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Best regards! --Bill william compton (talk) 18:20, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. «Её могут читать и править люди и боты» — it's funny. Мастер теней (talk) 18:32, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Greenland (Q223 and Q4148644)

Hi, I don't think it was a good idea to split articles on Greenland, since nearly all Wikipedias have an article that is about both the island and the autonomous country. I think it's better to have these on one item, and a separate item (Q4148644) used *only* if there are two articles (e.g. ruwiki). What do you think? SPQRobin (talk) 18:01, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi. I think it's different object:

1. One big island
2. Country, located on an many island: en:Category:Islands of Greenland

Objects have different properties. For example, the area: 2 130 800 km2 (island) and 2 166 086 km2 (country). Мастер теней (talk) 19:29, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Well, yes, those are different objects, but nearly all Wikipedias have only one article about it. It doesn't make sense to arbitrarily divide them into two items when the articles are about both subjects. SPQRobin (talk) 22:19, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

That is divided into two groups: island and country.

en:Greenland. Read: "is an autonomous country within the Kingdom of Denmark, located between the Arctic and Atlantic Oceans, east of the Canadian Arctic Archipelago. Though physiographically a part of the continent of North America, Greenland has been politically and culturally associated with Europe (specifically Norway and later Denmark) for more than a millennium". This article content info about country.

nl:Groenland. Read: "is een autonoom land binnen het Koninkrijk Denemarken, gelegen tussen de Noordelijke IJszee en de Atlantische Oceaan, ten oosten van de Canadese Arctische Eilanden. Hoewel het geografisch een deel is van het continent Noord-Amerika, wordt Groenland politiek en cultureel geassocieerd met Europa (vanwege de historische banden met Denemarken en Noorwegen)". This article content info about political object.

uk:Ґренландія. Read: "найбільший острів Землі (його площа становить 2 130 800 км²). Належить Данії і є автономною провінцією цієї країни". About island.

de:Grönland. Read: "„Grünland“, ist die größte Insel der Erde und wird geologisch zum arktischen Nordamerika gezählt. Aus politischer Sicht ist es ein autonomer Bestandteil des Königreichs Dänemark. Das Gebiet bildet die drittgrößte Wüste der Erde". About island.

Мастер теней (talk) 23:02, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

I agree with ShadowMaster (Мастер теней). One should differ island from country. P.S. Советую применять английскую версию ника, чтобы сообщество могло читать и помнить её. --Infovarius (talk) 18:46, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

Ok, but exist user Master Shadow. Лучше двойной ник. Мастер теней (Master of shadows) 20:44, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

Wikidata:Properties_for_deletion#Property:P201

FYI: there is some question about Property:P403 you created. --  Docu  at 08:36, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Grant proposal about Wikidata

Hello, I am preparing a grant proposal with the title "m:Grants:IEG/Understanding Wikidata". I would be very grateful if you could have a look and comment. Ziko (talk) 18:52, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Мне это не интересно. Мастер теней (master of shadows) 23:57, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Rivers vs Water course

Are you really sure all these waters qualify to be named "rivers"? GeoNames actually call Burritt Creek (Q22352960) a stream. -- Innocent bystander (talk) 16:02, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

watercourse (Q355304) includ "river", "wadi", "stream", etc. "River" better than "watercourse (any flowing body of water)". Мастер теней (master of shadows), 16:24, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

I have added water course since the categories in the Lsjbot-articles includes all kinds of flowing bodys of water. In many cases, these statements can be replaced by river, that is more specific, but it does not fit everywhere. We do not have one single river in Sweden (Q34) for example. -- Innocent bystander (talk) 16:34, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Separation object for river (Q4022) & small river (Q3529419) & stream (Q47521) is unscience. This types don't have precision characteristics (large, area, deep, etc.). Мастер теней (master of shadows), 17:13, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

This edit is wrong! Please roll back all such edits! /ℇsquilo 16:15, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

I have set a one minute block, to halt this. -- Innocent bystander (talk) 16:20, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Why wrong? Мастер теней (master of shadows), 16:24, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Well, a river is normally larger than a stream for example. -- Innocent bystander (talk) 16:27, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

This is convention (условность). What characteristic has the stream? Мастер теней (master of shadows), 16:35, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Much larger. There are only a handfull of river (Q4022) in Sweden, but thousands of watercourse (Q355304), small river (Q3529419), stream (Q47521), etc. /ℇsquilo 16:33, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

watercourse (Q355304) need be clear, becouse it's any flowing body of water. Мастер теней (master of shadows), 16:37, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Better unclear than plain wrong! The reason watercourse (Q355304) is used is because the size of the watercourse is unclear. /ℇsquilo 16:41, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

What characteristic has the river (Q4022) or small river (Q3529419) or stream (Q47521)? Мастер теней (master of shadows), 16:45, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

In broad strokes; A stream (Q47521) is small enough to jump or ford over. A small river (Q3529419) is bigger, but usually not large enough to be navigable. The distinction is not precise because the size differs by season and by location. /ℇsquilo 16:55, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

It's unscience. In russian language river (Q4022) same stream (Q47521) — natural watercourse. Мастер теней (master of shadows), 17:00, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

There is maybe no precise and scientific way to handle this, since language may differ. So, yes, there is a large risk of "unscience" here. In Swedish it even differs between different parts of Sweden. When we, most likely never, can agree about the quantifiers of these entities, a general item like Water course is to prefer? An example, Jordan River in Palestine (Q23792) is named River, but has the size of a small river (Q3529419).

I mean, every running water that isn't made by man, is probably a subclass of Water course. But a very low percentage is a (subclass of) River, at least now after the Lsjbot-project has added so many articles about small water courses. -- Innocent bystander (talk) 17:42, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

I have copied this thread to WD:PC to get more attention to the subject. -- Innocent bystander (talk) 17:49, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Ok. Please clear logs — I stopped all scrips (forgot only one) five minutes ago blocked. Мастер теней (master of shadows), 18:07, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

I can try to delete the log if you like. I only blocked you to get your attention and halt you, so we do not have to revert 1000000 edits instead of 1000 if we come to the conclusion that the edits should be reverted. I do not consider you a vandal or a problematic user. -- Innocent bystander (talk) 18:18, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Ok. Мастер теней (master of shadows), 18:25, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

geographical feature (Q618123)

Прежде чем удалять этот класс, надо было убедиться, что указан какой-нибудь другой тип. Сейчас предлагаю вернуть эти утверждения там, где после удаления не осталось P31 вообще. Лучше общий класс, чем никакого. --Infovarius (talk) 00:21, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

Там было полно ошибочных вхождений. Лучше отсутствие класса, чем такой бардак. Отсутствие хотя бы побуждает к простановке. Что было возможно, отсортировал в более точные. Мастер теней (master of shadows), 06:47, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

Q4400365

Hi,

Can you add a english label to stream channel and its delta near Eberswalde crater (Q4400365). There is something very strange here, I don't see exactly what this item is about. As for instance of (P31), wouldn't be outflow channel (Q7112064) a better value?

Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 18:52, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi.

outflow channel (Q7112064) I have corrected.

stream channel and its delta near Eberswalde crater (Q4400365) — this object located outside Eberswalde crater. In crater only delta.

Русло с дельтой в кратере Эберсвальде — near stream channel and him delta in Eberswalde crater. Мастер теней (master of shadows), 19:14, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

Ok, something like « stream channel and its delta in Eberswalde crater » or « stream channel and its delta near Eberswalde crater » ? (as I understood the delta is *in* the crater but you seem to tell that is outside...) Just to be sure, is it right to add image (P18) = File:Delta on Mars.jpg ?

Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 19:34, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

Delta in crater, stream channel — out. Мастер теней (master of shadows), 19:49, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

Ok, I think I see now. Do you agree with my last changes on stream channel and its delta near Eberswalde crater (Q4400365) ? Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 20:05, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

Ok. That's better. But I wish replace image for full object. Мастер теней (master of shadows), 20:20, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 20:32, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

Удаление ссылок на руВики

Не подскажете, в чём причина пяти ваших последний правок (Q189692, Q159685, Q4076934, Q193452, Q18021)? Sudzuki Erina (talk) 14:21, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

Это не мои правки. Это правки движка, нагло приписанные моей учётке. Так происходит при удалениях администраторами/ПИ локальных статей. Здесь была пересборка историй. Мастер теней (master of shadows), 00:03, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

Спасибо за пояснение. --Sudzuki Erina (talk) 12:53, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

Если производите пересборку историй с временным удалением статьи, не забывайте, что она при этом удаляется из элемента и при восстановлении автоматически не восстанавливается в нём. --Infovarius (talk) 13:31, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

Спасибо, Кэп. Мастер теней (master of shadows), 21:40, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

body of water

What is the difference between body of water (Q15324) and body of water (Q4114033)? --Pasleim (talk) 13:31, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

• Водные объекты включают в себя любые объекты, содержащие воду: ледники, моря, озёра, водохранилища, каналы, реки, родники, болота и т.д.
• Водоёмы включают в себя относительно неподвижные жидкие водные объекты: моря, озёра, водохранилища, болота. Водоёмы это разновидность водных объектов. Мастер теней (master of shadows), 22:12, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
• See articles in current enciclopedia of water of Russia: Водоём and Водный объект. Мастер теней (master of shadows), 23:26, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

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