Property talk:P8419

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Trade in topic Use of qualifiers

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Archive of Our Own tag
tag for this item on “Archive of Our Own”
[create Create a translatable help page (preferably in English) for this property to be included here]
Distinct values: this property likely contains a value that is different from all other items. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P8419#Unique value, SPARQL (every item), SPARQL (by value)
Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P8419#Entity types
Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as reference (Q54828450): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P8419#Scope, SPARQL
Single value: this property generally contains a single value. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). Known exceptions: Bella Goth (Q6098819)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P8419#Single value, SPARQL
Required qualifier “has characteristic (P1552): this property should be used with the listed qualifier. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P8419#mandatory qualifier, SPARQL
Required qualifier “object has role (P3831): this property should be used with the listed qualifier. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P8419#mandatory qualifier, SPARQL
Label required in languages: en: Entities using this property should have labels in one of the following languages: en (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P8419#Label in 'en' language, search, SPARQL

Link does not work (spaces are replaced by "+") edit

@Shisma: maybe you can help: For some reason the links provided by Archive of Our Own tag (P8419) don't work (spaces are replaced by "+"). Is there something that could be done about this? - Valentina.Anitnelav (talk) 15:57, 19 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

Valentina.Anitnelav: a url must not contain a literal space character ( ). Spaces should be replaced by %20. Some services replace it with + (because it is more readable 🤷). I don't know what software adds the + character here but %20 would work. You should ask the wikidata technical staff. as a workaround you can use %20 in the id. for example: Harry%20Potter--Shisma (talk) 16:35, 19 December 2020 (UTC)Reply
With "%20" it does not work, either[1]... I will report this issue at Wikidata:Contact_the_development_team. - Valentina.Anitnelav (talk) 16:46, 19 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

Use of qualifiers edit

1. Tag Category edit

There are four tag categories tags are sorted into:

Additionally there is

You find the tag category in the tag description ("This tag belongs to the ... Category").

To indicate in which category a tag added to a wikidata item belongs use object has role (P3831) as a qualifier

Examples:

Example 1: Sherlock (Q192837)

Archive of Our Own tag
  Sherlock (TV)
object has role fandom tag ← this tag is categorized as a fandom tag
has characteristic common tag
0 references
add reference


add value


Example 2: 18th century (Q7015)

Archive of Our Own tag
  18th Century CE RPF
object has role fandom tag ← this tag is categorized as a fandom tag
has characteristic common tag
0 references
add reference
  18th century
object has role additional tag ← this tag is categorized as an additional (freeform) tag
has characteristic common tag
0 references
add reference


add value

2. Tag status edit

A tag can have one of three status:

You find the tag status in the tag description ("It's a common tag"/"... has been made a synonym of"/"This tag has not been marked common and can't be filtered on (yet).").

To indicate in which category a tag added to a wikidata item belongs use has characteristic (P1552) as a qualifier

Common tags are the most relevant tags in Wikidata. Please only add synonymous tags if relevant. You should give tags marked as common a preferred rank, especially if there are synonymous tags. Synonymous tags should get a deprecated rank.

Examples:

1. Africa (Q15)

Archive of Our Own tag
  Africa
object has role additional tag
has characteristic common tag ← this tag is a common tag, with preferred rank
0 references
add reference
  Afrika
object has role additional tag
has characteristic synonymous tag ← this tag is categorized as a synonymous tag, with deprecated rank
0 references
add reference


add value

3. How to add relationship tags edit

Don't create items for relationships. Instead, if you want to add a relationship tag, add this tag to all characters involved along with qualifier together with (P1706).

Examples: 1. Sherlock Holmes (Q4653)/Dr. John Watson (Q187349):

At Sherlock Holmes (Q4653) (add the same statement to Dr. John Watson (Q187349) with together with (P1706) Sherlock Holmes (Q4653)):

Archive of Our Own tag
  Sherlock Holmes/John Watson
object has role relationship tag ← this tag is categorized as a relationship tag
has characteristic common tag
together with Dr. John Watson
0 references
add reference


add value

4. Discussion edit

@Trade: Do you have any comments or corrections? - Valentina.Anitnelav (talk) 12:53, 17 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

  • 1: Why did you changed the name of non-canonical tag (Q105264904)?
  • 2: Should we stop making synonymous tag deprecated?
  • 3:We should probably have a rule limiting relationship tags to characters within the same narrative universe.
  • 4: Does an entity having a short name fall under different spelling?
  • 5: Is it relevant to include tne native name of manga and anime characters as synonymous tags (Q112130774#P8419)? I notice some characters have tags for both their English spelling (given name, family name) and Japanese (family name, given name) (Q3816206#P8419) with the former being synonymous.

@Valentina.Anitnelav:--Trade (talk) 02:33, 18 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

@Trade:
  • 1. Mainly because "This tag has not been marked common and can't be filtered on (yet)" is a description, not really a label (it is in my opinion similar to having "It's a common tag. You can use it to filter works and to filter bookmarks." as a label for common tag (Q105265074)). I found the term "non-canonical tag" in the tag search. But I don't insist on it - if you prefer the other label, feel free to change it back.
  • 2. I think the deprecated rank is not the right rank for synonymous tags. Deprecated means that this tag is erroneous or outdated, which is not the case for synonymous tags.
  • 3. Do you want to limit this because there could be too many relationship tags for one character (e.g. 6000+ for Harry Potter (Q3244512))? Maybe we should limit it to the y most frequent relationships or to relationship tags with at least x works.
  • 4. I don't understand this point.
  • 5. To be honest I did not think about what would make a synonymous tag relevant if the canonical tag is also present. I don't mind if people add synonymous tags as long as an item does not end up with too many synonymous tags added. I just don't think that synonymous tags are very useful if the canonical tag is present at the same item. - Valentina.Anitnelav (talk) 12:22, 19 July 2022 (UTC)Reply
  • 2. As far as i can tell we usually deprecate redirect URLs and identifiers and i inferred that synonymous tags filled that function @Valentina.Anitnelav: --Trade (talk) 00:27, 21 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

No problems with your proposal otherwise--Trade (talk) 21:48, 22 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

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