Wikidata:Property proposal/epithet

epithet edit

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic

Done: epithet (P8822) (Talk and documentation)

Description	epithet (byname) for a human, a character or a deity
Represents	epithet (Q207869)
Data type	Item
Domain	epithet (Q207869)
Example 1	Apollo (Q37340)epithetPhoebus (Q3382132)
Example 2	Apollo (Q37340)epithetAgreus (Q21548142)
Example 3	Dionysus (Q41680)epithetBromius (Q2566812)
Example 4	Zeus (Q34201)epithetAlastor (Q21548203)
Planned use	slow manual additions, eventual import from ToposText (Q87068904)
See also	nickname (P1449)

Motivation edit

Notified participants of WikiProject Ancient Greece Whilst nickname (P1449) allows to indicate the nickname/byname/epithet of someone, it has datatype "monolingual text"; nevertheless, we have hundreds of items being instance of (P31)epithet (Q207869) (I especially refer to ancient Greek mythology) and many more items can be imported from ToposText (Q87068904) and it should be possible for ancient Greek mythological characters and deities to link to them through a specific property. Epìdosis 16:06, 5 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion edit

Oh, this is very reasonable. -- Marcus Cyron (talk) 16:43, 5 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed, sounds reasonable to me. DerHexer (talk) 19:50, 5 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Tinker Bell ★ ♥ 21:26, 5 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment How about adding "statement is subject of" qualifiers to existing statements? --- Jura 22:38, 5 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Jura1: I think a dedicated property is a better solution, although this solution may be viable. --Epìdosis 23:40, 5 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Jahl de Vautban (talk) 08:10, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment it just popped in my head. Do you indend of listing every possible epithet on the various gods? Actually I don't think that would be a good solution, as Zeus can't be Meilichios, Soter, Eleutherios, Osogo, Eumenes, and so on, at the same time. We would need a specific Qid for each of the "aspects" (for lack of a better word) of a deity. --Jahl de Vautban (talk) 06:54, 7 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support Don't ping me NMaia (talk) 11:59, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Epìdosis: Can you rewrite the description so that it doesn't just repeat the word "epithet". That's helpful for getting good translations into other languages that don't have that word. ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 14:32, 9 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@ChristianKl: I've added "byname" in parenthesis, I wouldn't remove epithet totally from the description. --Epìdosis 16:37, 9 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Epìdosis, Marcus Cyron, DerHexer, Jura1, Jahl de Vautban, ChristianKl: --Tinker Bell ★ ♥ 19:27, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]