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Thanks. --AVRS (talk) 11:19, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Property:P461 "opposite of"Edit

The above property is now available and can be used on items. I noticed you first proposed its creation. --  Docu  at 09:38, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for creating and notifying! --AVRS (talk) 09:43, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Q388 (Linux)Edit

Hi! It looks like you prefer three items for Linux: (1)kernel (2)kernel+GNU(tools) (3)kernel without GNU(tools). This has lead to some inconsistency with sitelinks. Could you please join the discussion at Wikidata:Project_chat#3_Items_for_Linux to resolve this. -- Make (talk) 12:22, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

"Bot adding empty [fr] label ->"Edit

Hi. Maybe the word "missing" would work better than "empty". --AVRS (talk) 09:51, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice. --Thieol (talk) 21:05, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

Bonvenon al Wikidata!Edit

Saluton kaj bonvenon al Wikidata! Bv. noti Diskutejo#kie_komenci kaj Diskutejo#invitoj. Amike salutas לערי ריינהארט (talk) 16:34, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Vi pravas AVRS. Dankon pro la reago. Mi ekde oktobro cxijare faris pli ol 15.000 sxangxojn. Enestas amaso da pagxoj nur ligataj al Vikipedio sen ajna deklaro. Krome necesus konsenti pri la uzo de malgrandaj komencaj literoj kongrue kun la uzo en Esperanto. Jam estas ege malfrue. Mi hodiaux cxefe pritraktis la por mi necesajn aldonojn de Wikidata (properties). Krom Esperanto mi okupigxas pri auxtoroj / verkistoj uzantajn la rumanan, la jidan, la germanan ktp. lingvojn. Gxis baldaux! Amike לערי ריינהארט (talk) 03:15, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Rilate al user:AVRS/common.js. Bv. noti helpeton cxe User:Rotsaert8000. Antauxdankon! Kun amikaj salutoj el Munkeno לערי ריינהארט (talk) 19:08, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

The Lady with the Dog (Q2418554)Edit

Hello! The Lady with the Dog (Q2418554) describes Chekhov's short story, not the translation by Constance Garnett. So s:en:The Lady with the Dog should be linked with a separate Q-item. E.g. Q15692888 by Heinrich Heine (Q44403) has seven Russian transaltions and each transaltion has separate Q-item:

  1. Q15693288 by Mikhail Katkov (Q441628), 1839
  2. Q15693261 by Aleksey Pleshcheyev (Q600678), 1846
  3. Q15693093 by Apollon Maykov (Q2419891), 1857
  4. Q15693059 by Mikhail Larionovitch Mikhailov (Q2468579), 1859
  5. Q15693309 by Lev Mei (Q2717801), 1859
  6. Q15693230 by Nikolay Dobrolyubov (Q311459), 1862
  7. Q15692913 by Alexander Blok (Q164765), 1910

I revert you edit. -- Sergey kudryavtsev (talk) 13:34, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

PS: (Не заметил, что вы русским владеете. ;-) В некоторых случаях можно связать элемент Викиданных со страницей, где перечислены переводы одного произведения, например, The Bet (Q394247) связан с s:en:The Bet, но это редко бывает. -- Sergey kudryavtsev (talk) 13:44, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

Connecting GNU/Linux and LinuxEdit

Hello, I found this comment of yours while trying to solve the horrible interwiki fragmentation of two items that clearly talk about the same subject, namely "GNU/Linux" and "Linux".

Is there anything I should know before manually adding all the missing "language:Linux" links to "GNU/Linux"? Should this be fixed somewhere else? Thanks. --Isacdaavid (talk) 00:14, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

They cannot and should not be merged: check the articles in Linux (Q388) in the languages linked in GNU/Linux (Q3251801). E.g., Danish, French, Japanese have separate articles explicitly about GNU/Linux. IIRC, some people who oppose the "GNU/" part oppose also the significance and necessity of GNU for Linux to be Linux, so they agree that not all Linux is GNU/Linux.
If there was only one item for both "GNU/Linux" and "Linux" articles, there would be a constant edit war about whether it belongs to GNU (Q44571), and whether Android (Q94) belongs to it, with all of its participants being right.
--AVRS (talk) 15:24, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
I am not proposing merging them into a single category, I'm well aware of the issues and controversies. What I meant was relaxing both items so that "Linux" articles on all wikis show inter-wiki (multilingual) links to "Linux" as well as "GNU/Linux" articles, and vice versa. For instance, Linux (Q388) already contains an inter-wiki link to lv:GNU/Linux . --Isacdaavid (talk) 02:35, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
lv:GNU/Linux is only in Linux (Q388); I guess Treisijs (talkcontribslogs) reverted the move to GNU/Linux (Q3251801) thinking of interwikis.
An item cannot have links to multiple articles in one language, but I think it can link to sections. Also, articles can have old-style links in them.
--AVRS (talk) 11:46, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
An item cannot have links to multiple articles in one language
Sure, what about just adding links for the languages that are missing. As it stands now a reader of en:Linux won't see a link to the Spanish-language Wikipedia because it only contains an article about es:GNU/Linux and another for es:Linux (kernel) but none for Linux as a family of Linux-including operating systems. Similarly, readers of es:GNU/Linux will barely see any links to other Wikipedias, namely only to the ones with non-redirect pages about GNU/Linux.
articles can have old-style links in them
I see some of the involved articles already do this, like gl:GNU/Linux . We can avoid polluting Wikidata this way, I think I want to go with this solution. Would you recommend? --Isacdaavid (talk) 16:59, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
In Latvian article GNU/Linux has been written to be based on English article Linux. Probably we (in Latvian Wikipedia) need to move this article from GNU/Linux to Linux. I start discussion about that. Nobody reply to me. That I check content of Latvian article and that was basically direct translation of English article about Linux. --Treisijs (talk) 08:14, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Please use relative (P1038) instead of instance of (P31)Edit

Like in here --Andreasm háblame / just talk to me 16:46, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

Laguna - Lagoon - LakeEdit

Hi,

I usually edit in the Wikipedia of spanish idiom (I'ḿ argentine). Years ago, it was easy for me to link a spanish article with other article in another idiom. But I see that now has changed and I don't know how to do it.

I try to change the link between "laguna" and "lagoon" because they are diferent in the meaning: "Laguna" is like a shallow lake, but "lagoon" is another thing. So, I thought in linking the word "laguna" with "pond" or with "lake".

How I have to do for doing a change between two articles in different Wikipedias?

Thanks,

--Roberto Fiadone (talk) 21:47, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

@Roberto Fiadone:
Hm…
en:Pond says "A pond is a body of standing water, either natural or artificial, that is usually smaller than a lake."
es:Laguna says "Una laguna es un depósito natural de agua que está separado del mar y es de menores dimensiones —sobre todo en profundidad— que un lago, pudiendo sus aguas ser tanto dulces como salobres, y hasta saladas."
es:Estanque says: "Un estanque es una pequeña cavidad de agua, natural o artificial, utilizado cotidianamente para proveer al riego, criar peces, nadar, etcétera, o con fines meramente ornamentales.", "Los estanques forman …, si son de agua salada y comunican con el mar."
ru:Пруд says: "Пруд — искусственный водоём для хранения воды с целью водоснабжения, орошения, разведения рыбы (прудовое рыбное хозяйство) и водоплавающей птицы, а также для санитарных, противопожарных и спортивных потребностей. Искусственные водоёмы площадью не более 1 кв.км принято называть прудами[1]."
So:
Article natural or artificial standing/sea size usage mentioned
en:Pond natural/artificial standing smaller than a lake
es:Laguna natural separated from sea smaller/shallower than a lake
es:Estanque natural/artificial can communicate with the sea usage and law
ru:Пруд artificial (maybe natural colloquially) <= 1 km² usage (artificial!)
They all seem to be different things, so in Wikidata, they should have different items (although a class item could hold the interwikis, if such an item is possible). One could put :es:Laguna to pond (Q3253281) instead of :es:Estanque, but "Estanque" is natural, while Russian "пруд" is artificial. --AVRS (talk) 10:31, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
I replaced es:laguna with es:lagoon in lagoon (Q187223) (the editor is at the bottom). es:laguna has no interwikis now. --AVRS (talk) 10:38, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
Thanks...
--Roberto Fiadone (talk) 04:01, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

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вымышленная лошадьEdit

Что подразумевалось в fictional equine (Q27303980) и чем оно отличается от fictional horse (Q2962925)? --Infovarius (talk) 11:08, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Род Equus включает ослов: w:ru:Лошади#Современные лошади. [1] --AVRS (talk) 11:21, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
Ах, род. Ну и зачем вы такую подробную таксономию вымышленных существ затеяли? Как вы определяете, к какому именно виду относится та или иная фантазия? Пегас - лошадь или Equus? А единорог? А фестралы? --Infovarius (talk) 12:27, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
Из enwiki скопировал вместе со всем (Equidae там не было; я только хотел ослов и лошадей в этом дереве отделить от носорогов, но объединить их среди копытных для удобства обзора, если не по инерции). fictional horse (Q2962925) уже было приписано к horse (Q726), так что от отсутствия Equus, по-моему, правильнее не было. Можно и удалить; но зато категория в enwiki связана с деревом в Викиданных. --AVRS (talk) 09:23, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
horse (Q726) — не только про вид, но и про статью в Википедии: смешаны народное название и виды. Вымышленные лошади там умещаются, если не считать их не-Equus, а horse (Q726) только ferus caballus и caballus. Но всё это лишнее, если считать fictional equine (Q27303980) мета-категорией для «видов» (хотя «вымышленное Equidae» подошло бы лучше). --AVRS (talk) 10:06, 20 October 2016 (UTC)