Atlantoraphidia maculicollis (Q2215325) => Atlantoraphidia maculicollis (Q2215325)
- Ascomycetes (Q2303475) => Ascomycota (Q174726)
- Thunnus (Q2346039) => tuna (Q17504707)
- Scolelepis texana (Q2461158) => Q2757882
- Colostethus fratisenescus (Q2838411) => Allobates fratisenescus (Q4682049)
- Coriolaceae (Q2997368) => Polyporaceae (Q658831)
- Sibon sanniolus (Q3022818) => Sibon sanniolus (Q15732810)
- Punctulariaceae (Q3410834) => Corticiaceae (Q1907113)
- Atepa (Q4813113) => Atepa (Q18523931)
- Potamonautes suprasulcatus (Q5226709) => Thelphusa suprasulcata (Q14467529)
- Pero (Q7169417) => Azelinopsis (Q10804798)
- Santisukia (Q9074341) => Barnettia Santisuk (1973) non Bat. & J.L.Bezerra (1962) (Q8242594)
- Cerinomycetaceae (Q10446735) => Dacrymycetaceae (Q3700748)
- Resupinataceae (Q10651334) => Tricholomataceae (Q1147371)
- Scortechiniaceae (Q10664469) => Nitschkiaceae (Q10601348)
- Sphaerophragmiaceae (Q10675157) => Raveneliaceae (Q7296446)
- Tulostomataceae (Q10706187) => Agaricaceae (Q913614)
- Petasites formosanus (Q10914802) => Petasites formosanus (Q10915053)
- Zosima (Q14393193) => Q17487720
- Fragilariophyceae (Q14539179) => Bacillariophyceae (Q2878349)
- Arctiidae (Q15043775) => Arctiinae (Q18392591)
- Alysicarpus hamosus (Q15474011) => Fabricia hamosa (Q15323345)
- Trichiaceae (Q15729754) => Trichiidae (Q2452611)
- Praetaxila cariya (Q15789085) => Praetaxila segecia (Q3020118)
- Abisara echeria lemeepauli (Q16275569) => Abisara echeria (Q13221095)
- Eutheria (Q17092469) => Placentalia (Q25833)
- Dasyuris catadees (Q17181911) => Dasyuris partheniata (Q13547354)
- Eumannia ismailaria (Q17186111) => Eumannia fatimaria (Q13552213)
- Entephria mallaszi (Q17186524) => Entephria infidaria (Q13540709)
- Erebia ruehli (Q17618118) => Erebia meolans (Q3319263)
- Mellicta ruehli (Q17618545) => Mellicta parthenoides (Q13571115)
- Praetaxila huonis (Q17618866) => Praetaxila weiskei (Q1826577)
- Placentalia (Q25833) => Eutheria (Q17092469), Placentalia (Q15303756)
- Pseudotsuga menziesii (Q156687) => Pseudotsuga menziesii (Q17275220)
- Pterospondylus (Q871939) => Procompsognathus (Q131446)
- cayenne pepper (Q1051958) => cayenne pepper (Q6598)
- Dipteridaceae (Q2117198) => Cheiropleuriaceae (Q2671539)
- Biscogniauxia (Q2153376) => Nummularia Tul. & C.Tul. (1863) non Hill (1756) (Q15974782)
- Rothschildia paucidentata (Q2446567) => Rothschildia paucidentata (Q13475804)
- Trichiidae (Q2452611) => Trichiaceae (Q15729754)
- Hydra viridis (Q2634830) => Hydra viridissima (Q1551947)
- Hippoglossus (Q2697230) => halibut (Q3074737)
- Humbertiaceae (Q3143207) => Convolvulaceae (Q145777)
- Glikmanius (Q5569622) => Glück (Q18572881)
- Asterothyriaceae (Q10420835) => Gomphillaceae (Q3110397)
- Cyphellopsidaceae (Q10464749) => Niaceae (Q1303980)
- Favolaschiaceae (Q10494441) => Mycenaceae (Q3116124)
- Massalongiaceae (Q10577990) => Peltigeraceae (Q3374559)
- Phillipsiellaceae (Q10627402) => Saccardiaceae (Q7396585)
- Rhizoplacopsidaceae (Q10653100) => Ophioparmaceae (Q7097957)
- Pteracanthus flexus (Q10929734) => Strobilanthes flexa (Q17682090)
- Hygrochroa amaryllis (Q13300148) => Apatelodes amaryllis (Q16829178)
- Hygrochroa ardeola (Q13300228) => Apatelodes ardeola (Q16829186)
- Rothschildia paucidentata (Q13475804) => Rothschildia paucidentata (Q2446567)
- Melasina cylindraula (Q13482925) => Typhonia cylindraula (Q14509910)
- Typhonia cylindraula (Q14509910) => Melasina cylindraula (Q13482925)
- Engelhardia aceriflora (Q15248769) => Engelhardia spicata (Q930553)
- Pteracanthus duclouxii (Q15248779) => Strobilanthes extensa (Q17682098)
- Placentalia (Q15303756) => Placentalia (Q25833)
- Malva thuringiaca (Q15375754) => Lavatera thuringiaca (Q3504701)
- Palamocladium congestum (Q15566739) => Pleuropus congestus (Q17207802)
- Polymnia sonchifolia (Q15595862) => Smallanthus sonchifolius (Q1075177)
- Bupleurum giganteum (Q17131902) => Hermas gigantea (Q17137966)
- Hermas gigantea (Q17137966) => Bupleurum giganteum (Q17131902)
- Compsoptera huebneri (Q17182000) => Compsoptera opacaria (Q1121994)
- Odontoloma schlechtendalii (Q17257477) => Odontosoria schlechtendalii (Q15585456)
- Arctiinae (Q18392591) => Arctiidae (Q15043775)
- Lymantriinae (Q18428789) => Lymantriidae (Q162734)
- Acrolophus antonellus (Q18560121) => Acrolophus fervida (Q4675962)
- Brassica oleracea var. botrytis (Q7537) => Romanesco broccoli (Q1775431)
- Avetheropoda (Q138921) => Neotetanurae (Q17861693)
- Aptenia cordifolia (Q141762) => Mesembryanthemum cordifolium (Q17251563)
- Pinguicula alpina (Q161401) => Pinguicula alpina (Q161401)
- Persicaria orientalis (Q164344) => Persicaria orientalis (Q10646872)
- Paradise crow (Q339695) => Paradise crow (Q10980809)
- Agaricaceae (Q913614) => Tulostomataceae (Q10706187)
- Hymenoscyphus pseudoalbidus (Q1394863) => Chalara fraxinea (Q10448107)
- Chaparana aenea (Q2245328) => Chaparana fansipani (Q3320164)
- Cheiropleuriaceae (Q2671539) => Dipteridaceae (Q2117198)
- Albula argenteus (Q2831971) => Albula glossodonta (Q2002988)
- Aquilariaceae (Q2859262) => Thymelaeaceae (Q156109)
- Salacia pyriformis (Q2955866) => Sertularia pyriformis (Q4008375)
- Gloeocystidiellaceae (Q3109066) => Stereaceae (Q2234239)
- Oncodostigma hainanense (Q3335468) => Chieniodendron hainanense (Q15400171)
- Congochromis dimidiatus (Q3656200) => Nanochromis dimidiatus (Q6424609)
- Demonax brachychona (Q3887327) => Parasabella saxicola (Q1837421)
- Floresorchestia pickeringi (Q4481639) => Platorchestia pickeringi (Q4474761)
- Allobates fratisenescus (Q4682049) => Colostethus fratisenescus (Q2838411)
- Colostethus capixaba (Q4735696) => Allobates olfersioides (Q644036)
- Polygrammodes (Q7226481) => Polygrammodes (Q11839310)
- Siphonanthus (Q10371973) => Clerodendrum (Q546906)
- Chalara fraxinea (Q10448107) => Hymenoscyphus pseudoalbidus (Q1394863)
- Melogrammataceae (Q10581346) => Melanconidaceae (Q6811198)
- Porpidiaceae (Q10637899) => Lecideaceae (Q6511688)
- Psolos (Q10809430) => Sancus (Q7415739)
- Anaphalis nepalensis (Q11041220) => Anaphalis nepalensis (Q11041248)
- Smilax menispermoidea (Q11054848) => Smilax menispermoidea (Q15250628)
- Pteracanthus dryadum (Q11107209) => Strobilanthes dryadum (Q17682111)
- Petasites tricholobus (Q11128415) => Petasites tricholobus (Q11128417)
- Hygrochroa albipunctata (Q13300072) => Apatelodes albipunctata (Q16829175)
- Diploglossinae (Q13537401) => Diploglossidae (Q18085964)
- Potamocarcinus magnus (Q14160761) => Potamocarcinus magnus (Q14160691)
- Thelphusa suprasulcata (Q14467529) => Potamonautes suprasulcatus (Q5226709)
- Trachydium involucellatum (Q15232609) => Trachydium involucellatum (Q15235482)
- Pteracanthus gongshanensis (Q15355792) => Strobilanthes inflata (Q17682042)
- Chieniodendron hainanense (Q15400171) => Oncodostigma hainanense (Q3335468)
- Solenophora endlicheriana (Q15444155) => Hippodamia endlicheriana (Q15501066)
- Hippodamia endlicheriana (Q15501066) => Solenophora endlicheriana (Q15444155)
- Gammiella pterogonioides (Q15596685) => Pleuropus pterogonioides (Q17208334)
- Praetaxila yaniya (Q15791416) => Praetaxila segecia (Q3020118)
- Acraea rueppellii (Q16275591) => Acraea masamba (Q4674931)
- Amathusia kuehni (Q16275748) => Amathusia phidippus (Q3375240)
- Anatole egaensis (Q16275766) => Anatole zygia (Q15770042)
- Apatelodes (Q16829167) => Hygrochroa (Q10299037)
- Cosmorhoe moroessa (Q17181997) => Lampropteryx moroessa (Q13381756)
- Acroscyphella iwatsukii (Q17298391) => Acroscyphus iwatsukii (Q17295810)
- Dicotyledones (Q17324333) => Dicotyledones (Q8316)
- Maba (Q17421225) => Diospyros (Q165258)
- Diploglossidae (Q18085964) => Diploglossinae (Q13537401)
- Dicotyledones (Q8316) => Dicotyledones (Q17324333)
- Anserini (Q82562) => goose (Q16529344)
- Ariocarpus agavoides (Q137206) => Ariocarpus agavoides (Q15325711)
- Idaea (Q142552) => Q10733976
- Populus × canadensis (Q149622) => Populus ×canadensis ʽLeipzig’ (Q15246772), Populus ×canadensis ʽEugenei’ (Q15247582), Populus ×canadensis ʽSerotina’ (Q15248310), Q15252158
- Oxalis corniculata (Q162795) => Oxalis corniculata (Q10549633)
- Pteridophyta (Q178249) => Pteridophyta (Q2912898)
- Nitrifying bacteria (Q556225) => Q11587661
- Rhabdamia cypselurus (Q1248805) => Verulux cypselurus (Q18358840)
- Libelloides coccajus (Q1310447) => Ascalaphus libelluloides (Q1822834)
- Hydra viridissima (Q1551947) => Hydra viridis (Q2634830)
- Albula glossodonta (Q2002988) => Albula argenteus (Q2831971)
- Helminthostachyaceae (Q2212271) => Ophioglossaceae (Q740217)
- Hyphodermataceae (Q2554049) => Meruliaceae (Q2502557)
- Chaparana fansipani (Q3320164) => Chaparana aenea (Q2245328)
- Ramariaceae (Q3418365) => Gomphaceae (Q2630048)
- Diastoma varium (Q3735616) => Bittiolum varium (Q3171372)
- Platorchestia pickeringi (Q4474761) => Floresorchestia pickeringi (Q4481639)
- Lecideaceae (Q6511688) => Porpidiaceae (Q10637899)
- Notoptera (Q7063244) => Otopappus (Q7109000)
- Sancus (Q7415739) => Psolos (Q10809430)
- Ixora chinensis (Q9010209) => Ixora chinensis (Q9943474)
- Hygrochroa (Q10299037) => Apatelodes (Q16829167)
- Iodosphaeriaceae (Q10536463) => Amphisphaeriaceae (Q4064639)
- Saccoblastiaceae (Q10659878) => Phleogenaceae (Q4982469)
- Syzygosporaceae (Q10687828) => Carcinomycetaceae (Q10442555)
- Nothoperanema hendersonii (Q10960359) => Q11092169
- Hygrochroa adrastria (Q13300010) => Apatelodes adrastia (Q16829171)
- Hygrochroa anna (Q13300212) => Apatelodes anna (Q16829182)
- Ariocarpus agavoides (Q15325711) => Ariocarpus agavoides (Q137206)
- Asterias ciliata (Q15731807) => Ophiura ophiura (Q2223690)
- Sibon sanniolus (Q15732810) => Sibon sanniolus (Q3022818)
- Praetaxila punctaria (Q15789908) => Praetaxila segecia (Q3020118)
- Melitaea ornata (Q15795594) => Melitaea telona (Q6812941)
- Pteracanthus (Q15940966) => Strobilanthes (Q2473702)
- Amata luetkemeyeri (Q16275747) => Amata herthula (Q13310753)
- Anisodes scioessa (Q16275824) => Anisodes argentosa (Q13373670)
- Ascotis buechlei (Q16275902) => Ascotis fortunata (Q13399491)
- Attacus ruegeri (Q16275948) => Attacus dohertyi (Q2092813)
- Maba piscatoria (Q17244469) => Diospyros piscatoria (Q15341099)
- Maba buxifolia (Q17245824) => Diospyros ferrea (Q15245351)
- Mesembryanthemum cordifolium (Q17251563) => Aptenia cordifolia (Q141762)
- Acroscyphella nitidissima (Q17298392) => Acroscyphus nitidissimus (Q17295813)
- Macroglossum (Q17490509) => Angiopteris (Q4763285)
- Strobilanthes flexa (Q17682090) => Pteracanthus flexus (Q10929734)
- Palinuridea (Q18042115) => Palinura (Q1788617)
I went through them as best I could, and moved all the "said to be the same" from properties to qualifiers. I don't know if I caught them all (it is a pretty complex web of links). Still, I can't help feeling that it would be better to have a separate property like "is a synonym of", "now correctly", etc. - Brya (talk) 06:44, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
Duplicate IPNI and other
Hello, some taxon-related properties has violations now. Earlier its were clear. Your project assistance will be good to restore previous quality level. Hourly-updated violations report: Wikidata:Database reports/Constraint violations/Mandatory constraints/Violations. — Ivan A. Krestinin (talk) 08:42, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
- Be patient, Ivan. I'll fix them later this week. --Succu (talk) 08:51, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
- Whatever it is, it seems not to be limited to IPNI, but also includes Tropicos and The Plant List. - Brya (talk) 11:58, 16 February 2015 (UTC)