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Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Administrator/Dimon2711

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Closed as unsuccessful. Lymantria (talk) 06:59, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Dimon2711 edit

Vote

RfP scheduled to end after 16 March 2019 22:16 (UTC)

Sorry, but I'll use Google translate. Hello, I'm Dimon2711. I want to get administrator rights. I wrote a bunch of appeals to Ymblanter in the last few days asking you to block vandals. He accepted all and blocked everyone. Since I often deal with vandalism, I want to be able to block vandals myself. I also believe that Wikidata must have at least one Ukrainian administrator. I really ask for community support. I will be very grateful! --DiMon2711 22:16, 9 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Votes edit

  1.  Support. I know this user in UkWiki, where he justifies his editor rights. So I won't mind against his new admin rights. --Рассилон (talk) 09:33, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  2.  Support. I also know this user in UkWiki. He helped me several times in Wikidata. I think he will be a good administrator!--Meteor06 12:31, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    This account only had 63 edits on Wikidata before voting, so they are not eligible to vote. --Rschen7754 17:19, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  3.  Oppose --Basio (talk) 14:18, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  4.  Support --Visem (talk) 16:13, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  5.  Neutral This user has done good work so far, but he only received rollback rights a few days ago. I appreciate his enthusiasm, but I think this is a bit too early. I am willing to reconsider at a later date. Jianhui67 talk★contribs 16:27, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    Ok, I understand. But I think, that its won't bad, but its up to U--DiMon2711 16:46, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  6.  Oppose due to the user canvassing. --Rschen7754 17:14, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  7.  Oppose Sorry, but canvassing --AlexKozur (talk) 18:53, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  8.  Support but don't use canvassing. ;-) --Nickispeaki (talk) 20:53, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  9.  Oppose too early —MisterSynergy (talk) 21:02, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  10.  Oppose In Ukrainian Wikipedia the user is often too active in fighting vandalism which sometimes means biting newcomers. Unfortunately I also see such behaviour here: for instance, this is clearly disputable as no good source is given for either and local Wikipedia went for the reverted version. This revert is much worse: it is simply wrong, Surbiton is more accurate than London while we require the most accurate birthplace, and can be easily sourced (I added just one source, while previous value was automatically copied from Wikipedia). That's not something I would expect from an administrator, and canvassing doesn't help either — NickK (talk) 21:28, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  11.  Oppose per Rschen7754; open to considering a re-request after gaining more experience if canvassing does not occur the second time. Mahir256 (talk) 22:29, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  12. Please gain some more experience on Wikidata before getting these rights. We have an intentionally low bar for adminship here, but we do ask that candidates get enough experience to understand how Wikidata is different from other projects, and enough local edits so we can judge things like user interactions / policy knowledge / etc. Thanks for volunteering, and if you get more experience here I would have no problems with supporting next time! -- Ajraddatz (talk) 05:36, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  13.  Oppose Not sure that the user has sufficient technical skills to perform administrative functions in WD. --Mcoffsky (talk) 08:18, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  14.  Neutral, per Jianhui67. Best, ··· 🌸 Rachmat04 · ☕ 16:25, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  15.  Neutral I don't think user had bad intentions. He is in fact very active. But knowledge of rules and general feeling how to deal in various situations needs to be improved/collected. Mykola Swarnyk (talk) 05:18, 12 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  16.  Oppose Only 2101 edits here, plus I've never seen the user before. Sorry I'm not bothered of the candadate's activity in any other project, what I see he's not enough active for Wikidata. The fact that the candadate doesn't hesitate using Google Translator, with claiming "advanced knowledge of English" in the babel box, only makes the chances smaller. --Wolverène (talk) 23:12, 12 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    P.S. As it may cause questions, I'm voting oppose not because of inter-ethnic/political prejudices, vice versa I'm very positive about Ukrainian-speaking users among the sysops. Just for me, the request is done too early. --Wolverène (talk) 23:23, 12 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  17.  Oppose Wikidata policy is made in English and even when it's highly useful to have admins who understand other languages as well, it's important for admins to be able to follow the policy debates on Wikidata well to be able to act according to it's policies. I don't think users that have to rely on Google Translate for discussing in English have the necessary English skills to be a good administrator on Wikidata. ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 10:13, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  18.  Oppose -- Justus Nussbaum (talk) 12:18, 16 March 2019 (UTC) The facts, that Wolverène contributed, and the canvassing, by which the candidate broke the rules, are reasons for my decision to vote 'oppose'.[reply]

Comments edit

@Aldnonymous: if I do not dare, the rules are not forbidden. Moreover, I can become the first Ukrainian administrator. All people (in real life), when they participate in a competition, call all their friends and colleagues with a request for support, I did the same. Only virtual use is forbidden, but I do not have it.--DiMon2711 17:07, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
So you think that this is a competition to get a prize? See Wikidata:Bureaucrats#Users' rights: bureaucrats are free to discount votes made due to Wikidata:Canvassing. --Rschen7754 17:16, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Rschen7754: no, I don't think, that this is a competition. I said this as an example. Also in Wikidata:Canvassing I saw "It is proposed that this informational page become a policy or guideline". I did not write it to all my colleagues, but only to those who are often edited by Wikidata. One of my colleagues already objected. I do not mind that the bureaucrats do not take those voices into account, but if colleagues were really against it, they would have voted like that.--DiMon2711 17:31, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Canvassing is generally not allowed on any Wikimedia site. --Rschen7754 17:38, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Wikidata:Canvassing is indeed not a policy, but in general canvassing is not seen as acceptable by significant parts of this community, which is the reason for the incoming opposing votes. Please don't feel discouraged and continue your work, so that a future request for adminship without canvassing will have a higher chance of being successful. On a sidenote: You are welcome to write in Ukrainian here, this is a multilingual project. If needed, we can google translate ourselves, while users who understand Ukrainian can read the original. :-) --Vogone (talk) 19:41, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Vogone: Добре, я розумію. Але як агітація впливає на адміністрування? Наперед вдячний за відповідь!--DiMon2711 19:49, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • I don't think there's a big need to oppose for canvassing here, and I certainly hope that opposers won't hold this against the user in the future. Other projects, especially smaller ones, tend to be more open to informing other people about ongoing votes and such. That Dimon didn't know such behaviour was unacceptable here speaks to a lack of experience, but not any malicious intent IMO. -- Ajraddatz (talk) 05:38, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Don't worry, we don't, well at least I don't, that's why I'm not gonna vote at all, I still have hope for every user that wish to contribute to all wikimedia projects :) AldNonUcallinme? 13:05, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I think if user put messages on talk pages he should ask to vote about this user, instead of asking vote for or against him (треба було просити проголосувати щодо вашої кандидатури, а не за неї).--Ahonc (talk) 23:23, 13 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Дякую! Я зрозумів це, коли читав WD:Canvassing. Також переклад у дужках писати не потрібно, я розумію англійську дуже добре, але коли діло йде до писання, то виникають проблеми, бо багато слів не можу згадати.  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dimon2711 (talk • contribs) at 05:18, 14 березня 2019 (UTC).
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