Wikidata:Property proposal/when used with property

‎when used with property

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Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic

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Descriptionwhen used with property
Data typeProperty
Domainclasses (quallifier for properties for this type (P1963))
Example 1bridge (Q12280)properties for this type (P1963)number of spans (P1314)when used with propertyleft blank/no value (instance of (P31) is implied)
Example 2writer (Q36180)properties for this type (P1963)Goodreads author ID (P2963)when used with propertyoccupation (P106)
Example 3science fiction literature (Q3238422)properties for this type (P1963)ISFDB title ID (P1274)when used with propertygenre (P136)

Motivation

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properties for this type (P1963) is useful for recommending missing props on an entity based on what the entity is an instance of.

Unfortunatly it only works classes that can be linked with instance of (P31) which isn't how many properties are linked. Some classes that would be a good determiner which properties would be useful are linked with occupation (P106) or genre (P136) or platform (P400).

@Thierry Caro: appearently thought so too, when they changed the description to also apply on occupation (P106).

I basically agree, but why should it only apply on occupation (P106)? Either we agree, it is only limited to instance of (P31) or we properly document which properties are allowed.  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Shisma (talk • contribs) at 08:42, 30 August 2023 (UTC).[reply]

@YotaMoteuchi, Sanqui, Kirilloparma, Azertus, ChristianKl:Update: I decided to withdraw this proposal for two reasons:

  1. There is an already existing property which could do the same job applies to use with property (P11527)
  2. I figured we already have constraints that could be used to fulfill the same job and they are allready well maintained.

If you still think, this proposal should be persued, feel free to reopen it 🤷 –Shisma (talk) 07:27, 6 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

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@TomT0m, Ivan A. Krestinin, Zolo, Josh Baumgartner: (everybody who was in involved with properties for this type (P1963))

writer (Q36180)
properties for this type
  Goodreads author ID
applies to use with property occupation
0 references
add reference
add value
Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 14:36, 2 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds good to me. If we can agree to use it in this way 👌 Shisma (talk) 18:22, 2 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Does "‎when used with property" make sense as an aka label for applies to use with property (P11527) in that schema? Azertus (talk) 14:41, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  Oppose the intented meaning is not clear to me by reading the property description and examples. ChristianKl04:09, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]