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Nobel Laureate API ID
REST API service with info about Nobel laureates

Applicable "stated in" value	nobelprize.org (Q23684016)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	human (Q5), group of humans (Q16334295) or organization (Q43229)
Allowed values	^(?!0)([1-9]\d{0,3}|10000)$
Example	Marie Curie (Q7186) → 6 (RDF) Karl Landsteiner (Q84405) → 321 (RDF) International Committee of the Red Cross (Q5987345) → 482 (RDF) Jon Fosse (Q443868) → 1032 (RDF)
Source	https://nobelprize.readme.io/ https://www.nobelprize.org/about/developer-zone-2/
Formatter URL	https://www.nobelprize.org/laureate/$1 http://api.nobelprize.org/2.1/laureate/$1
Tracking: usage	Category:Nobelprize template using Wikidata property P8024 (Q91672712)
Related to country	Sweden (Q34) (See 117 others)
Lists	Items with the most statements of this property Count of items by number of statements (chart) Items with the most statements Items with the fewest statements Count of items by number of sitelinks (chart) Items with the most sitelinks Items with the most sitelinks, but no link to one Wikipedia (sample: Welsh Wikipedia, cywiki) Items with the fewest sitelinks Most linked wikis Items with the most identifier properties Items with no other external identifier Items with no other statements Most recently created items Items with novalue claims Items with unknown value claims Usage history (total) Usage history (main statement) Chart by item creation date Map of people by place values: place of birth educated at work location residence place of death place of burial January 1st dates People with date of birth on January 1 People with date of death on January 1 People with both dates on January 1 Database reports/Constraint violations/P8024 Map Random list
Proposal discussion	Proposal discussion
Current uses	Total 1,039 Main statement 993 out of 968 (103% complete) 95.6% of uses Qualifier 4 0.4% of uses Reference 42 4% of uses
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Format “1\d{3}|[1-9]\d{0,2}”: value must be formatted using this pattern (PCRE syntax). (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P8024#Format, SPARQL

Distinct values: this property likely contains a value that is different from all other items. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P8024#Unique value, SPARQL (every item), SPARQL (by value)

Single value: this property generally contains a single value. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P8024#Single value, SPARQL

Type “human (Q5), group of humans (Q16334295), organization (Q43229)”: item must contain property “instance of (P31), subclass of (P279)” with classes “human (Q5), group of humans (Q16334295), organization (Q43229)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P8024#Type Q5, Q16334295, Q43229, hourly updated report, SPARQL

Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P8024#Entity types

Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as reference (Q54828450): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P8024#Scope, SPARQL

This property is being used by: ar:قالب:جائزة نوبل ca:Plantilla:Nobelprize en:Template:Nobelprize he:תבנית:ביו-נובל, he:תבנית:פרופילי מדענים nn:Mal:Nobelprize pt:Predefinição:Prémio Nobel sv:Mall:Nobelprize sr:Шаблон:Nobelprize id:Templat:Nobelprize bn:টেমপ্লেট:নোবেলপুরস্কার ckb:داڕێژە:Nobelprize fa:الگو:Nobelprize ja:Template:Nobelprize ka:თარგი:Nobelprize ko:틀:노벨상 링크 ml:ഫലകം:Nobelprize ta:வார்ப்புரு:Nobelprize ms:Templat:Nobelprize bcl:Plantilya:Nobelprize lt:Šablonas:Nobelprize lv:Veidne:Nobel sl:Predloga:Nobelprize th:แม่แบบ:Nobelprize bs:Šablon:Nobelprize tr:Şablon:Nobelprize tum:Template:Nobelprize zh-min-nan:Pang-bô͘:Nobelprize mk:Предлошка:Nobelprize si:සැකිල්ල:Nobelprize arz:قالب:Nobelprize pa:ਫਰਮਾ:Nobelprize kn:ಟೆಂಪ್ಲೇಟು:Nobelprize nan:Pang-bô͘:Nobelprize azb:شابلون:Nobelprize et:Mall:Nobelprize vi:Bản mẫu:Nobelprize Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.)

ID

@Popperipopp: FYI we have the ID in WD as exact match (P2888) in see query < 985

• MISC
  • Test API version 2.0 T234889
  • T200668 Set up Nobel Data as federated search with Wikidata
  • SPARQL Federation using Listeria
  • tweet Hans to see if we can create weblinks just using this id Nobel Laureate API ID (P8024). We have before spoken about that its today a mess see my blog

FYI I have had some contact with Hans Melin and dont hesitate to contact me ++46705937579 - Salgo60 (talk) 13:23, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

I started a quickstatement batch 27314 .... SPARQL query, query2 = 944 - Salgo60 (talk) 14:14, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Great with the quickstatement batch! Popperipopp (talk) 11:34, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

New linking model proposed based on the ID

We got the following suggestion from the Nobelprize.org people that I feel is a step in the right direction of easier linking people see also T248939

Hi!
We can provide you with one url to link to for each id and we may foward to that persons/organizations page if one prize, and > present a list of Prizes if more than one. There are at least two ways: We can use the current API with links as https://api.nobelprize.org/2.0/laureate/6 and you provide a flag to get a redirect instead of a json return. Or we can create a bespoke url for you like https://www.nobelprize.org/laureates/6 that only perform this task. The first one may be more in line with our future LOD model, but the latter one may be easier for you. Let me know what you think and what you need and I can setup a test for you.
/ Hans
Yours sincerely,
Nobelprize.org Team

cc: @Popperipopp, Larske: any comments/thoughts....

- Salgo60 (talk) 14:23, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

Harmonizing the identifiers would be excellent. I have no additional thoughts on this. Popperipopp (talk) 11:47, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Version 1 is now implemented for creating links in Wikipedia using Nobel Laureate API ID (P8024)

see also T251055 "Template Nobelprize winners Wikidata property P8024 and new link model to Nobelprize.org"

ping people involved in this and the deletion discussion of P3188 that I guess should be deleted now...

@Popperipopp, Larske, Sturban, ArthurPSmith, Trivialist, VIGNERON:@Daniel_Mietchen, Pigsonthewing, Thierry_Caro: We can now use the id in Nobel Laureate API ID (P8024) for linking to Nobelprize.org

Background: We have had problems with link rot in Wikipedia when the target is the Nobel prize web. Also creating links from Wikidata was not possible. The Nobel prize web has done a lot of design changes and restructured the web --> Wikipedia got even more problems linking or maintain a Wikidata property like P3188 (P3188)

• e.g. Albert Einstein (Q937) has an article in 209 languages / abt. 56 000 daily views and I guess many of those languages links the www.nobelprize.org web --> when a design change is done in www.nobelprize.org its not easy to maintain all those Wikipedia links ...

I did 2019-feb an overview of how many pages are linked and discussed this with Hans at Nobelprize.org and we saw both the problem, when Popperipopp suggested Nobel Laureate API ID (P8024) and it was approved I suggested to Hans if they could have an solution that would make it easier for Wikipedia to maintain links and maybe use the new unique ID they have in Nobel prize API version 2.0.

Solution: the Nobelprize API version 2.0 has an unique id per Nobel Laureate that Wikidata store in Nobel Laureate API ID (P8024). The Nobelprize IT department will now maintain a redirect to a landing page e.g. Albert Einstein (Q937) is ID 26 -->

• we will have https://www.nobelprize.org/laureate/26 for a html page
• https://www.nobelprize.org/laureate/26?format=json for a json page

• List of all objects in Wikidata with Nobel Laureate API ID (P8024)
• Next step I guess is to create templates on all languages that would like to implement this see T251055
  • I guess candidates are templates using P3188 (P3188) see Template:Nobelprize (Q26882253)
  • a version 1 of a template has been created on sv:Wikipedia see Template:Nobelprize (Q91652187) using property Nobel Laureate API ID (P8024)
    • Nota bene we have Marie Curie (Q7186) with id 6 that has received it two times then its solved by adding an extra page see https://www.nobelprize.org/laureate/6

Summary: please give feedback I guess this is version 1 and I feel this solution will not solve everything But I think its a good pattern that we have an dialogue with an organisation like Nobelprize.org to find an solution that hopefully will do something that both the Wikipedia community and the Nobel prize people will benefit of.

Any advice how to push this message out to all 205 Wikipedia languages are welcome and help with creating templates in local languages. I did a small exercise linking 160 000 people in Europeana with Wikidata and then lesson learned pushing this out on more Wikipedia language versions is not easy see report

• Template using this Template:Nobelprize (Q91652187)
• Category created to track usage Category:Nobelprize template using Wikidata property P8024 (Q91672712)

see also Task T251055 - Salgo60 (talk) 22:10, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

• @Salgo60: Thanks for engaging with the organization, it would definitely be good for every similar organization to try to provide stable id's and API's like this. I don't have any advice on templates or engaging the language wikipedias though, sorry. ArthurPSmith (talk) 12:19, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

• @ArthurPSmith: its an excellent pattern that we delegate the responsibility for the linking to the people at Nobelprize.org and I can also see new possibilities that the Nobelprize people easily can link an application like Scholia just using the Nobel Laureate API ID (P8024) id. Pushing this concept out on 200 languages is not so easy I guess we need Denny next version of Wikidata even if this task is based on components like templates and Wikidata its some lines that needs to be in local language and you need to explain for people not used to create templates and its not easy in a loosely coupled network see task T251055 ;-) - Salgo60 (talk) 06:20, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Notebook for synch Wikidata and the Nobel data

This Notebook Nobel API 2.1 - check Wikidata and Nobel API has been created for keeping Wikidata P8024 and Nobel API in synch - Salgo60 (talk) 19:30, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

• Notebook for fetching motivations - Salgo60 (talk) 08:06, 16 May 2022 (UTC)