User talk:Jon Harald Søby/Archive/13

"family name" in Bengali

Just a heads up, since this was present in your previous surname run: the term for "family name" in Bengali is "পারিবারিক নাম", not "পারিবারিক নামাম". Mahir256 (talk) 00:49, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

@Mahir256: Thanks for the note, I'll take a round with my bot to replace it! Jon Harald Søby (talk) 00:53, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Would you be able to fix the rest of the errors of this sort? I thought I got to them all once, but apparently not... Mahir256 (talk) 23:03, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

I suspect that somewhere in your scripts (not hosted on Wikidata itself) is this error, as I recall back in March adjusting other users' namescript.js to correct it. Mahir256 (talk) 23:07, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

@Mahir256: You are absolutely correct, it snuck into my personal Python script for creating surname items. I'll fix the errors now. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 23:09, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

Etternavnet Holm

Hei, finnes det noen enkel måte å erstatte Q18515509 med Q10525262 for de personene det gjelder? --Cavernia (talk) 07:57, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

@Cavernia: Enkleste er bare å vente til det kommer en bot og gjør det, det pleier ikke å ta så veldig lang tid. Med mindre det haster av noen grunn? Jon Harald Søby (talk) 09:04, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

Språk i etikettlisten

Hei. Tidligere fikk jeg tilgang til etikett på alle språk jeg hadde lagt inn i babel-listen, men nå har jeg kun engelsk, bokmål, nynorsk og samisk. Vet du hvordan man kan endre dette tilbake? Mvh. --Wikijens (talk) 13:29, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

@Wikijens: Jeg gjorde nettopp en dummyredigering på brukersida di, hjalp det? Hvis ikke bør du prøve å logge ut og logge inn igjen. Alt funker som det skal for meg, så det høres ut som noe hikke en plass i systemet. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 13:32, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Takk. Det var åpenbart det som skulle til. Nå har jeg alle språk igjen! --Wikijens (talk) 13:36, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

@Wikijens: Yay! Jon Harald Søby (talk) 13:38, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Pekersider

Hei. Er det fortsatt slik at iw-lenking av pekersider dels baseres på ordlikhet og dels på betydningslikhet (som jo av og til skaper konflikt) eller er det forsøkt avklart? Konkret eksempel: Bør Q28657094 flettes over til Q1734972 og hvis ja, er det mulig å unngå å få med alle labels "Sint-Casimirkerk" (bortsett fra nederlandsk)? Mvh. --Wikijens (talk) 09:13, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

@Wikijens: Jeg er neimen ikke sikker. Jeg syns det gir mening å slå dem sammen, men det virker ikke som om det er retningslinjene. Det jeg fant der var denne sida (se spesielt diskusjonssida, det er mange lignende spørsmål der, men ikke noen entydige svar …). Det beste er kanskje å koble de to pekersidene sammen med said to be the same as (P460). Jon Harald Søby (talk) 12:25, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

i need help

hello I need help, I thank you for deleting Page on [enwiki] deleted: Lorenzo Alejandro Laviosa Lopez) but it will be possible to delete the Spanish version https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorenzo_Alejandro_Laviosa_L%C3%B3pez because the information is defamatory towards me--Kraken1982 (talk) 11:07, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for welcoming me in wiki data. I want to make list like this , but i dont know how to start, can you help me?--Mojackjutaily (talk) 22:49, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

@Mojackjutaily: Sure! The difficult part of these lists is to create the right SPARQL query. They can be a bit tricky, especially if you've never used them before, but luckily there are plenty of good examples available on the query service.

If you tell me what you would like the list to contain, I can help you create an example, and show what the different parts of it do. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 23:04, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

well, i wanna make lists about different topic . one about Directors without an article in the Arabic wiki (here a list about actor), a wanna make Similar one . And second list about singer with the same idea.--Mojackjutaily (talk) 20:47, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

and both with most sitelinks.--Mojackjutaily (talk) 20:52, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

@Mojackjutaily: Alright, so for film directors, this query will do the trick. What you need to do with it is to copypaste the query, and use it in the {{Wikidata list}} template on a page (preferrably on arwiki). I put some comments in the query to explain what is going on in what line. To do the same for singers, just replace "Q2526255" on line 4 with "Q177220". (Tip: When editing a query on that site, you can click Ctrl+Space to write label for something in your language, instead of having to remember or copypaste the Q numbers.)

In the {{Wikidata list}} template there are many things you can choose to have displayed, as is explained on the template documentation. For this list of directors, I personally would choose their name and picture, gender, citizenship, date of birth and death and IMDb ID, as well as the number of sitelinks. To get that in the template, use the following for the parameter "columns":

P18:Image,label:Article,P21:Gender,P27:Country,P569:Date of birth,P570:Date of death,P345:IMDb,?linkcount:Links

The label that is shown will be in the language of the wiki by default, so if you put this on the Arabic Wikipedia, it will be shown in Arabic as long as there is an Arabic label for that person in Wikidata. If there is not, I think it will show English, but it might show the Q number instead. Also, with the parameter links you can choose whether it should have red links to create articles in the Arabic Wikipedia, or if the links should point to the Wikidata item. I imagine a lot of these people will not have Arabic labels, since there is no article, so I would actually recommend you to link to Wikidata (using links=all) so that you can visit the item to see other Wikipedia's article titles, making it easier to transcribe names.

I hope that's enough, but if you're having any trouble with the template or anything, don't hesitate to ask – I'd be happy to create the list for you, but it's an even better learning experience to try yourself first. :-) Jon Harald Søby (talk) 21:20, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

turn out someone made a list about directors, so i made one about female actor but nothing happening. here is mine . --Mojackjutaily (talk) 11:39, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

@Mojackjutaily: Works now, you did things correct, the only thing missing was that you need to click the "Update list manually" link ("تحديث القائمة" in Arabic). Jon Harald Søby (talk) 11:41, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

yes it did, thank you very much my friend, now i will do list for singers and then albums . i really appropriate your help. --Mojackjutaily (talk) 11:45, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

No problem, any time! :-) Jon Harald Søby (talk) 11:47, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your message

Thanks, Jon Harald Søby. I am not sure what I would find to do here. For now I work here indirectly through page moves on various Wikipedias that are captured as Wikidata entries. However, if you noticed somthing specific that I could be doing by virtue of speaking Portuguese/ working with Angola, please don't hesitate to drop me a line. Rui Gabriel Correia (talk) 09:22, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

@Rui Gabriel Correia: Yeah, I realize most of the people I welcome probably didn't actively go to Wikidata to edit, but I think it's still useful to have the welcome template, as it gives some good links and pointers to where to start and how to edit. After all, more and more wikis are using infoboxes containing information from Wikidata, so it's nice to be aware of where to go to edit stuff that pertains to that.

As for Angola, I don't know anything specific, but there's always plenty of stuff to do if you look in the right places. Especially for African countries, Wikidata's coverage is–like Wikipedia's–often rudimentary, so for example going to items about places in Angola and adding the relevant located in the administrative territorial entity (P131) for example could be a good place to start. But don't worry too much about it, if you're busy editing Wikipedia that's just as valuable a contribution! Jon Harald Søby (talk) 21:35, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your comment. I am very very new here, and have only made one or two minor corrections on the past. My biggest contribution by far is my recent inclusion of a Greek language entry for Voltaire famous (or infamous) novella, Candide. Any assistance or instruction you may provide in terms of improving my entry will be very much appreciated.DMaiga

Hi, Dramaiga52! That looks like a very good start to me, but I'm afraid I can't help too much because I don't understand Greek. I did notice that the user Texniths added a few templates to the article, which indicate that the article needs some formatting (the subject of the article in bold, internal links to relevant pages, etc.). If you take a look at Βικιπαίδεια:Βοήθεια, there should be a lot of links that can help you with that, and I'm sure Texniths would be happy to help if you ask him/her. :-) Jon Harald Søby (talk) 01:59, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your note, Jon. I'm probably going to stick to editing existing Wikipedia-started entries until I get the hang of it but I appreciate you reaching out to offer assistance. BologniousMonk (talk) 04:55, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

Radziwon

Similar pages are qualified as disambiguations or as surnames in different language versions. It's a problem to be solved rather than a vandalism diagnosed by you. Xx236 (talk) 08:57, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

@Xx236: Sorry, didn't mean to imply it was vandalism! The rule for names here is that one string = one item. So the names Radziwon and Radzivon (and whatever other variations) should be different items. It does lead to some inconveniences with regards to interwiki links, but I don't really think there's a better way to solve it than to keep it separate when the articles are (purportedly) different classes. Anyways, an item can't be (or shouldn't be) both a Wikimedia disambiguation page (Q4167410) and a male given name (Q12308941), they are logically two very different things.

Also, the two sitelinks that you merged into the male given name "Radziwon" are actually about the surname "Radziwon", which would be Radziwon (Q37216792). Jon Harald Søby (talk) 09:06, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Wilchen Riboldt (Q12010625)

I've removed a statement you had added. You might want to readd it, I just didn't find a source and there are sources for the same day one year earlier. Best regards, --Marsupium (talk) 10:46, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

@Marsupium: Thanks! It was added as part of the Wikidata game via no:Wilchen Riboldt, I've corrected the date in that article now. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 10:56, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

Ah, ok, thank you! --Marsupium (talk) 10:58, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

Thank you 😊.

Thank you for the welcome message. -- 徵國單  (討論 🀄) (方孔錢 💴) 15:57, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

Referanser

Hei, Jon Harald. Vet du hvordan man enkelt kan legge til referanse på et utsagn (?) som er en liste og hvor alle som står oppført har samme kilde. Se for eksempel Niels Prize (Q46992886) som jeg opprettet for noen dager siden og hvor jeg har ført opp alle vinnerne. Her har jeg lagt til samme referanse på hvert navn, det er ganske mange. Referansen kunne jo stå bare en gang. --Anne-Sophie Ofrim (talk) 10:59, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

@Anne-Sophie Ofrim: Bruk skriptet dragref.js ved å legge inn dette i User:Anne-Sophie Ofrim/common.js:

// [[User:Magnus Manske/dragref.js]]
importScript( 'User:Magnus Manske/dragref.js' );

Så legger du inn referansen på det første utsagnet i lista, og så bare klikker og drar du det videre til neste. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 16:14, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

Ok, takk, får se om jeg tør det da. He he. --Anne-Sophie Ofrim (talk) 17:05, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

organisasjoner

Hei og godt nytt år. Hvordan er mest fornuftige måte å koble sammen Q47012368 og Q215934? Mvh. --Wikijens (talk) 13:17, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

@Wikijens: Godt nytt år ja! Er ærlig talt ikke sikker, de elementene jeg kommer på som kan være analoge til denne har som regel intenging. Unntaket er Wikimedia Norge (Q6985258) som har part of (P361) Wikimedia movement (Q3568028) (men det er jo ikke det samme som Wikimedia Foundation (Q180)). Her kommer også lokal juss inn i bildet – er Redd Barna Norge en underavdeling av internasjonale Redd Barna, eller er det – på samme måte som Wikimedia Norge – en uavhengig organisasjon som har et tett samarbeid med internasjonale Redd Barna? Røde Kors og Amnesty hadde visst heller ingen eksempler, det er de organisasjonene jeg kommer på som er likest denne. Tror kanskje det er best å spørre på Wikidata:Project chat. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 13:25, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

Takk for svar. Jeg vurderte også om vi heller burde foreslå fletting på no.wp av den norske og den internasjonale organisasjonen. Mvh. --Wikijens (talk) 13:27, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

@Wikijens: Nei, det syns jeg ikke er noen god idé, for de er jo to forskjellige organisasjoner med forskjellige stiftelsesdatoer, ledere, org.nr., nettsteder, osv osv. Best å holde dem adskilt. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 13:29, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

Ok. Da holder vi dem adskilt. La bare merke til at det stort sett kun var no.wp som har artikler om enkeltavdelinger (også den danske og svenske), mens andre språkversjoner så ut til å behandle det hele som én organisasjon. --Wikijens (talk) 13:32, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

prisvinner flere ganger

Hei igjen. Når en person f.eks. har vunnet en pris flere ganger, er det mest hensiktsmessig å opprette 2 ganger samme påstand med ulikt år (f.eks. Q712989) eller 1 gang med 2 kvalifikatorer (f.eks. Q1384068)? Mvh. --Wikijens (talk) 10:25, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

Har også spurt på [1]. --Wikijens (talk) 12:13, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

@Wikijens: Førstnevnte er ryddigst. For av og til er jo priser delt mellom flere personer, eller har andre ting som skal være med som kvalifikatorer (for eksempel har vi conferred by (P1027) for hvem som fysisk har tildelt prisen), og hvis man da bare har ett utsagn så blir det feil med disse detaljene. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 14:17, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

Takk, det var også det jeg kom frem til selv (fordi jeg begynte å legge til kvalifikatorene "forrige" og "neste"). Men det blir ikke helt pent i infobokser på no.wp når samme pris kommer flere ganger uten årstall. Men det løser seg vel etterhvert. --Wikijens (talk) 14:20, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

Mix-n-Match

Hei. Da du/WMNO hadde workshop om Wikidata-verktøy lærte vi bl.annet om Mix-n-Match. Jeg brukte det en stund i desember og har opprettet flere elementer via verktøyet.

Hvis du ser her https://tools.wmflabs.org/mix-n-match/#/list/564/unmatched så står det under f.eks. øverste person Torbjørn Pedersen

Search Wikidata | Search nb.wikipedia | Google-search Wikipedias | Google-search Wikidata

Det mangler nå en fane hvor det står Create Wikidata-item, sjekk

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mix%27n%27match/Manual#Manual_mode_(Manual) manualen på Meta. Hvordan skal verktøyet brukes nå når dette er borte ? --Anne-Sophie Ofrim (talk) 11:36, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

@Anne-Sophie Ofrim: Kanskje dumt spørsmål, men kan du sjekke om du er logga inn i Mix-n-Match (via WiDaR)? For meg hender det at jeg blir logga ut på tilfeldige tidspunkt uten at det er noen grunn til det, det kan være noe så enkelt som det. For meg er det ihvertfall fortsatt en «Nytt element»-knapp til høyre. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 11:46, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

Ler høyt! Var visst ikke så dumt å spørre om det. Nå har jeg latt meg autorisere på nytt og da er alt i orden. Uffameg. --Anne-Sophie Ofrim (talk) 11:50, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

@Anne-Sophie Ofrim: Hehe, bra det ordna seg. Bare så du veit det så jobber Anette Faksnes som har praksis i WMNO med denne lista også nå, så hvis du tenker å drive med den nå på dagtid er det kanskje en idé å gå til side nr. 2 (eller 211 eller noe, det er flust å ta av) sånn at dere ikke kræsjer. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 12:00, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

Ok!--Anne-Sophie Ofrim (talk) 12:02, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

writer

Hei. Jeg kom over to unge jenter som var klassifisert som skribenter uten at jeg kunne se noe grunnlag for det. Den ene var Q3507831 og den andre Q14567501. Den siste ser det ut til at din bot har lagt til, så jeg tenkte det kanskje var noe automatikk her som er gått galt. Hva tror du? --Wikijens (talk) 15:01, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

@Wikijens: Sistnevnte har no:Kategori:Norske forfattere på nowiki, lagt inn av Bruker:Jpfagerback, så vi kan kanskje spørre ham om han veit noe som ikke artikkel veit? Jon Harald Søby (talk) 15:08, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

Ja, da var det nok bare tilfeldig. Det kan se ut til at Bruker:Jpfagerback la til kategori ut fra hva som sto i teksten. Den ble opprinnelig skrevet av Bjarkerc, som jeg antar er nært beslektet med personen som beskrives i artikkelen, og det er mulig "forfatter" må tas med en klype salt. --Wikijens (talk) 19:19, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #294

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Discussions
  • Open request for adminship: Jarekt
  • New request for comments: Changes to P2737 and P2738, Privacy and Living People

• Events/Press/Blogs
  • Upcoming: IRC office hour on January 30th - you can share ideas for topics to discuss
  • Call for papers for WikiIndaba is open
  • Scholarship applications for Wikimania are open
  • Registration is open for the Wikimedia hackathon
  • Paper submission deadline for Wiki Workshop (part of The Web Conference) is closing later this month
  • The Tom Longboat Awards as Wikidata - Mita Williams
  • Using the Semantic Web to Improve Knowledge of Translations - Karen Smith-Yoshimura (OCLC)
  • There is no deadline so every second is one: on anxiety, perfectionism, and Wikimedia projects by Léna
  • Up2date software versions for Wikidata by Michi

• Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • Wikidata will be in read-only mode on January 9th from 06:00 to 06:30 UTC
  • The WikidataCon 2017 report has been published
  • Results of two research projects for Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons have just been published:
    • Supporting Commons contributions by GLAM institutions: an overview of how cultural institutions contribute to Wikimedia Commons, and which issues they encounter there
    • Baseline Metrics for Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons: an overview of measurable behaviors on Wikimedia Commons, against which the effectiveness of structured data can be measured in the future
  • You can start organizing an event for Wikidata's 6th birthday in October 2018
  • A short summary of the workshop with historians using Wikibase to collect data about the Illuminati has been published at Wikidata:FactGrid
  • How would the World look like if countries were as large as their Wikidata items are used across the Wikimedia projects?
  • New catalogs in Mix'n'match - for example Rolling Stone artist]
  • New tool: Hub

• Did you know?
  • Newest properties: MuBE Virtual ID, Basketball-Reference.com WNBA coach ID, Basketball-Reference.com NBA coach ID, Académie française member ID, Académie des Inscriptions et Belles-Lettres member ID, Guide to North American Birds ID, title page number, Walters Art Museum ID, Minneapolis Institute of Art artwork ID, CHGIS ID, Guardiana ID, Barnes Foundation ID, VOGRIPA ID, Rugby Canada ID, Ent'revues ID, World of Spectrum ID, Smithsonian American Art Museum ID
  • Query examples:
    • Events starting in 2017 and ending in 2018, shortest duration first (source)
  • Newest database reports: days of 2018

• Development
  • Tweaked the ranking of the results in the entity suggester
  • Finished persistently storing edits of statements on forms (phabricator:T163724)
  • Cleaned up some of the hard-coded demo data on the demo system for lexicographical data
  • Working on diff support for Forms on Lexemes (phabricator:T182424)
  • Prevented checking of constraints on "Wikidata property example" statements (phabricator:T183267)
  • Added link to the property's talk page to the constraint violation dialog to guide people there to discuss the constraint if necessary (phabricator:T164351)

• Monthly Tasks
  • Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
  • Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
  • Suggested and open tasks!
  • Contribute to a Showcase item.
  • Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
  • Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
  • Help write the next summary!

Read the full report · Unsubscribe · Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) 20:34, 8 January 2018 (UTC)