Wikidata talk:Lexicographical data/Archive/2021/09

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Thank you page for data donators?

Hi, I recently asked a bunch of website owners to release their Yiddish proverbs as CC0 so we can import them. One asked if we can list the donation somewhere and link back to their site? Do we have a page like that? OSM has a quite prominent one here and another here.--So9q (talk) 16:08, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

@So9q: I thought (wrongly) that such a page existed but all I could find is Wikidata:Data_donation#Organisations_who_have_worked_with_Wikidata. @LydiaPintscher: you created this page, does it ring a bell? A gln, VIGNERON (talk) 06:38, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Hehe yes. But that is our landing page for anyone who wants to give us data so I would very much discourage making it a laundry list of every organisation who ever gave us data :D --LydiaPintscher (talk) 16:33, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Ok, I agree we should put mentions of smaller donations somewhere else and then link to it. What about a subpage titled "List of all data donations"?--So9q (talk) 04:58, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

Multiword "nouns" for species

I am unsure how one should best record multiword "nouns" for species, e.g., killer whale (L42998) I see the lexical category set to noun (Q1084), while I have set grøn kølleguldsmed (L590625) (that consists of one adjective (Q34698) and one noun (Q1084)) to noun phrase (Q1401131) (I am unsure what difference there are to nominal locution (Q29888377)). For combines lexemes (P5238) how should we record that there is a whitespace between the words? — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 16:22, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

@Fnielsen: I'd say "noun phrase" is fine for such words, although correcting uses of "noun" for them isn't absolutely necessary if the lexeme in question can't have its parts split when it is used. As for the whitespace issue, we could introduce a convention in the series ordinal (P1545) values where e.g. "1" and "2" refer to separate words, while "3.1" and "3.2" refer to parts of a single word. Mahir256 (talk) 16:32, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

Isn't noun phrase (Q1401131) more how the lexeme is constructed rather than it's actual lexical category? I mean, no matter how it's constructed and where it comes from, it acts as a noun, no? Not sure for the theory but pragmatically at least, for instance for constraints and schema/lexical mask, I guess sticking with only a few and basic lexical categories would be better. noun phrase (Q1401131) is interresting and useful but it should go elsewhere (maybe instance of (P31) ? or a more specific property ?). Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 18:39, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

I believe that lexical category should be phrase (Q187931) (or phraseme (Q5551966), word combination (Q1774041)?). --Infovarius (talk) 13:50, 13 September 2021 (UTC)