Property talk:P1103

Latest comment: 6 years ago by Liuxinyu970226 in topic Layout

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number of platform tracks
number of tracks served by the platforms at a railway station
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Range from “0” to “67”: values should be in the range from “0” to “67”. (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1103#Range, hourly updated report
Units: “novalue”: value unit must be one of listed. (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1103#Units, hourly updated report
No bounds: values can't have any bounds (e.g. 1 not 1±0) (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1103#No Bounds, SPARQL
Integer: values should be integers (ie. they shouldn't have a fractional part) (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1103#integer, SPARQL
Type “public transport stop (Q548662): item must contain property “instance of (P31)” with classes “public transport stop (Q548662)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1103#Type Q548662, hourly updated report, SPARQL
Item “number of platform faces (P5595): Items with this property should also have “number of platform faces (P5595)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1103#Item P5595, SPARQL
Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1103#Entity types
Scope is as main value (Q54828448): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1103#Scope, SPARQL

Usage note

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An island platform as depicted in the diagram should be treated as two platforms, as there are two tracks serving that platform (platforms 3 and 4). The total number of platform in the station in the diagram would be 4. The precision of the value should be set to 0. --Wylve (talk) 15:51, 31 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Precision fixed for all places where this property is used (so far). --Jakob (talk) 22:41, 31 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
@Wylve: and @Jakec: In the Netherlands we count all tracks. Take for example Haarlem railway station (Q800863). It has 8 tracks, but track 2 (image) and 7 (map) don't have a platform next to it. On the Dutch Wikipedia this stations has 3 platforms and 6 platform tracks (of which 2 are bay platforms). How to model this correctly here? Multichill (talk) 13:16, 12 April 2014 (UTC)Reply
@Multichill:: From what I can deduce from the map you linked, the station has 6 platforms and 8 tracks. I think that the 3 platforms the Dutch wiki is referring to, are the two side platforms and one island platform. This system wouldn't work, as there are many platforms that use island platforms, but with two trains serving the opposite direction. These two directions are served by two platforms. Even in Haarlem railway station (Q800863), the island platform hosts four distinct platforms. I would recommend that you put 6 as the number of platforms for Haarlem railway station (Q800863). —Wylve (talk) 16:32, 12 April 2014 (UTC)Reply
@Wylve: So we have several numbers if we take Haarlem railway station (Q800863) as an example:
  • Number of tracks: 8 (no property available AFAIK)
  • Number of platforms: 3 (this property shouldn't be used for that)
  • Number of tracks with a platform next to it: 6 (this property should be used for that)
So name and description of this property is currently unclear. This is what we call "Perronsporen" in Dutch: The number of tracks ("sporen") that have a platform ("perron") next to it. I would propose updating the English description to something like "number of tracks with a platform in a railway station". Agree? Multichill (talk) 16:48, 12 April 2014 (UTC)Reply
@Multichill: Agreed. I'll change the English description. We might have to propose a few new properties to include information about the number of tracks and the number of physical platforms (regardless of tracks serving it). —Wylve (talk) 16:52, 12 April 2014 (UTC)Reply
Please join Wikidata:Property_proposal/Transportation#number_of_platform_faces for further discussions on platforms. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 13:47, 3 February 2017 (UTC)Reply
It's now at Wikidata:Property_proposal/number_of_island_platforms (withdrawn in April 2017).
--- Jura 14:50, 5 November 2017 (UTC)Reply

Chinese labels

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@Liuxinyu970226: Why did you change the Chinese labels back to "number of platforms" from "number of platform tracks"? Jc86035 (talk) 09:52, 19 February 2017 (UTC)Reply

Because of "Should I use "站台数目" instead now? I think so, yes." --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 09:55, 19 February 2017 (UTC)Reply
Maybe we should ask @Wylve: for a better name? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 10:08, 19 February 2017 (UTC)Reply

Re-scoping in 2015 or 2014

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As mentioned (by User:Pasleim) in the deletion discussion, the label was changed in October 2015 ([1]). Somehow this changed the scope of the property. More about this in the deletion discussion.
--- Jura 13:30, 5 November 2017 (UTC)Reply

Actually, the description was changed in April 2014 [2] (per discussion above).
--- Jura 14:50, 5 November 2017 (UTC)Reply
@Wylve, Nenntmichruhigip: per above, this property is undergoing a foggy criteria. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 12:51, 25 November 2017 (UTC)Reply

Layout

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On a related matter: there is a collection of layout templates at id:Kategori:Layout stasiun.
--- Jura 21:22, 13 February 2018 (UTC)Reply

Wikimedia route diagram (Q17146139)? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 14:44, 14 February 2018 (UTC)Reply
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