Wikidata:Property proposal/Iconography

iconography (attribute, symbol) edit

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Person

Done: iconographic symbol (P4185) (Talk and documentation)

Description	attributes or symbols associated with subject
Represents	saint symbolism (Q204231) but not exclusively
Data type	Item
Domain	instance of (P31) saint (Q43115), fictional character (Q95074), character that may or may not be fictional (Q21070598), legendary figure (Q13002315), artistic theme (Q2160811)
Allowed values	concrete object (Q17553950) or its subclasses
Example	Catherine of Alexandria (Q179718) → wheel (Q446), Zeus (Q34201) → thunderbolt (Q2794866)
Source	various
Planned use	to itemize the attributes associated with saints and legendary characters as included in artistic theme (Q2160811) and Iconclass notation (P1256)

Motivation

Just as we can recognize that a stick figure is supposed to be Indiana Jones by his hat and whip, people in earlier times recognized saints, heroes, and mythological figures by their associated attributes. This data is important in art history and in literature, and is included in Iconclass Notations. The EN description for Thor (Q42952) "hammer-wielding Nordic god associated with thunder" acknowledges the importance of the attribute in identifying Thor, but it would be nice to include "hammer" as a symbol of Thor in a structured way. - PKM (talk) 21:35, 13 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

User:Zolo
Jane023 (talk) 08:50, 30 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
User:Vincent Steenberg
User:Kippelboy
User:Shonagon
Marsupium (talk) 13:46, 18 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
GautierPoupeau (talk) 16:55, 9 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Multichill (talk) 19:13, 8 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Susannaanas (talk) 11:32, 12 August 2014 (UTC) I want to synchronize the handling of maps with this initiative[reply]
Mushroom (talk) 00:10, 24 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Jheald (talk) 17:09, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Spinster (talk) 15:16, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
PKM (talk) 21:16, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 17:12, 7 January 2015‎ (UTC)[reply]
Sic19 (talk) 21:12, 19 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Wittylama (talk) 13:13, 22 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Armineaghayan (talk) 08:40, 10 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Musedata102 (talk) 20:27, 26 November 2019 (UTC) Hannolans (talk) 18:36, 16 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
User:Martingggg
Zeroth (talk) 02:21, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
User:7samurais
User:mrtngrsbch
User:Buccalon
Infopetal (talk) 17:54, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Karinanw (talk) 16:38, 24 March 2020‎ (UTC)[reply]
Ahc84 (talk) 17:38, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
User:BeatrixBelibaste
Valeriummaximum
Bitofdust (talk) 22:52, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Mathieu Kappler
Zblace (talk) 07:22, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oursana (talk) 13:16, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ham II (talk) 08:30, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Notified participants of WikiProject Visual arts - PKM (talk) 21:40, 13 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support but I would call the property simply has attribute (the 'Iconography' label confuses me). Spinster 💬 21:45, 13 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
This property was proposed and created in August as iconographic symbol (P4185). Sorry! - PKM (talk) 22:10, 13 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support David (talk) 08:17, 14 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2, PKM: Done Created as iconographic symbol (P4185). ChristianKl (✉) 12:01, 14 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Notified participants of WikiProject Visual arts That's nice.

IMHO "Iconography" is used for artworks, see Iconclass (Q1502787), Getty Iconography Authority (Q43187601). Eg you have coding for "12 deeds of Hercules" (collectively and individually). To say those are in a painting, you'd use depicts Iconclass notation (P1257). --Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 16:43, 15 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]