Wikidata:Requests for deletions/Archive/2021/03/08

Comment - The item seems originally referring to Sandra Ortega Mera (Q18536851). No idea why OpenRefine think it is a different person. Sun8908 💬 03:48, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Done Redirect created by User:Sun8908, you can do it yourself next time. --DeltaBot (talk) 10:01, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Q105821842

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Empty (page was created by error) Syrio posso aiutare? 11:07, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Deleted by Dexbot (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 12:51, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Q105390032

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Not mentioned neither in de:Mohamed Abdullah nor in en:Mohamed Abdullah, no articles in any wikiproject. I deleted the photo from Commons due to non-notability. Taivo (talk) 10:31, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Deleted by HakanIST (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 13:51, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Q96924400

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Non notable Trade (talk) 22:43, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Deleted by HakanIST (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 14:01, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Q105811080

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Spam ihaveahax (talk) 03:33, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Sidenote: the creator of this item had a userpage that was deleted for spam ihaveahax (talk) 03:34, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Deleted by HakanIST (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 14:01, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Q105816434

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Not notable. Minorax (talk) 03:34, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Deleted by HakanIST (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 14:01, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Q105816320

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Test item Minorax (talk) 03:35, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Deleted by HakanIST (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 14:01, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Q105811756

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Test item Minorax (talk) 03:37, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Deleted by HakanIST (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 14:01, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Q105775176

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Already exists Q1684639 --Ser9ei999 (talk) 09:19, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Deleted by HakanIST (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 14:01, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Q105812704

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Test item Minorax (talk) 03:38, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Deleted by Lymantria (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 17:10, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Q105823558

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Not notable. Minorax (talk) 14:26, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Deleted by Lymantria (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 17:01, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Q105823231

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Not notable/test Minorax (talk) 14:26, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Deleted by Lymantria (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 17:01, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Q105823152

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Not notable/test Minorax (talk) 14:27, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Deleted by Lymantria (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 17:01, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Q105823281

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Not notable/test Minorax (talk) 14:27, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Deleted by Lymantria (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 17:01, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Q105823973

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Not notable/test Minorax (talk) 14:27, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Deleted by Lymantria (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 17:01, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Q105824216

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Not notable/test Minorax (talk) 14:28, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Deleted by Lymantria (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 17:01, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Q105824178

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Test item Minorax (talk) 14:28, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Deleted by Lymantria (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 17:01, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Q105821889

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Test item Minorax (talk) 14:29, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Deleted by Lymantria (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 17:01, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Q105821413

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Not notable. Minorax (talk) 14:30, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Deleted by Lymantria (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 17:10, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Q105821811

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Not notable. Minorax (talk) 14:32, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Deleted by Lymantria (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 17:10, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Q105821155

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Not notable/self promo Minorax (talk) 14:32, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Deleted by Lymantria (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 17:10, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Q105824272

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Not notable/test Minorax (talk) 14:47, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Deleted by Lymantria (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 17:01, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Q105636027

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Not notable, social media promoting Baby come (talk) 15:51, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Deleted by Lymantria (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 17:10, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Q105426831

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LTA. still fails notability. nothing new has been presented from any of the numerous times it has been deleted. the restore shouldn't have happened. Quakewoody (talk) 21:19, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Q73577152, Q87369502, Q96046265, Q97515960, Q97515964, Q97570601, Q97570778, Q98594676, Q98594703, Q99221180, Q99221268, Q105490572 ... and I am sure there are more that I don't have. Quakewoody (talk) 21:56, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

User:Ayack you restored this, would you like the chance to reconsider your decision? Quakewoody (talk) 22:13, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

It may be that data objects have already been created here several times for Ramy Khodeir. But you also have to be honest that the respective data object was not filled with a lot of information during these creations. This can also be seen in this data object if you look at the version from 14 February 2020. Due to this version, the data object was also deleted by Bencemac. I then asked for the possibility of expanding the data object. In my opinion, I have succeeded in doing this. Bencemac had said in this discussion that he deleted the data object because the data object had no IDs. But after the expansion of Quakewoody and me, this is no longer the case. The IDs IMDb ID (P345), MusicBrainz artist ID (P434) and Genius artist ID (P2373) were added. That is why I personally see no reason why this data object should no longer exist here. Keep --Gymnicus (talk) 22:22, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

It was filled out better in some of those deleted items than it is now. We still deleted it. Quakewoody (talk) 22:32, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

@Quakewoody: Aha, then this data object should also be restored and then merged with the current object. --Gymnicus (talk) 22:50, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Or, we delete this like we have the items, articles, images, categories, and etc. Quakewoody (talk) 22:53, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

To do this, you would first have to explain why it fails to be remarkable. You haven't done that before. Just saying “Not notable”, like last time, is not a reason for deletion for me. --Gymnicus (talk) 23:04, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

It fails notability. There is nothing else to explain. Nothing posted is notable. The things you (and I) didn't post that were posted before are not notable. This is not a notable subject. In fact, the opposite is true, it is up to you to explain why you think a Facebook page makes him notable. Quakewoody (talk) 23:37, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

@Quakewoody: I have already written my reason why I want to keep the data object, and my reason is as far as it is consistent with Ayak's reasoning. Criterion 2 is fulfilled by the IDs IMDb ID (P345), MusicBrainz artist ID (P434) and Genius artist ID (P2373). The Facebook, Twitter and Instagram accounts are only secondary to my justification. --Gymnicus (talk) 09:55, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

An item is notable if "It refers to an instance of a clearly identifiable conceptual or material entity. The entity must be notable, in the sense that it can be described using serious and publicly available references." (Criteria 2). Here we have several external identifiers (IMDB, MusicBrainz, etc.) so, for me, it is notable. Ayack (talk) 08:51, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

@Ayack IMDb and MusicBrainz are wikis. And to prove that point - I did not know that you were a notable french DJ. Would you like a WD item? I will make you one if you want. I can also create an IMDb that corresponds with the music video you made for the album.

Don't worry, I will delete that MB listing before it goes viral and they assign you an Knowledge Graph, ISNI, or VIAF. I am just trying to demonstrate how easy it is to be listed at these "serious and publicly available references'. Quakewoody (talk) 14:11, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Keep Quakewoody you seem to not understand Wikidata notability criteria. Just because someone can add an item to Musicbrainz does not make it invalid or not denote notability. VIAF IDs cannot just be added by anyone. I really do not understand the compulsion to delete items that are fully filled out, refer to real things, and have external identifiers. There are many valid reasons for including these items in Wikidata. "It refers to an instance of a clearly identifiable conceptual or material entity. The entity must be notable, in the sense that it can be described using serious and publicly available references."--Smallison (talk) 18:32, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Correct, ISNI and VIAF are not wikis. However, there are ways to 'make' an ISNI and VIAF and etc. I am not going to tell you (or anyone else) how, because the spammers who haven't figured it out will take the information and create listings. But, as I have stated numerous times, they have made it perfectly clear that they are expanding people they identify - including anyone with a YouTube account (their words, not my straw man interpretation). Do you really think anyone with a YouTube account (which is anyone with a Google account) qualifies for Wikidata? Besides, this entire paragraph is moot because I didn't say I would make him an ISNI. I said I would re... I am not going to repeat it, it is written right there for the world to see what I said. Plus, did you even click on that link? Does that album exist? No, I just made it up. Is he an actual DJ Mix Master? Technically, the answer is, I don't know what he does in his spare time. But I made it up as well. Just to prove the point.

Ramy Khodeir has been deleted numerous times across numerous projects. He is globally blocked because of it. Many of the items listed above were filled in much better, but he didn't pass. Why should he pass now? With half the amount of identifiers, most of which I added to prove the point - he's got 16 Spotify listeners and 110 Twitter followers. I've gained more than that in the last 24 hours simply because I voted to delete some non-notable homosexual content on WMF. They've been trolling me ever since. You think this guy is notable! Quakewoody (talk) 19:15, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

@Quakewoody: You have only added the ID ~~Genius artist ID (P2373)~~ MusicBrainz artist ID (P434) and with this you now want to show that it can be deleted. Unfortunately, in contrast to your imaginary WP Ayack, there is not only this one ID for Ramy Khodeir, but also the IDS IMDb ID (P345) and ~~MusicBrainz artist ID (P434)~~ Genius artist ID (P2373). Also, Ramy Khodier's album really exists, as you can see on Spotify. --Gymnicus (talk) 20:00, 19 February 2021 (UTC) — I accidentally swapped the links. Therefore subsequent adjustment of my contribution. --Gymnicus (talk) 08:32, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

@Quakewoody: To clarify, I'm not sure what you are trying to prove, or why you would go to such lengths. I'm seeking clarity on your actions regarding notability. Is this the place/item to do it? Perhaps not. There are zero ways a non-professional metadata person can make a VIAF ID. This is stringently formulated bibliographic data and should always be taken as a clear marker of notability. Equally, Musicbrainz and other similar sources of identifiers are important sources in the metadata ecosystem. What I am seeking is a recognition that "notability" can be approached in a generous way. Does that mean there isn't "spam"? No. But I think it's really important to recognize that Wikidata can be a really key part in documenting culture through data in a way that cannot be done through writing Wikipedia articles. --Smallison (talk) 16:07, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Keep Matlin (talk) 18:41, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Delete there is no independent source here and the so-called artist and actor has neither produced a music album nor acted in any movie/TV show. --Hannes Röst (talk) 01:48, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Not done I don't see any compelling reason to delete this item. --Martin Urbanec (talk) 19:31, 8 March 2021 (UTC)