Wikidata:Property proposal/magazine capacity

magazine capacity

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Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Creative work

DescriptionIn (real or fictional) devices like a firearm, weapon, or engineered thing, this is the default capacity or size of a devices' magazine, clip, or other container typically used to hold ammunition, bolts, cartridges, tools, etc. which pushes those items as needed usually through a spring-based mechanism into a receiver for further use by the device
Representsmagazine (Q148958)
Data typeQuantity
Example 1CZ 75 Automatic (Q128424715) > 16
Example 2CZ 75 Automatic (Q128424715) > 20
Example 3CZ 75 Automatic (Q128424715) > 26
Example 4Desert Eagle Mark XIX (Q128788767) > 9 (ammunition (P739) > .357 Magnum (Q158754))
Example 5Desert Eagle Mark XIX (Q128788767) > 8 (ammunition (P739) > .44 Magnum (Q94598))
Example 6Peacekeeper (Q130212252) > 6
Example 8Orb of Destruction (Q129916278) > 25
Example 9CZ75-Auto (Q128424479) > 12
Example 10Minigun (Q124444124) > 200
Example 11Sniper Rifle (Q124444442) > 1
Wikidata projectWikiProject Video games (Q8485882)

Motivation

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We have no way of modeling this so a property is needed

My knowledge of real-life firearms is limited so please bear over me if i made any mistakes.

Discussion

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Don't limit usage to only weapons

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Firearms are not the only engineered things in the world that use magazines (clips). We should change the description to something more like

"In (real or fictional) devices like a firearm, weapon, or engineered thing, this is the default capacity or size of a devices' magazine, clip, or other container typically used to hold ammunition, bolts, cartridges, tools, etc. which pushes those items as needed usually through a spring-based mechanism into a receiver for further use by the device".

This should allow broad usage on not only weapon (Q728), but any engineered device, machine (Q11019), tool (Q123691918), or object (Q488383) most generally. --Thadguidry (talk) 23:50, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Would you mind adding examples? Trade (talk) 00:51, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also fortifications. Vicarage (talk) 04:35, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please add or replace examples Trade (talk) 21:10, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thadguidry, could you please clarify comments above? Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 02:52, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
1. Single and Multi-cartridge pen injectors for diabetes patients use a magazine to hold the cartridge(s).
2. Magazines used in various medical devices where clinical applications are administered to patients, such as nucleic acid delivery systems for cancer treatments.
3. Lab-on-a-chip devices use cartridges inserted into magazines for rapid diagnostic testing.
4. In metalworking, stamping presses use magazines to feed formed sheets or strips of metal into presses.
5. In construction, various tools use magazines to hold nails, screws, fasteners, etc. for quick dispensing. (Nail guns, etc.)
6. CNC Machines use "tool magazines" for holding and autoloading from, to allow continuous operation. In this context, the magazine is reused, over and over to load/unload the tool tips, adapters, etc. from. It's still a magazine and spring loaded typically, but with multiple outlets, not only a single outlet (so that multiple tools can be grabbed from at once, used, and then stored again into the "magazine").
7. Injection molding machines use magazines to automatically load plastic pellets from a larger hopper.
8. Color guns, other equipment types (NOT WEAPONS) used in games and real life - https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Color_Gun -- Thadguidry (talk) 07:17, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thadguidry and Vicarage, would you like to give your opinions? Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 07:26, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Support in its broader usage form. Vicarage (talk) 07:29, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Support in its broader usage form. It will be useful to not constrain this proposed magazine capacity to only weapons, as I have demonstrated above, which can come later with other proposed properties or qualifiers in order to have the capability to narrow queries. Otherwise, it should be renamed to "weapon magazine capacity" as to not affect a future more broader property of "magazine capacity" later on. My preference is to go with the broader form for a property now. Thadguidry (talk) 08:19, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]