Property talk:P1683

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quotation
quotation supporting the statement claim (to be used in the reference or qualifier field only, no quote marks)

Description	quote supporting the statement claim (to be used in the "sources" field).
Represents	citation (Q1713)
Data type	Monolingual text
Domain	references (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
Usage notes	This Wikidata property should be used as a qualifier or as a qualifier in the reference section. The quoted material can be under an active copyright by right of fair use.
Example	According to this template: Curaçao (Q25279) official language (P37) Papiamento (Q33856) source: author (P50) => Governor of the Netherlands Antilles (Q585592) quotation (P1683) => "De officiële talen zijn het Engels, het Nederlands en het Papiamentu.", in Dutch According to statements in the property: Curaçao (Q25279) When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Source	external reference, Wikipedia list article (either infobox or source) (note: this information should be moved to a property statement; use property source website for the property (P1896))
Tracking: usage	Category:Pages using Wikidata property P1683 (Q98131488)
See also	quotes work (P6166), quotation or excerpt (P7081)
Lists	Items with the most statements of this property Count of items by number of statements (chart) Items with the most statements Items with the fewest statements Count of items by number of sitelinks (chart) Items with the most sitelinks Items with the most sitelinks, but no link to one Wikipedia (sample: Welsh Wikipedia, cywiki) Items with the fewest sitelinks Most linked wikis Items with the most identifier properties Items with no other statements Most recently created items Items with novalue claims Items with unknown value claims Usage history (total) Usage history (main statement) Chart by item creation date Database reports/Constraint violations/P1683 Map Random list
Proposal discussion	Proposal discussion
Current uses	Total 165,999 Main statement 97 <0.1% of uses Qualifier 32,697 19.7% of uses Reference 133,205 80.2% of uses

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Scope is as reference (Q54828450), as qualifier (Q54828449): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1683#Scope, SPARQL

Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200), Wikibase property (Q29934218), Wikibase lexeme (Q51885771), Wikibase MediaInfo (Q59712033), Wikibase sense (Q54285715), Wikibase form (Q54285143): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1683#Entity types

This property is being used by: ca:Plantilla:Infotaula personatge ga:Teimpléad:WD Bosca Sonraí Carachtar Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.)

allowed values?

the previous "quote" property (P387) had as its allowed values the following: "long text string (typically > 15 characters, no longer than 200)"

will a similar limit be applied to this new property? Just wondering as I update the Wikidata:Verifiability page section on copyright and fair use: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Verifiability#Verifiability_and_copyright

thanks. -Thepwnco (talk) 17:07, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Altering a quote?

Is it okay to slightly alter a quote to make the context more clear, indicating the changes with brackets? For example, I would like to add a reference to the statement

⟨ Count Dooku (Q51727)    ⟩ student (P802) ⟨ Qui-Gon Jinn (Q51736)    ⟩

The relevant dialogue from Star Wars: Episode II – Attack of the Clones (Q181069), chapter 36, is:

Obi-Wan Kenobi: Qui-Gon Jinn would never join you.

Count Dooku: Don’t be so sure, my young Jedi. You forget that he was once my apprentice, just as you were once his.

I would use the following quote as a reference:

quotation (P1683)You forget that [Qui-Gon Jinn] was once my apprentice

Is that okay? —DSGalaktos (talk) 11:50, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

As you cut the end of the sentence, I'd add "[..]" at the end and where you removed "he". --- Jura 12:04, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Agreed on the end, but isn’t the ellipsis at “he” implied by the “[Qui-Gon Jinn]”? —DSGalaktos (talk) 12:08, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Or perhaps it should be quotation (P1683)You forget that he [Qui-Gon Jinn] was once my [Count Dooku’s] apprentice […]. ? —DSGalaktos (talk) 12:12, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Looks good, but apparently it's "..." not "[..]" (see enwiki). --- Jura 12:22, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

dewiki uses brackets, and ain’t afraid of no beautiful Unicode ellipses (... vs …). So which do we follow on multi-language Wikidata? Help:Sources is unfortunately quiet on this… —DSGalaktos (talk) 12:29, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

If there is one, I think one should follow the conventions of the language the text is in. In doubt, I'd opt for ASCII ;) --- Jura 12:55, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

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1. Is that a convention of the English language, or just of the English Wikipedia?
2. Since most of the languages Wikidata supports can’t be fully represented in ASCII, I think it would be wrong to restrict ourselves to ASCII for any reason – any client that can’t handle Unicode isn’t suitable for Wikidata usage in the first place. —DSGalaktos (talk) 13:05, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

To resolve this discussion, I propose the following guideline: When handling quotes in a certain language, follow the quoting guidelines of that language’s Wikipedia. For example, in English one would follow en:Wikipedia:Quotations, specifically the Formatting section: mark additions or replacements with [square brackets], and removed text with an ellipsis ... (three unspaced periods). In German, the guideline is de:Wikipedia:Zitate: square brackets, and Unicode ellipsis “…”. Rationale: the guidelines of a certain Wikipedia are less ambiguous than the guidelines of the language (according to which style guide? I’m sure there are lots of different quotation styles for any given language), and likely to be reasonable. Any opposed? WDYT Jura? —Galaktos (talk) 23:29, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Use as qualifier?

When this property was proposed, it was to add qoutes to references. Last year Jura1 in special:diff/716386121 added "as qualifier" to the property constraints. Why that? I cannot see how it can used other than to quote from a source. There is no examples of use as qualifier, and no prior discussion that I know of. --Dipsacus fullonum (talk) 17:28, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

@Dipsacus fullonum: by far the most common property where quotation (P1683) is used as qualifier seems to be attested in (P5323) (Query) – I feel like those should use object named as (P1932) instead, though. —Galaktos (talk) 17:40, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

• See Lexeme:L24601 for such a use. I don't think P1932 could work there. Is it creating problems somewhere? --- Jura 11:27, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

Quotation marks

Are we supposed to add in the quotation marks to the quote ourselves, or are they already implied by the property? --RAN (talk) 00:54, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

@Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ): implied, I’d say. (Technical argument: you can format quotations in HTML as <q>quote</q> → quote, which automatically adds quotes, so you wouldn’t want explicit quotes in the text.) --Galaktos (talk) 01:54, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

Internal quotation marks

en:Moldovan language imports a quotation from Wikidata (under "IETF language tag" at Q36392) and puts it in double quotation marks, per that wiki's MOS. Unfortunately the quotation in question includes double quotation marks, resulting in nested quotation marks in a manner contrary to the MOS (internal quotation marks should be single). How should this situation be dealt with? Should we assume here that any use is going to be put in quotation marks, and change appropriately to single quotation marks? Is there a module that can change them automatically? Or must we just endure the inconsistency? Hairy Dude (talk) 12:57, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

I would assume English Wikipedia’s citation module should change the internal double quotes to single ones. We can hardly anticipate each Wikipedia’s style guide here. —Galaktos (talk) 20:39, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Quoting a websites' source code

@Shlomo, Neo-Jay, Filceolaire, DixonD, Laddo:

I would like to use parts of the source code of a website in a reference statement. like here. Should I use this property for it? Should I propose a dedicated property? Should I do it at all? Thanks for your input –Shisma (talk) 15:30, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

@Shisma: quotation (P1683) is typically meant to highlight a small portion of the referenced source that specifically supports a statement. I would add that it is expected to be readable. Not knowing the context in which you plan to use it, pretty hard to tell if it's appropriate... Lαδδo chat ;) 11:02, 29 August 2022 (UTC)