Wikidata:Property proposal/Hungarian National Namespace person ID (new)

Hungarian National Namespace person ID (new)

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control

   Done: Hungarian National Namespace person ID (new) (P11621) (Talk and documentation)

Description	identifier for a person in the Hungarian National Namespace
Represents	Hungarian National Namespace (Q64076372)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	item
Allowed values	numbers
Example 1	Lajos Kossuth (Q157040) -> 664426
Example 2	Stephen I of Hungary (Q177903) -> 657690
Example 3	Ignaz Semmelweis (Q59736) -> 669231
Example 4	Viktor Orbán (Q57641) -> 644572
Expected completeness	eventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URL	https://magyarnemzetinevter.hu/person/$1/
See also	P?????, Hungarian National Namespace person ID (old) (P6988)
Wikidata project	WikiProject Hungary (Q8406096)

Motivation

A Hungarian National Namespace person ID (old) (P6988) linkjei már nem működnek, mert az egyedi azonosítók megváltoztak. Ez a javaslat az új URL-címekre mutató hivatkozás biztosítását javasolja.

The Hungarian National Namespace person ID (old) (P6988) links no longer work because the unique IDs have changed. This suggestion suggests providing a link to the new URLs. Pallor (talk) 17:14, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

--Meskobalazs (talk) 15:45, 22 April 2017 (UTC) --Tobias1984 (talk) 15:51, 22 April 2017 (UTC) Samat (talk) 18:08, 25 April 2017 (UTC) tdombos (talk) 16:19, 13 August 2019 (UTC) Pallor (talk) 10:20, 22 December 2019 (UTC) Tacsipacsi (talk) 23:03, 14 October 2020 (UTC) LaMèreVeille. January 2021

Notified participants of WikiProject Hungary Pallor (talk) 17:14, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

Discussion

•  Strong support -- Blua lago(let's have a chat y'all) 17:59, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support – Máté (talk) 18:08, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support - --Bizottmány (talk) 20:05, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support I don’t think there’s much to discuss about it: there was already a consensus to create a property for this identifier, this new proposal is purely technical (due to the numbering change). —Tacsipacsi (talk) 00:10, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support - --Gbarta (talk) 09:33, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support - does this mean in practice that the old IDs will need to replaced by the new ones and then the old property will be deleted? (in Hungarian: a gyakorlatban ez azt fogja jelenteni, hogy az összes régi azonosítót le kell cserélni az újra, és utána törölni a régi tulajdonságot?) -- Tdombos (talk) 14:08, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

  I don’t think so. For rationale, see Tgr’s comment. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 00:19, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

  Yes, I agree. It makes a lot of sense to maintain a database of old and new IDs. There should be some propety set on the old property that stores in a machine-readable way that the identifier is deprecated. -- Tdombos (talk) 11:51, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

 Done, created. Bencemac (talk) 14:16, 24 February 2023 (UTC)