Property talk:P3602
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election where the subject is a candidate
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P3602#Value type Q40231, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P3602#allowed qualifiers, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P3602#Entity types
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P3602#Scope, SPARQL
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People who got elected in an election, but don't have the candidacy in election (P3602) statement for the election (Help)
Violations query:
SELECT DISTINCT ?item ?election WHERE { ?item p:P39 ?positionstatement . ?positionstatement pq:P2715 ?election . MINUS { ?item wdt:P3602 ?election } }
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P3602#Elected, but not a candidate
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Percent received? edit
Could there be a qualifier to get the percent received, or a qualifier to store the total number of votes in the election to figure it out? Then infoboxes on Wikipedia could actually use this property. DemonDays64 | Talk to me 14:07, 5 August 2020 (UTC) (please ping on reply)
- DemonDays64 So I found this discussion. While the reasoning isn't entirely wrong, the current situation is rather annoying. In my jurisdiction (Germany) the total number of votes is a rather meaningless number.
- For an election I just looked up, the first six hits on Google give results in percentages only. Even the official results include totals only as a footnote.
- To then get to the meaningful percentage requires the total number of valid votes. But that number isn't among the allowed qualifiers here. You better hope there is an item for the election itself that includes it. Which is unlikely for most elections to parliament, where each local district constitutes an individual race. Example:
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- Adding totals as a a qualifier next to votes received fixes the acute problem. But that data is needed for every candidate, and the data will therefore be duplicated.
- A datatype for fractions that preserves entered denominators as-is would be ideal in this case. Unfortunately, that does not currently exist.
- The objection to the proposal above was that percentages can easily be calculated froj totals. Even ignoring how "easy" that may or may not be (and Wikipedia apparently not allowing it with the same ease vas just retrieving a value, the same argument can be mde in reverse: given a total and percentage, I can also calculate individual votes. I may be off by a few votes due to floating point math and I can understand how that seems more irritating for absolute data (compared to percentages, where everyone assumes it is rounded). But giving readers what they are far more likely to be looking instead of a treasure hunt + math quiz should outweigh that concern.
- So I'd currently favor adding percentages. If people consider the duplication of data to be a problem, it should replace vote totals.
Office contested? edit
If I want to say someone is a candidate in a primary, how can I specify which office it was for? office contested (P541) isn't allowed. DemonDays64 | Talk to me 14:14, 5 August 2020 (UTC) (please ping on reply)
If a politician runs in a primary or election but doesn't win should they still have this property? edit
For example, should Bernie Sanders (Q359442) have "candidacy in election" statements for the 2016 and 2020 Democratic Primaries? Ditto for all the other politicians who ran in 2020. Nicereddy (talk) 16:18, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
- Why not? --- Jura 16:34, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
- Nicereddy See the discussion on Talk:Q22923830, where I went five rounds with Jura on the issue before giving up. --Matthias Winkelmann (talk) 01:03, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
allowed qualifiers constraint edit
The allowed qualifiers constraint (Q21510851) currently includes results (P2501) however if you use that with one of the typical election results unelected (Q62082492) or elected (Q20826785) you get the value type constraint error that values of results statements should be instances of race result (Q54933017). Either the constraints for results (P2501) should be changed or a more appropriate property added to record the result of the persons candidacy. --Find bruce (talk) 01:40, 12 March 2021 (UTC) Done