This is my talk page.


Pinging you (and others) since I suspect through Edinburgh University (and probably data from other orgs like RCAHMS [1]) there are various controlled-vocabulary thesauruses that you are probably familiar with, and could therefore give useful input as to whether or not in your view it would be useful to be able to record the "broader" field from thesauruses like this, on wikidata items matched with entries in such thesauruses, allowing one to reference the thesaurus structure in WDQS queries. Property proposal at Wikidata:Property_proposal/broader_concept. Jheald (talk) 19:44, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

helpful noteEdit

Hi, I noticed you might have to create multiple accounts for the event. I suggest asking at WD:BN for the account creator right. This allows you to create more than 6 per day. Artix Kreiger (talk) 15:30, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

Share your experience and feedback as a Wikimedian in this global surveyEdit

WMF Surveys, 18:57, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Reminder: Share your feedback in this Wikimedia surveyEdit

WMF Surveys, 01:40, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

185 University of Edinburgh employees, with no UIDEdit

# No UID
select ?item ?itemLabel { 
  ?item wdt:P108 ?employer .
  filter not exists {
    ?item ?wdt [] .
    ?wdt ^wikibase:directClaim/wdt:P31/wdt:P279* wd:Q18614948
  service wikibase:label {bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "en"}
} values (?employer) {(wd:Q160302)}

Try it!

Hope that's useful, Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:04, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Witches and calendarsEdit

I saw your edit to Agnes Sampson (Q4693114) in which you added a redundant date of death, 28 January 1591 Gregorian. This contradicts the date already in the item, 28 January 1591 Julian.

I have read on Project chat about a big effort to clean up items about Scottish witches, and I have seen your user name, but I can't remember if you are part of the cleanup project. If you are, and you are going to be making extensive use of the source Survey of Scottish Witchcraft Database] it is essential that you learn their policies about stating calendar dates, that is, do they

  • always use Gregorian dates
  • use the calendar in effect in Scotland at the time of the event
  • something else?

When Scotland (along with the rest of the UK, including what would become the United States) switched calendars, Wednesday 2 September 1752 was followed by Thursday 14 September 1752. Along with skipping these days, there was a change of the date when the new year began, at least for legal purposes. In England the last time 25 March was treated as the beginning of the new year was in 1751; 1752 began on 1 January, and that custom has been followed ever since. Scotland had already switched its new year's day to 1 January in 1600. Historians typically use whichever calendar was in force, Julian or Gregorian, for the date they're writing about, but ignore the 25 March new year's day; they always treat 1 January as new year's day.

I have emailed J. Goodare of that project about these questions, I'll let you know if I find anything. If you can't find any calendar policy stated on the database website, you might try comparing some dates that are unequivocal from other sources and comparing them to the database's values. Jc3s5h (talk) 11:07, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

I have researched this further and put my results at Talk:Q4693114#Deprecation of date of death. Jc3s5h (talk) 13:15, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

Reply received from Prof. Julian Goodare. Prof. Goodare, one of the database editors, promptly replied to my email.

The calendar is that used in Scotland at the time, i.e. the Julian calendar. I doubt whether there are any post-1752 dates in the Survey, but if there are then they will be in the Gregorian calendar. As for the dating of the new year, this is taken to begin on 1 January throughout (even before 1600).

Jc3s5h (talk) 13:25, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

@Jc3s5h: Many thanks for looking into this and bringing this to my attention. Yes, myself and emmacarroll3 are working on a project to import and tidyup the data from the Survey of Scottish witchcraft database. Looks like OpenRefine has automatically set the dates to the Gregorian calendar on import but Emma has now taken note of this and will rectify accordingly. many thanks again, Stinglehammer (talk) 14:03, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
I'm glad I was given some hints about where to look for better sources. I still have doubts; I recall reading that the execution was on a Saturday but 28 January 1591 Julian proleptic calendar was a Thursday. Jc3s5h (talk) 14:23, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

OpenRefine tutorial: restricted accessEdit


I just wanted to let you know that access to seems to be restricted to members of the University of Edinburgh. Thankfully the video is still available on YouTube though.

Pintoch (talk) 08:04, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

@Pintoch: thanks for highlighting this.I've had a look at the permissions and it seems to be published openly. Can you check the link again to see if it is still hitting the Edinburgh Uni paywall please? many thanks Stinglehammer (talk) 12:57, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
Yes it works! Thanks a lot for fixing this, it's a great resource and I always try to avoid linking to Google services when I can. − Pintoch (talk) 14:28, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

Ritual objects and witchcraft trialsEdit

I noticed that you added a bunch of ritual object (P8706) to Agnes Sampson (Q4693114). I have not read the source you cited. Perhaps, in the source, it was clear in context these were alleged objects. But in the context of Wikidata, they are presented as objects that Sampson really used as ritual objects. I object to these additions. Jc3s5h (talk) 14:08, 25 November 2020 (UTC)