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Latest comment: 2 years ago by Miraclepine in topic Thank you

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Nomen ad hoc (talk) 11:11, 2 July 2019 (UTC).

Retrieved date

Latest comment: 4 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Hi Mirclepine, Among the gadgets in your preferences there is the gadget currentDate which automatically adds today's date in retrieved (P813), which is handy for references. --1Veertje (talk) 11:16, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

@1Veertje: Response is in the thread "DYK about gadgets?". ミラP 11:51, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Q61881525 v. Q89140197

Latest comment: 4 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion

What is up with your changes to the pair Cronman noble family (Q61881525) and Cronman noble family (Q89140197) and some other Swedish noble families? Shouldn't they all appear the same way? Your changes make it harder to distinguish between Cronman noble family (Q61881525) and Cronman noble family (Q89140197). Having the Swedish noble family number in the description distinguishes the two from each other. Also why are you removing family_name=Cronman, it appears to be allowed, and is used across the noble family list. --RAN (talk) 00:02, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

@Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ): Hi. I changed them because I'm planning to add as many Adelsvapen IDs to Wikidata as possible, so I figured that some of the families may need to be separated by Swedish noble family number. I've decided to re-add the number due to the concerns you raised. And as for the family name, I'm not really sure it's usable on the noble families since it tends to generate an "item requires statement constraint" message because families are defined by only a surname as a group. ミラP 00:36, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
Big project! Have fun, it is also a bit confusing because of the overlap between German noble families and the Swedish ones that are the same family at one point in their trees. I am sure once you add more you will figure out the best way to harmonize the data and distinguish similar families. Once again, have fun with it. --RAN (talk) 00:43, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

DYK about gadgets?

Latest comment: 4 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Hey Miraclepine,

Did you know that in gadgets there are the handy extentions currentDate and DuplicateReferences which make it easier to cite references? The first automatically puts the current date as the value for retrieved (P813) and the second lets you copy a reference from one statement to another after you refresh the page.1Veertje (talk) 05:33, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

@1Veertje: I tried them and both work well. ミラP 11:13, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for adding Guggenheim fellow id data and a request

Latest comment: 4 years ago3 comments3 people in discussion

Thanks for adding Guggenheim Fellowship (Q1316544) data to the earth science authors. A request, however, when adding this info, could you add point in time (P585)? Even if you cannot, your efforts are appreciated. Cheers. Trilotat (talk) 13:29, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

thank you for the guggenheim entry. any plans to get around to all 9000? i note that mainly the ones with wikipedia articles are input - i could do them by hand, but any quickstatement help would be appreciated. 104.129.198.94 18:54, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
Sorry, my resources are spread over multiple Wikimedia sites, but thanks for the suggestion. I'll look into it someday. ミラP 19:41, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Wiki of Functions followup

Latest comment: 3 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Hi there, I'm a researcher for the Wikilambda project. Last month we held a naming contest and I'm following up with those who voted to see if you might be willing to provide some feedback to help guide the project.

This would be a 45 minute conversation about your past experience with other Wikimedia projects and thoughts about the future of this new initiative. I'm hoping to gather a wide range of perspectives so I'd be interested in your opinion regardless of whether you plan to have further involvement.

As a way of saying thanks, the research team is offering a $35 gift card (in your local currency) for participation. We could chat by phone or through a website for audio conferencing.

If you're interested just pick a time slot from this calendar link:
https://calendly.com/wikilambda/voter

Hope to hear from you soon!

// jeff (design researcher) (talk) 17:38, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

@JDH264: Sorry, not really interested, but thanks for the offer. ミラP@Miraclepine 17:39, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Why remove "academic" from Q88288371?

Latest comment: 3 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion

I don't understand why you removed occupation: academic from Andrew Amis (Q88288371). The person is an academic, as he teaches and conducts research at a university. academic (Q3400985): person who works as a teacher or researcher at a university or other higher education institution. UWashPrincipalCataloger (talk) 02:43, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

@UWashPrincipalCataloger: Hi. I changed the occupation "academic" to "university teacher" because it is a more specific subclass of the former, thus making the former unnecessary. "academic" is a subclass of "university teacher", who is (obviously) a teacher at a university, which covers the "teaches [...] research at a university" part; and his research (as per the scholarly journals indexed in GScholar) on biomechanics already cover the "conducts research" part, which makes him a subclass of researcher. ミラP@Miraclepine 02:55, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

Ah ok, I hadn't noticed that it was a subclass of academic. We've been using both items in our items for our faculty, but I can see now that that is probably overkill. Thanks. UWashPrincipalCataloger (talk) 06:25, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

of Duffus snafu

Latest comment: 3 years ago4 comments2 people in discussion

@Jheald: Just a note that I think it's all gone a bit Pete Tong in the 'of Duffus' department, possibly b/c The Peerage has conflated the 5th & 6th of Duffus.

We have:

I'm a bit reluctant, right now, to (probably) make the matter worse. I note a merge gives us two peergae IDs here: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q75515472#P4638 ... not sure I follow the logic - Miraclepine, one of yours. --Tagishsimon (talk) 00:28, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

@Tagishsimon: Sorry, I'm a little busy, will reply later. ミラP@Miraclepine 03:22, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
Thx. No rush, or even obligation, to look at the issue. I think I mainly wanted to flag it in case you came across me footling along changing a series of items & wondered what I was up to. --Tagishsimon (talk) 11:15, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
@Tagishsimon: I'm unable to exactly confirm it, but it appears Burke's Peerage 2003 conflated the 5th and 6th's death dates.
Regarding Janet: page 85 and 87 of "Family of Hay" by Charles Jones Colcock states that Janet Sutherland's father was a "William Sutherland of Duffus", but the genealogical chart Alexander Simpson (the 4th Duke of Sutherland's private secretary) provided to the book's author Charles Jones Colcock lists multiple people named "William Sutherland of Duffus": the 5th, the 5th's son (the 6th), and the 6th's son (the 7th), and both pages 85 and 87 are unclear on which William was Janet's father. None of them are listed as having a daughter named Janet in this 1910 book or in The Scots Peerage. It's most likely Robert Douglas omitted the Janet. The claim that the 7th was the same person as William is sourced in thepeerage to an email and in Genealogics to (what appears to be) a user-generated family tree.
I'll provide more details later if possible. ミラP@Miraclepine 18:31, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Adding SpeedSkatingNews.info speed skater ID (P3694): identifier for a speed skater on the SpeedSkatingNews.info website

Latest comment: 2 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion

Hello Miraclepine. Many thanks for adding several SpeedSkatingNews.info IDs to speedskaters. Would you do the same for other speedskating IDs as well for instance:

Best regards Migrant (talk) 00:30, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

@Migrant: Thanks for the offer, but I'm not really interested at this time. I was adding the identifiers to prevent some items from being deleted. ミラP@Miraclepine 00:45, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
Okay, well then thanks again for your speed skating work. Best regards Migrant (talk) 07:36, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

Henry Alcazar

Latest comment: 2 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion

Hi. In your creation of Q108489970 you listed Henry Alcazar as a citizen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, sourcing that fact to "Who's Who". I know Alcazar wasn't a British citizen - he was from Trinidad and Tobago, lived there most of his life, practiced law, sat on the Port of Spain Borough Council, the Legislative Committee, and the Executive Committee. He was a "colonial subject", not a British subject. Bridget Brereton points out that a knighthood was quite rare for someone like him, a "colonial subject who was not either a government official or a judge".

I don't have access to your source, and I was wondering if you could double-check the claim of British citizenship. Thanks very much. Guettarda (talk) 05:33, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

@Guettarda: Thank you for the info. For Property:P27, it's a bit complicated about the way it handles colonial British subjects; someone discussed on the property's talk page something about Australian citizenship still not existing until 1949 even after Australia's 1901 federation.
On one hand, the enwiki article for British subject says that its definition included the colonies before 1949 during his life, therefore including "colonial subjects" and some human items even have British Empire as the citizenship. On the other hand, the American George Washington's item has Great Britain as his citizenship before the Declaration of Independence. Perhaps this document by the Home Office can shed more light on the matter.
Based on my evidence, I'm leaning towards using the British Empire (instead of the colonies British Windward Islands or Colonial Trinidad and Tobago) as the citizenship on the basis of the British subjects definition including colonial subjects. Meanwhile, I just checked the previous source, and have replaced the claim with the better source due to the latter being more clear. ミラP@Miraclepine 16:48, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
@Miraclepine Thanks so much! Guettarda (talk) 17:01, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you

Latest comment: 2 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Thank you for merging duplicate NKC entries. We made a lot of effort to minimize these whenever it was possible robotically. However, I think most of the remaining ones must be assessed by a human... One cannot trust the VIAF clusters for example. Also, not all people born on the same year and having the same name are duplicates. If you think otherwise, please send me examples where it could be assessed systematically by an algorithm :-). We'll definitely continue merging them after the import is done - you will not be alone in this. Vojtěch Dostál (talk) 14:14, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

@Vojtěch Dostál: You're welcome. I normally prioritize mathematicians since the mass import of P549 makes them the most likely to already have an item. I'm also thinking of a mix'n'match-like tool that makes duplicates easier to find. ミラP@Miraclepine 17:03, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
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