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Best regards! Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 11:46, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

Previous discussion was archived at User talk:Avatar6/Archive 1 on 2016-03-25.

GZWDer (talkcontribs)

As Wikidata entity ID is designated as a persistent identifier, please do not reuse merged items for new pages. Instead, create new items.

Nikki (talkcontribs)

This is really damaging behaviour and you're still doing it despite being asked to stop. Either stop doing it or you will be blocked. You should also clean up the mess you've made.

Nikki (talkcontribs)

Since you didn't stop, I've blocked you. If you want to be unblocked, then you need to pay attention to your talk page and agree to stop doing this.

Avatar6 (talkcontribs)

Hi! Could you explain why to create new item and then make it "redirect" and then keep such some milllions items of Special:ListRedirects — most of them are wikimedia categories —is not a really damaging behavior? What we need? To make as more redirects qid as we can, for each wikilanguage?

Avatar6 (talkcontribs)
Nikki (talkcontribs)

Wikidata is used by other Wikimedia projects (which doesn't show up in Special:WhatLinksHere) and by external projects (which we encourage). We want our IDs to be stable, so that people can use them and know that they will not change meaning. We can never know whether an ID is being used somewhere.

Redirects shouldn't show up as duplicates anywhere, although there might be a small delay between merging two items and the search updating. If you're seeing duplicates for more than a few minutes, that sounds like a bug.

Jura1 (talkcontribs)
Avatar6 (talkcontribs)

Basicaly, account is used in Harvest Templates tool.

Sannita (talkcontribs)

I was about to notice you not to reuse redirects, but it seems you were already asked not to do so. I simply notice you that I moved to no label (Q56795041) one of your "reuses".

Lymantria (talkcontribs)

I am really disappointed to see you taking up your apparently old habit Q53997260. Please don't, as explained before.

Jura1 (talkcontribs)
Lymantria (talkcontribs)

Agreed, From labelled user contributions I see that Avatar6 has reused merged items several times. He is well aware that this is considered damaging behaviour. So, Avatar6, I will reblock you now I found out that my message wasn't addressing a one time mistake.

Avatar6 (talkcontribs)

What you call "merged items that is considered as damaging behavior" is items, created by bot for single wiki "regular categories" — pages that should be _added to existing items directly_, but _not create apparent items to further merge with existing ones_, that is only qid-counter-up and is _really damaging behavior_ to encrease data integrity enthropy. Redirects from single-wikisite bot-created items are mainly useless qids, that do not linked wikidata internaly in subject namespaces, only linked by edit-actions labels. Consider rather blocking bots, that creating such items-further-redirects. Some bot-algorythms will add newly created or existing pages (such as categories with regular names, by time, by place) to proper items, and _do so only if_ page _do not already have qid_. Or... of cause, collegues, you may consider that process "to create, and keep qid for _every page, on every single wiki_ as redirects to older propet one will ... be considered as _creative behavior_, cteative for useles qid-count up...

Lymantria (talkcontribs)

I never assumed you agreed, but that you are aware that reuse of qids is considered damaging. Nikki as well as GZWDer explained above. You said "I agree to stop doing this". Still you are stubborn enough to proceed. That is, you are not reliable.

Avatar6 (talkcontribs)

That is "you agreed to not understand previously written content of comment"!, and _do not_ understand topic, _reason_... That is — you _are blocking complex comprehensive wikidata integrity impovements by IP. — "you'r blocked" — I BLOCKED by YOU — are you human to conversate as human, or, to think of as "that's not human's here.,." — Write it to your oun achivements at WD., — users are leaving, abandone-ing their accounts due to such "colegues as YOU".--~~~~

Lymantria (talkcontribs)

You didn't leave me many options. Asking to be unblocked by saying "I agree not to..." but doing the opposite.

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Tacsipacsi (talkcontribs)
Tacsipacsi (talkcontribs)

Any progress? The constraint report page is practically useless because of the more than 2000 constraint violations you’ve created.

Tacsipacsi (talkcontribs)

I don’t want you to be blocked just because you don’t mind answering my request, but it seems you force me to do so.

Avatar6 (talkcontribs)

In Europe and in international scienses height measured in SI units — meter.

Tacsipacsi (talkcontribs)

And? Yes, usually heights are measured in meters, but it’s not implicit, this is why units exist in Wikidata. You have to specify what unit you use. For any quantity. Ever. Even if the unit is 1, but even more if not. And you are responsible for all your edits, so you have clean it up.

Laboramus (talkcontribs)

I have converted bad units I could find to meters, but please next time be more careful and try to do a test run to whatever mass update you are doing. Creating almost a thousand bad items is not a good thing.

Tacsipacsi (talkcontribs)

@Laboramus: Thanks a lot, it looks way better now. I’m very sad, however, that Avatar6 hasn’t cleaned up his mess for months. I still wait for a sorry from him.

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Epìdosis (talkcontribs)
Avatar6 (talkcontribs)

Hi! Thnks for invitation. I'll take a part in Wikiproject.

Epìdosis (talkcontribs)

Hi! I'm replacing generic instance of (P31)  Wikimedia category (Q4167836) with specific instance of (P31)  Wikimedia templates category (Q23894233) in all items where it was needed. I've seen you have used instance of (P31)  Wikimedia navboxes category (Q13331174) in some hundreds of items (list): I have kept them (and I have added some), but I'm not sure about their utility, as in the case of instance of (P31)  Wikimedia infobox templates category (Q23894246) (list): in my opinion they are all templates, so Wikimedia templates category (Q23894233) is enough. I would act in this way:

 instance of (P31)category combines topics (P971) + category contains (P4224)
General purposes Wikimedia templates category (Q23894233)Wikimedia template (Q11266439)
Navboxes Wikimedia templates category (Q23894233)Wikimedia navigational template (Q11753321)
Infoboxes Wikimedia templates category (Q23894233)Wikimedia infobox template (Q19887878)
Userboxes Wikimedia templates category (Q23894233)Wikimedia userbox template (Q20769160)
Babel Wikimedia templates category (Q23894233)Wikimedia user language template (Q19842659)

What's your opinion?

Epìdosis (talkcontribs)
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DeFacto (talkcontribs)

Hi Avatar6, the company called Land Rover (Q35907) ceased trading at the end of 2012, so they don't have websites - hence I removed your recent addition there. I imagine you confused them with Land Rover (marque) (Q26777551), the brand name that the cars continue to be sold under internationally. DeFacto (talk) 11:28, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

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Bovlb (talkcontribs)
Avatar6 (talkcontribs)

metaclass, by definition, is a class of classes that can contain either an individual items and a classes or metaclases. Albums, containers, collections is a sets that contains some entities, which can be an individual undivided entity or can be an enty of set(s) of entities. Per example, dvd w discography — set of artworks, that can be mixed of albums (sets of artworks) ever published and individual artworks (not set of artworks nor set of sets of artworks).

Bovlb (talkcontribs)

I’m not sure I understand your response. Are you conflating collections (having instances) and assemblies (having parts)?

Reply to "Albums are metaclasses"
Harmonia Amanda (talkcontribs)

Hi! For names (given names or family names) we create an item by way of writing. So a name in Cyrillic would not be the same article than a name in Latin script. You added native label (P1705) "Третяк" to Tretiak (Q37134587) but this item is about "Tretiak" (the Latin-script name) so it was wrong. Третяк has its own item no label (Q20096996).

Family names are linked together using said to be the same as (P460) and linked to disambiguation pages using different from (P1889). Feel free to ask me any questions about this!

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Emijrp (talkcontribs)

Hello. I received this message. The change is irrelevant? Please, tell me so I know what translation to add to my bot. In some weeks, I could launch again the bot to add more languages and this change could be included in the same edit, without adding noise to the page histories.

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GZWDer (talkcontribs)
Avatar6 (talkcontribs)

thks, but pls retrain yuor bot from creating items for regular categories, such as 'C:{{{year}}} establishments', 'C:{{{year}}} births' 'C:{{{year}}} deaths' 'C:{{{year}}} ...' so on — such categories can be & should be done by local wiki templates (as 'did' in ukwiki for categories u've just wikidated...)

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Nikki (talkcontribs)
Avatar6 (talkcontribs)

@Nikki: Hi! Yea. pls feel free to merge elements. thks for your question and attention for unlinked ukrainian pages. :)--Avatar6 (talk) 12:52, 6 November 2016 (UTC)

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