Wikidata:Interwiki conflicts/Archive/2013/11

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replace the czech entry in Q935723 with Q13407936 and then assign the redundant entry to Q14089752

Items involved: Q13407936Talk, Q935723Talk, Q14089752Talk Status:     resolved

In czech language Rib vault (Q935723) does not mean Křížová klenba, but Žebrová klenba (Q13407936) which is not assigned anywhere. Křížová klenba should be assigned to Groin vault (Q14089752), which is the correct translation of the word.

X Development (Q133928)/Google X (Q134042)

Items involved: Q133928Talk, Q134042Talk Status:     resolved

The two items are describing the same thing "Google X Lab". The mentioned two items should be merged.

They're not really the same thing, apparently. Pikolas (talk) 14:11, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
clearly different items. No action is needed --Robot Monk (talk) 21:41, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Alagón (Q3607633)/Alagón (Q11904720)

Items involved: Q3607633Talk, Q11904720Talk Status:     resolved

Could please someone merge the two items? They are about the same spanish/catalan family (casada/casata). Let me know in case you need more info.1felco (talk) 12:54, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

  Merged. Thanks. Delsion23 (talk) 10:56, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Mihail Kogălniceanu (Q1077654)/Mihail Kogălniceanu (Q10793719)

Items involved: Q1077654Talk, Q10793719Talk Status:     resolved

there is a problem with characters from the Extended Latin Unicode block, a redirect to nowhere, and a duplicate page at vi: vi:Mihail Kogalniceanu, Constanța (title with a) is a duplicate ghost of vi:Mihail Kogălniceanu, Constanţa (title with ă)

preliminary: see special:Search|search='''{{URLENCODE:Mihail Kogălniceanu}}&limit=500&uselang=en. I can see only four pages with the character ă. No clue how many are in Wikidata (compare with ro:Mihail Kogălniceanu (dezambiguizare)).

Please confirm if the search is faulty. Then some developers should look at it. Keep this unfixed until there is a comment from dev's.

interwiki conflict: Mihail Kogălniceanu (Q1077654) is the main member of the family. It contains a vi: link already. Mihail Kogalniceanu, Constanța (Q10793719) is isolated and has an en: link to nowhere. Please note that Q10793719 is not a REDIRECT. It is a duplicate page which needs to be merged at vi. vi:Mihail Kogalniceanu, Constanța (title with a) is a duplicate ghost of vi:Mihail Kogălniceanu, Constanţa (title with ă). Later one can merge the Wikidata statements and delete Q10793719. Thanks in advance! לערי ריינהארט (talk) 21:12, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

The later only related to vi, so redirect to fixed.--Cheers! (talk) 08:11, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Template:Q3349632/Template:Q941702

Items involved: Q3349632Talk, Q941702Talk Status:     resolved

Sorry, I don't know if this is the right place to ask: I just wanted to connect different language versions and can not save this. I'm sure that the same institution is treated in these versions (incl. the English one). Can anyone solve the problem? Thank you. --Hadi (talk) 16:34, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

I merged them. You can learn about merging at Help:Merge. - Soulkeeper (talk) 18:33, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
Thank you! Now I see that merging here doesn't mean to merge the articles (which I found strange), but to merge the items on Wikidata. The merge-help-page didn't help me to understand that. So I learned something ;-)

Tarshish (Q44826)

Items involved: Q44826Talk Status:     resolved

From talk of this object: "This grouping is a mess. Some of the links correspond to disambiguity pages while other correspond to articles about one city (or place)." The description in German says that this is a disambiguation page, English description tells you that this is a biblic place and French description is talking about a person. --Zuphilip (talk) 17:20, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

fictional character (Q95074)/literary character (Q15142397)

Items involved: Q95074Talk, Q15142397Talk Status:     resolved

I posted also a note at de:talk:Literarische Figur
When ariving at de:Literarische Figur no link to Wikidata was available at the bottom of the "other languages" List. Then I created literary character (Q15142397). Now "Links bearbeiten" (edit Wikidata links) is available. Please note that fictional character (Q95074) is linked to de:Figur (Fiktion) (a different de.Wikipedia page). לערי ריינהארט (talk) 05:56, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

Silbermann familly

Items involved: Q13415049Talk, Q2285832Talk Status:     resolved

The conflict is between the french Q13415049 and the german Q2285832 Wikipedia. I don't know how to merge them. It's too complicated for me. If I understood correctly, this place was created for this purpose: make a list of the conflicts! 2003:66:EE0D:3293:52F:2C7D:A1BA:201B 17:43, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

  Merged --Pasleim (talk) 18:29, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

Bimarestan (Q1293141)/Bimarestan (Q12200720)

Items involved: Q1293141Talk, Q12200720Talk Status:     resolved

Arabic article has not been linked to other languages.

Merged. Aurora (talk) 14:56, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

cayenne pepper

Items involved: Q6598Talk, Q1051958Talk Status:     resolved

Please make statements which show the difference --Infovarius (talk) 19:08, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

Universe (Q1)/Earth (Q2)

Items involved: Q6625355Talk, Q6103344Talk Status:     resolved

Tr article not linked to En and Ar

Universe (Q1)/Earth (Q2)

Items involved: Q6417674Talk, Q12187915Talk Status:     resolved

Ar article not linked to other two

Category:Musical instrument parts and accessories (Q7490453)/Category:Musical instrument parts and accessories (Q7714980)

Items involved: Q7490453Talk, Q7714980Talk Status:     resolved

To be merged. --Z-ultimus (talk) 21:10, 13 November 2013 (UTC)


Advocate/lawyer

Topic: advocate Items involved: Q185351Talk, Q40348Talk, Q6363085Talk, Q808967Talk Status:     resolved

In some languages "advocate" means different things. At least ru:Адвокат != en:Lawyer (more appropriate would be ru:Юрист). Infovarius (talk) 06:24, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

You are spot on, Infovarius, but it will be very difficult explaining everyone that en:Lawyer belongs with Q40348.
In English, {en:Solicitor and en:Barrister} are subclasses of en:Lawyer, which is a subclass of en:Jurist.
You make the changes, and I will help reverting others, who will revert you? Littledogboy (talk) 17:57, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
"it will be very difficult explaining everyone that en:Lawyer belongs with Q40348" - it seems that someone find it natural. But it's weird that Адвокат makes no Адвокатура. Littledogboy, please be more specific and tell about (in)consistencies. Infovarius (talk) 04:08, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

It really is a messy, messy issue:

Q185351 en:Legal profession (právník in Czech, jurista in Spanish, prawnik/jurysta in Polish) splits into:

  1. Q16533 en:Judge
  2. Q40348 en:Lawyer or attorney in the USA and Canada – someone registered to give legal advice and legal representation in court. Advokát in Czech, abogado in Spanish... Advocate in Scotland, South Africa, India. In the UK (and some Commonwealth countries), this is split into two distinct professions:
  3. Q2664701 en:Jurist – a professor of law at the university.... etc...

Littledogboy (talk) 15:09, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

I suppose that ru:Адвокат falls into 3th case. Infovarius (talk) 16:51, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
I have organized the English terms, see Qs above. Could you please check Russian and Ukrainian now? And German, anyone?

Also, I have feeling es:Procurador de los tribunales and fr:Juriste d'entreprise en France may not be where they belong? Littledogboy (talk) 12:23, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Done that too. Littledogboy (talk) 19:06, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Q945532/Q1795231 Oxide minerals

Items involved: Q945532Talk, Q1795231Talk Status:     resolved

I guess that these two items should be merged, but I am no expert chemistry. Is someone supporting the merge? By the way the English description of the first one is irritating me. --Zuphilip (talk) 19:17, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

I don't think they should be merged. Q1795231 is about metal oxides as simple chemical compounds, Q945532 is specifically about minerals containing metal oxides. --Joostik (talk) 20:01, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
Now, I think also they should not be merged, since minerals =/= metalics. But do you understand what is the subject of Q945532? I viewed some wiki-pages connected to Q928461 = "Nickel–Strunz classification" for example the German one. Is Q945532 containing oxides and hydroxids (as in Hungarian page) or only the oxides (but then where is the hydroxid page in en-wiki)? --Zuphilip (talk) 10:35, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
en:Nickel–Strunz classification: "4. oxides, hydroxides and arsenites", so, yes, a wider classification. --Joostik (talk) 13:23, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
I added a German label and description as well as some statements in the two entities. Q1795231 seems fine for me and in Q945532 I suggest to reconsider the English and Spanish labels and maybe also the title on the wiki-pages. The class contains oxides and hydroxides, which is also mentioned on the wiki-pages. --Zuphilip (talk) 10:39, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Ars Poetica (Q677997), poétique (Q9160460), Q777951 et al

Items involved: Q677997Talk, Q9160460Talk, Q777951Talk Status:     resolved

I think I've already split up Q677997 (Latin term "Ars Poetica"), Q3437718 (Horace's poem by the same name) and Q703985 (disambiguation "Ars Poetica") correctly, though a third party check would be appreciated, and I didn't take care of any labels/descriptions and possible local interwiki links yet. I'm not sure though whether Q9160460 (pl:Artes poeticae) should be merged into Q677997 (the term), and even with using Google Translate I have no idea what Q777951 (hu:Ars poetica Erdélyben) is about (the term, also?). And I'm not sure where to put the linre between the term and Q835023 (poetry in general), so this might also be a merge recipient candidate for some of the mentioned articles. --YMS (talk) 16:17, 4 September 2013 (UTC) PS: I missed to mention Q14821345, which I created for Krzysztof Kamil Baczyński's poem of the same name. It was previously linked to the term, but should not be in conflict with anything now. --YMS (talk) 16:20, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Q9160460 (pl:Artes poeticae) is about "ars poetica" as a genre (a book describing the rules of poetry. I have moved fr:Art poétique to there, and that seems fine. I feel that en:Ars Poestica should be rewritten so that it also becomes about a concept rather than a term but given its current content, I guess it makes sense to keep Q677997 and Q9160460 separated. I am not clear about Q777951 (hu:Ars poetica Erdélyben) either, my guess is that it is about a Hungarian literary movement of the 20th century, but in any case, it is certainly a separate item. --Zolo (talk) 19:35, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

gulf (Q1322134)

Items involved: Q1322134Talk Status:     resolved

The en-wikipage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_gulfs is a list, where the de-wikipage https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golf_(Meer) is an article. This leads to the strange statement that gulf (Q1322134) instance of (P31) Wikimedia list article (Q13406463). How can we resolve that conflict? --Zuphilip (talk) 18:05, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

moved the lists to list of gulfs (Q15260324). --Robot Monk (talk) 11:14, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Template:Arrondissements of Paris

Items involved: Q4874Talk, Q13583257Talk Status:     resolved

--Ricordisamoa 14:34, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

one is for imagemaps, the other for navigational boxes. --Robot Monk (talk) 11:22, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Mytiloida (Q14375861)/Mytiloida (Q1440794)

Items involved: Q14375861Talk, Q1440794Talk Status:     resolved

Merged by someone. Littledogboy (talk) 18:15, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

compost (Q212254)/composting (Q13222335)

Items involved: Q212254Talk, Q13222335Talk Status:     resolved

Compost exists twice in Q212254 and Q13222335 while there should be only one item.

I've fixed labels and descriptions. One item is about the biological process, the other is about the outcome of this process. --Robot Monk (talk) 18:38, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Category:Noindexed pages (Q4989245)

Items involved: Q4989245Talk Status:     resolved

For what it's worth, I can't read the language, but it appears from mdf:Категорие:Noindexed pages and mdf:Категорие:↓Индексфтома лопатне that __NOINDEX__ tags on that wiki point to one of two different pages. Not quite sure what's going on. It Is Me Here t / c 00:33, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

I suppose that after translating MediaWiki message standard name (1st) was changed to localized one (2nd). So the first empty category can be removed. Infovarius (talk) 18:17, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Wrench/Monkey Wrench

Items involved: Q154411Talk, Q356776Talk Status:     resolved

Hi, I can't add the NL page "Moersleutel" to the EN "Monkey wrench" page. The Dutch page where Moersleutel redirects to discusses more types of tools in 1 go, hence for interwiki purposes it should allow for more than 1 "translation". Btw, I don't know if you know already but I have no idea how this template should work. The code produced really did not have any clues for those unfamiliar with wikiing.

  Done, although Wikidata isn't really about translation of words! It is about linking mutually articles about the same concept. Littledogboy (talk) 18:28, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Stolte (Q7618682)/Stolte (Q2351390)

Items involved: Q7618682Talk, Q2351390Talk Status:     resolved

Aziminu (Q978405)/Aziminu (Q3631474)

Items involved: Q978405Talk, Q3631474Talk Status:     resolved

Could please someone merge the two articles? They are about the same thing. Thanks1felco (talk) 11:50, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

  Done --Zuphilip (talk) 12:28, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Pantherophis spiloides (Q5598224)/Pantherophis spiloides (Q2998811)

Items involved: Q5598224Talk, Q2998811Talk Status:     resolved

Same species at enwiki and frwiki. I don't understand how Wikidata works, so I'll just leave a note here. 88.148.249.186 17:53, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Thunnus (Q2346039)/Thunnini (Q6146274)

Items involved: Q2346039Talk, Q6146274Talk Status:     resolved

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunfisch should be linked from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuna but there is an error because of https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2346039 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunnus cannot two English pages link to the same German page ? (by "link" I mean the language list on the left !)

the two items describe different taxons. Thunfisch is also linked properly. --Robot Monk (talk) 08:35, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

ponor (Q11113875)/ponor (Q847016)

Items involved: Q11113875Talk, Q847016Talk Status:     resolved

Q847016 - ponor in all languages, only in Spanish there is Sumidero.

Q11113875 - ponor in Spanish.

I want to put ponor instead of sumidero, but I don't know how. The old system of interlanguage links was much easier to correct.

No label and Marshalling

Items involved: Q719061Talk, Q2904087Talk Status:     resolved

Is same thing, is about quartering in heraldry. Should be merged into one. Ercsaba74 (talk) 16:34, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Well spotted! Littledogboy (talk) 18:11, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Persarmenia (Q2071857)/Adiabene (Q149747)

Items involved: Q2071857Talk, Q149747Talk Status:     resolved

The two wikidata pages seem to be fine. Nevertheless if, being in Deutsch or Suomi Persarmenia Wiki page, you place the mouse above English page link, tooltip text will show Adiabene and, by clicking, you'll get Adiabene English page, which is incorrect. You should have been shown Nor Shirakan English page. If you do the same from the Italian page you'll get the Nor Shirakan English page but only through redirection from Nor-Shirakan, which again is not entirely correct, given that Q2071857 page states for English 'Nor Shirakan' not 'Nor-Shirakan'.

Another thing. In Persarmenia pages, whatever the language, Suomi link is never in its proper alphabetical place. Carlotm (talk) 19:39, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

That is because there are old interwikis in the pages. You can probably delete them. Littledogboy (talk) 18:05, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
Thanks Littledogboy. I didn't realize these little bandits were still around. Carlotm (talk) 04:38, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

Q5213447/Q1658585

Items involved: Q5213447Talk, Q1658585Talk Status:     resolved

Can't change interwiki link from ru:Илья to en:Ilya, that is correct.

Site link Ilya is already used by item Q5213447. Perhaps the items should be merged and one of them deleted? Request deletion of one of the items at Wikidata:Requests for deletion, or ask at Wikidata:Interwiki conflicts if you believe that they should not be merged. --IlyaMart (talk) 21:14, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

The linked dewiki page is no disambiguation page. There is also the statement instance of (P31) given name (Q202444) from ruwiki which may indicate that the linked pages are not always disambiguation pages. Moreover, I am not sure if a merge of the two items would go with the Wikidata:Requests_for_comment/Disambiguation_pages_guidelines. --Zuphilip (talk) 18:43, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Category:Cities (Q5460731)/Category:Cities (Q9126476)

Items involved: Q5460731Talk, Q9126476Talk Status:     resolved

Are they the same thing? Conflicts happens in de, bar, tpi, but I think tpi:Grup:Ol siti na taun can be relinked to Category:Populated places (Q5624766).--GZWDer (talk) 15:46, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

Category:Cities (Q5460731)@de = Ort = place, location (eng.) but Category:Cities (Q9126476)@de = Stadt = city (eng.) --Zuphilip (talk) 21:43, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
there is also Category:Populated places (Q5624766) and Category:City (Q6581398) --Robot Monk (talk) 09:26, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

This is the basic hierarchy I will start with:

The item Category:Cities (Q5460731) seems to be mostly a mix of settlements and cities. I will try to sort them into the items above. --Robot Monk (talk) 10:11, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

vinaigrette (Q847441)/ru:Винегретная заправка

Items involved: Q847441Talk Status:     resolved

vinaigrette sauce vs russian salad (also called vinaigrette ru:Винегретная заправка). The second is not yet on wikidata

  Resolved created another item for the salad: Vinegret (Q15220576) --Robot Monk (talk) 09:17, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

mobile device / 'Handheld'

Items involved: Q5082128Talk, Q13222173Talk Status:     resolved

This is my first report so please excuse any flaws. dewiki has a redirect for de:Mobile_Device to de:Handheld. So I do believe they are identical but there's also es:Handheld and es:Mobile_Device as separate articles … --Stadlerpeter (talk) 10:12, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

the redirect on dewiki was wrong, it should be w:de:Mobilgerät. A handheld is defined there as a subtype of mobil devices, whith includes bigger diveces like laptops, so the item for handheld is ok. --Robot Monk (talk) 11:11, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

PowerBook G3 (Q621319)/PowerBook G3 Kanga (Q3738901)

Items involved: Q621319Talk, Q3738901Talk Status:     resolved

administrative territorial entity of Botswana (Q15063032)/district of Botswana (Q57368)

Items involved: Q15063032Talk, Q57368Talk Status:     resolved

prefecture of Japan (Q50337)/prefecture of Japan (Q15058725)

Items involved: Q50337Talk, Q15058725Talk Status:     resolved

administrative territorial entity of Kazakhstan (Q15072596)/region of Kazakhstan (Q836672)

Items involved: Q15072596Talk, Q836672Talk Status:     resolved

district of Lesotho (Q844531)/administrative territorial entity of Lesotho (Q2878104)

Items involved: Q844531Talk, Q2878104Talk Status:     resolved

administrative territorial entity of Nigeria (Q15058775)/state of Nigeria (Q465842)

Items involved: Q15058775Talk, Q465842Talk Status:     resolved

district of Seychelles (Q1149621)/administrative territorial entity of Seychelles (Q5937006)

Items involved: Q1149621Talk, Q5937006Talk Status:     resolved

administrative territorial entity of El Salvador (Q15126920)/department of El Salvador (Q475214)

Items involved: Q15126920Talk, Q475214Talk Status:     resolved

region of Eswatini (Q1069042)/administrative territorial entity of Eswatini (Q2715909)

Items involved: Q1069042Talk, Q2715909Talk Status:     resolved

region of Uzbekistan (Q842420)/administrative territorial entity of Uzbekistan (Q7631083)

Items involved: Q842420Talk, Q7631083Talk Status:     resolved

Category:Comic book publishing companies of Poland (Q8391865)/Category:Comic book publishing companies of Poland (Q9655054)

Items involved: Q8391865Talk, Q9655054Talk Status:     resolved

Separate item for Polish and other. To merge

Best regards, Godai (talk) 13:27, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

  Done --Zuphilip (talk) 13:44, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Category:Sciaenidae (Q7150208)/Category:Sciaenidae by scientific name (Q9115871)

Items involved: Q7150208Talk, Q9115871Talk Status:     resolved

conflict in de.--GZWDer (talk) 05:32, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

resolved --Robot Monk (talk) 09:30, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Mingxin baojian and 명심보감

Items involved: Q6864853Talk, Q11240574Talk Status:     resolved

Mingxin baojian and 명심보감 describe the same literary work, written in classical Korean as "明心寶鑑" and in classical Chinese as "明心寶鑑". I do not have the experience necessary to merge these. 165.132.24.185

  Merged. Littledogboy (talk) 02:36, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

rib vault (Q13407936)/rib vault (Q935723)/groin vault (Q14089752)

Items involved: Q13407936Talk, Q935723Talk, Q14089752Talk Status:     resolved

In czech language Rib vault (Q935723) does not mean Křížová klenba, but Žebrová klenba (Q13407936) which is not assigned anywhere. Křížová klenba should be assigned to Groin vault (Q14089752), which is the correct translation of the word.

So replace the czech entry in Q935723 with Q13407936 and then assign the redundant entry to Q14089752.

resolved --Robot Monk (talk) 08:58, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Carnabon (Q12878495)/Carnabon (Q5086543)

Items involved: Q12878495Talk, Q5086543Talk Status:     resolved

It's about the same mythological person , I tried to add the greek page to Q5086543 but because of the existence of Q12878495 I can't, and I don't know how to resolve this.--Geilamir (talk) 05:07, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

  Merged --Robot Monk (talk) 08:37, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

A Cure for Pokeritis (Q7446282)/A Cure for Pokeritis (Q2635969)

Items involved: Q7446282Talk, Q2635969Talk Status:     resolved

Both for the silent short A Cure for Pokeritis. I'm just a .en editor, and not particularly familiar with Wikidata's workings or which of these should take precedence, so I'd rather not try merging this myself only to botch things and make a bigger mess. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 18:21, 27 November 2013 (UTC)   Done merged in A Cure for Pokeritis (Q2635969) --ValterVB (talk) 18:49, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

photo agency (Q10429542)/photo agency (Q860572)

Items involved: Q10429542Talk, Q860572Talk Status:     resolved

Category:Ship classes of the Spanish Navy (Q15136588)/Category:Ship classes of the Spanish Navy (Q9021938)

Items involved: Q15136588Talk, Q9021938Talk Status:     resolved

convention center (Q1378975)/convention center (Q1781596)

Items involved: Q1378975Talk, Q1781596Talk Status:     resolved

Congrescentrum (nl-wiki) is best linked to Convention center on the en-wiki. In fact, I just linked the two in categories on Q7154775. The German article should move with it, I think. Thanks, Sander1453 (talk) 11:37, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Merged by GZWDer (flood). --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 03:06, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

region of Guinea (Q1067116)/region of Guinea (Q9053044)

Items involved: Q1067116Talk, Q9053044Talk Status:     resolved

  merged the items. Q.Zanden questions? 23:49, 24 November 2016 (UTC)