@Infovarius:, can you explain, why separate these articles? Most of House of Zhu (Q5185064) must move back to Ming dynasty (Q9903)... --Treisijs (talk) 16:17, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
- May be I'm wrong with my moves, but these items should be separated because some Wikipedias separate them: e.g. en, cs, zh. To my understanding Ming dynasty (Q9903) is about state while House of Zhu (Q5185064) is about family so I moved all sitelinks with "dynasty" in the title to the second as I suppose they are about the family. --Infovarius (talk) 15:11, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
- @Infovarius: I agree, they are two different articles, but... Most of House of Zhu (Q5185064) is about country (empire), not family... In Latvian that is about empire, too. I move Latvian entry to Ming dynasty (Q9903), but you removed it back!?!? Do you understand Latvian? In Latvian that article is about country not family. That article had translated from English Wikipedia article about Ming Dynasty. I look up some another entries, they are also about empire not family. Next time, before you something change some much, please make discussion. I don't find discussion about your changes... In my opinion, all of your changes must restore --Treisijs (talk) 11:47, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
- @Treisijs: Let's discuss. How do you define that House of Zhu (Q5185064) is about country? By sitelinks? But statements say the opposite. And so I've tried to make sitelinks in accordance with statements. --Infovarius (talk) 10:45, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
- @Infovarius: If I understand correctly, House of Zhu (Q5185064) are rulers of Ming dynasty (Q9903). I started to speak about this, because there didn't be correct interwikis in Latvian Wikipedia. There is translation of Myng dynasty (not House of Zhu) in Latvian Wikipedia. There is article about country (empire) in Latvian Wikipedia not rulers (house). My primary target wasn't change interwikis in another languages, but only Latvian. But I saw, in another languages also is about former country. I had send information in some another Wikipedias to ask them to check interwikis. Some of them had move back their articles from House of Zhu (Q5185064) to Ming dynasty (Q9903). See those entries history. I only want to say, need discussion before large changes, like in this case. In my opinion, all your changes need to revert back. --Treisijs (talk) 13:52, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
- @Infovarius: I revert back all of your changes. Next time, before move so much interwikis, please discuss!--Treisijs (talk) 13:46, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
- @Treisijs: So now it's a mess again. Let's at least define the meaning of the items. "House of Zhu (Q5185064) are rulers of Ming dynasty (Q9903)" - I am agree. So House of Zhu (Q5185064) is a family, and Ming dynasty (Q9903) is a country. Please correct sitelinks according to this. --Infovarius (talk) 12:47, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
- @Infovarius: I think, you make mess... I send message to many Wikipedias, and they change back interwikis. See those entries history. Because I revert all of your changes. I don't believe, that you understand so many languages. If some of these languages want another interwikis, then they moved to another entry, not you. --Treisijs (talk) 22:17, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
- Many of these articles have Category:Former countries in Asia (Q7146546) or Template:Infobox former country (Q6036853). Both are about country, not family... --Treisijs (talk) 22:20, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
- @Treisijs: Did you read my message? Can you say "yes" or "no" to my statement about the difference between these 2 items? P.S. I see in the first sentence of lv:Minu dinastija that this is about a family. --Infovarius (talk) 15:34, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
- @Infovarius: If I translate English article en:Ming dynasty in Latvian, how possible that is about en:House of Zhu. In English had wrote: "The Ming dynasty was the ruling dynasty of China for 276 years (1368–1644)". There is same tranlated text in first sentence in Latvian Wikipedia ("Minu dinastija ir dinastija, kura valdīja Ķīnā 276 gadus, no 1368. gada līdz 1644. gadam.") --Treisijs (talk) 07:51, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
- @Treisijs: So they both should be in item about dynasty: not it's Q5185064. --Infovarius (talk) 17:55, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- Looks like the links are seperated enough to mark it as solved. Q.Zanden questions? 00:06, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
- I see a mess. In Q9903 at the moment: 1) most sitelinks are about dynasty; 2) most statements are about state; 3) most uses (backlinks) are about states; 4) it is used as value for P73 (P73). It should be ruled out like I did with Yuan dynasty (Q7313)/imperial house of the Yuan Empire (Q10531418). --Infovarius (talk) 17:55, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
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