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twinned administrative body
twin towns, sister cities, twinned municipalities and other localities that have a partnership or cooperative agreement, either legally or informally acknowledged by their governments
Descriptiontwin towns or sister cities - twin town (Q184711)
Representstwin town (Q184711)
Data typeItem
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According to this template: places: towns/cities/municipalities - administrative territorial entity (Q56061)
According to statements in the property:
administrative territorial entity (Q56061), city (Q515), city or town (Q7930989), neighborhood (Q123705), human settlement (Q486972), railway station (Q55488), school (Q3914) or monument (Q4989906)
When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Allowed valuesadministrative territorial entity (Q56061) (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
ExampleSamara (Q894) → Stara Zagora (Q170415)
Salzburg (Q34713) → León (Q208151)
Sourcew:Twin towns and sister cities
    • "Saint Petersburg has more sisters than any other city in the world" at w:Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-02-25/Recent_research. The paper quoted there mentions: "The dataset used in this study was constructed [..] from [..] the English Wikipedia. We found 15 225 pairs of sister cities, which form an undirected city network of 11 618 nodes.[..]"
(note: this information should be moved to a property statement; use property source website for the property (P1896))
Robot and gadget jobs
    • Consistency should be checked for symmetric reciprocal relations
Tracking: usageCategory:Pages using Wikidata property P190 (Q23909119)
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    Current uses
    Total53,621
    Main statement53,618>99.9% of uses
    Qualifier2<0.1% of uses
    Reference1<0.1% of uses
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    Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). Known exceptions: passage Pommeraye (Q8326)
    List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P190#Type Q56061, Q515, Q7930989, Q123705, Q486972, Q55488, Q3914, Q4989906, SPARQL
     
    Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). Known exceptions: Cap-Rouge (Q2936966), passage Pommeraye (Q8326)
    List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P190#Value type Q56061, Q515, Q7930989, Q123705, Q486972, Q55488, Q3914, Q4989906, SPARQL
     
    Symmetric property: if [item A] has this property linked to [item B], then [item B] should also have this property linked to [item A]. (Help)
    Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
    List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P190#Symmetric, SPARQL
     
     
    Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)
    Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
    List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P190#Entity types
     
    Scope is as main value (Q54828448): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
    Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
    List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P190#Scope, SPARQL
     
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    Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.)


     
    Contemporaries:
    if [item A] has this property (P190) linked to [item B],
    then [item A] and [item B] have to coincide or coexist at some point of history.
    Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
    List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P190#Contemporary, SPARQL
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    Don't add without sources

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    Latest comment: 11 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

    This is one of the properties, to which must be added the sources. --Stryn (talk) 20:20, 29 March 2013 (UTC)Reply


    312 cities => 1073 symmetry violations

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    Latest comment: 11 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

    LOL .. seems to need lots of bots. --  Docu  at 18:37, 20 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

    Rename the label to ???

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    Latest comment: 9 years ago6 comments4 people in discussion

    I think we should rename the label (and description) to something other, so it includes also smaller places like municipality. --Nightwish62 (talk) 20:53, 30 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

    Good question. On the other hand, we can also leave it to Wikipedia to selected a label that works depending on the item.
    BTW there is now also a property called "twinning". --  Docu  at 21:01, 30 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
    Yeah, but I don't feel comfortable when I'm editing this property, because as long as the description only says 'towns and cities', someone could delete municipalities. That's what I fear! --Nightwish62 (talk) 20:22, 1 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
    That can always happen. Anyways, I expanded the description. --  Docu  at 19:01, 3 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
    Having only synonyms as a description, rather than a full sentence or two is not wise and adds to more confusion. I have expanded the English description a bit more. The actual Wikpedia page that this property idea is representing is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin_towns_and_sister_cities and takes 4 clicks to get there from the Property page! This must be improved! Can WP links be used in a Property Description ? Thadguidry (talk) 21:00, 27 September 2015 (UTC)Reply

    @Nightwish62, @Docu Hi! I edited some hundred of items. twin place was the best general / common name I could find. Regards gangLeri לערי ריינהארט (talk) 13:24, 7 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

    consistency check

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    Latest comment: 11 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

    I added this property to my User:JonnyJD/consistency_check.js (symmetry). --JonnyJD (talk) 23:52, 17 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

    Partnerships with provinces

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    Latest comment: 10 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

    also belong here (?), see de:Landkreis Rastatt#Kreispartnerschaften with Province Pesaro and Urbino--Oursana (talk) 00:51, 26 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

    country (P17) should be mandatory, etc.

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    Latest comment: 3 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

    Hi! There are some issues:

    Regards gangLeri לערי ריינהארט (talk) 11:46, 17 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

    Thanks for noticing! The links are broken, is there a new tool? Syced (talk) 12:41, 15 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

    "Twin city" is confusing

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    Latest comment: 10 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

    Maybe I should have looked here before changing this, but let me note that "twin city" is a really confusing name. Here in the U.S., it usually refers to two cities that are adjacent to each other, like Minneapolis and Saint Paul, where I come from. So I thought there was some large city I never heard of in Brazil called "Budapest"… At least maybe use "twinned city"/"twinned town". Innotata (talk) 18:33, 11 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

    Asymmetric and unclear statuses

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    Latest comment: 9 years ago3 comments3 people in discussion

    It seems, that there are some grades of twinning. Paris (Q90) only twinned city is Rome (Q220), but there are some official friendships of Paris to other cities. Berlin (Q64) lists Paris as its Partnerstadt (twin town (Q184711)). I guess, this property needs a very clear definition and guidelines. Maybe there should be properties like

    • B sees A as its „sister city“
    • A sees C as its „Partnerstadt“
    • C have signed a pact of friendship and cooperation with A, B, D

    Sometimes twinning is falling asleep. One of both had forgotten its sister, but the sister lists proudly the bad sister furthermore. But who of them are right? --Diwas (talk) 22:52, 23 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

    Good point. I just saw that Istanbul distinguished "sister cities" and "cities with whom it has signed a cooperation treaty" [1]. However, Wikidata and Wikipedia seem be treating all of the cities listed there as "sister cities". It also seems clear that the exact content of such treaties will change over time and will possibly use different terms in different languages. Therefore it is natural that the status must be asymmetric. Suggestions:
    • relax the notion of sister city to be maximally inclusive (I don't see hope to come up with a narrow definition)
    • embrace asymmetry: each city should list only the sisters for which it provides own references (such as a list of sister cities on its homepage)
    • use qualifiers to clarify different statuses of sister city if needed
    Regards, Markus Krötzsch (talk) 08:46, 8 June 2015 (UTC)Reply
    I agree with MK here, that it'd be a good idea to use qualifiers for different statuses of sister city. I found the Macao government has similar distinctions. [2] It has a sister city relationship with six cities, signed a "friendship agreement" with a further two, and formed a "cultural memorandum of understanding" with another city.
    I don't know if the other terms (friendship agreement and cultural memorandum of understanding) are standard official terms. Perhaps "cooperation treaty" is the same as "friendship agreement"? I also got the impression from the webpage that "cultural memorandum of understanding" is more casual/informal, or a more mild connection, than a full sister city relationship. Macau's government does at least detail all types on a single page, so the different types are related. –84.92.129.87 14:24, 2 September 2015 (UTC)Reply

    Using Wikidata's twinning data to populate the Wikipedias

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    Latest comment: 3 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

    Is there any past or ongoing project or tool to more easily maintain lists such as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taichung#International_relations?

    • Any language Wikipedia is fine.
    • Ideally fully dynamic, so that any Wikidata modification impacts Wikipedia immediately.

    Thanks! Syced (talk) 12:40, 15 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

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