Property talk:P11130

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Merriam-Webster online dictionary entry
identifier for an entry for a word in the Merriam-Webster online dictionary

Associated item	Merriam-Webster (Q585329), Merriam-Webster (Q585329)
Applicable "stated in" value	Merriam-Webster online dictionary (Q52055677)
Data type	External identifier
Allowed values	[A-Za-zÀ-ž0-9-\/\,\.\' \-\#]+
Example	no label (L4177) → let no label (L3674) → spoon#dictionary-entry-1 no label (L474913) → Greek no label (L337067) → germane no label (L44134) → 24/7
Source	https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary
Formatter URL	https://wikidata-externalid-url.toolforge.org/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.merriam-webster.com%2Fdictionary%2F%251&exp=%28.%2A%29&id=$1 https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/$1
Related to country	United States of America (Q30) (See 762 others)
See also	Oxford English Dictionary entry ID (pre-July 2023) (P5275), Collins Online English Dictionary entry (P11230), Dictionary.com entry (P11228), The Britannica Dictionary entry (P11263), Cambridge Dictionary entry (American English) (P11423), Cambridge Dictionary entry (British English) (P11422)
Lists	Items with the most statements of this property Count of items by number of statements (chart) Items with the most statements Items with the fewest statements Count of items by number of sitelinks (chart) Items with the most sitelinks Items with the most sitelinks, but no link to one Wikipedia (sample: Welsh Wikipedia, cywiki) Items with the fewest sitelinks Most linked wikis Items with the most identifier properties Items with no other external identifier Items with no other statements Most recently created items Items with novalue claims Items with unknown value claims Usage history (total) Usage history (main statement) Chart by item creation date Database reports/Constraint violations/P11130 Map Random list
Proposal discussion	Proposal discussion
Current uses	Total 1,922 Main statement 1,699 88.4% of uses Qualifier 5 0.3% of uses Reference 218 11.3% of uses
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[create Create a translatable help page (preferably in English) for this property to be included here]

Allowed entity types are Wikibase lexeme (Q51885771), Wikibase sense (Q54285715), Wikibase item (Q29934200), Wikibase form (Q54285143): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P11130#Entity types

Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as reference (Q54828450): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P11130#Scope, SPARQL

Format “[A-Za-zÀ-ž0-9\/\,\.\' \-\#]+”: value must be formatted using this pattern (PCRE syntax). (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P11130#Format, SPARQL

Lexeme language: English (Q1860): this property should only be applied to lexemes with these languages (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P11130#language

Words with only one entry (e.g., germane)

I'm not sure how to form the identifier for words in the dictionary that don't have more than one entry. For example: germane. The URL for this is https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/germane. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/germane#dictionary-entry resolves to the same page, and https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/germane#dictionary-entry-1 does as well, but puts you slightly lower on the page. Should the identifier for this be just "germane" or "germane#dictionary-entry"? UWashPrincipalCataloger (talk) 18:28, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

yes, I think it should just be 'germane'. Also, even in cases of multiple entries under the same page-level URL, as in 'let', I think it would be simpler for most Wikidatans to just type 'let' into the property value, even if it would not bring the reader exactly to the entry we wanted to link to, but require some scrolling.

Alternatively, trying to balance both needs, we might keep 'let' as the property value, but add a qualifier to the claim with the fragment (#) value. Then the URL formatter can construct a correct URL for both types of cases. Asaf Bartov (talk) 23:45, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

The # symbol in identifiers is causing links to fail

When you click on this identifier in the Lexeme items, the link fails. I think the # is causing this problem. UWashPrincipalCataloger (talk) 15:05, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

I looked into this. The identifier is stored with the raw hash-sign, but the links you get have url-coding. Some webservers or scripts don't handle this properly and causes problems. The hash-symbol is actually an HTML anchor, it points to the location of a paragraph on a webpage. I would suggest just ditching the hash-sign and everything after it, as it is not needed. But this is a major change so it will need support from the community. An alternative would be to use ArthurPSmith's tool to handle the redirection, this would be a drop-in replacement, but personally I prefer getting rid of the anchors, as they are used for navigation and probably can't be relied upon to be very stable. Infrastruktur (talk) 21:14, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

@Ijon, CristianCantoro, Infrastruktur, The-erinaceous-one, ArthurPSmith: Do you agree with Infrastruktur to just stop using the anchors, or should the redirection tool be employed to solve this issue? UWashPrincipalCataloger (talk) 21:27, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

See above. I think status quo is of course broken, and should be unbroken ASAP. I think expecting editors to figure out this technicality when filling values in would be frustrated by reality, so I point your attention to one of the two alternatives I proposed above. Asaf Bartov (talk) 23:47, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

It has been over a week now. Time to conclude? A "format as regex" statement should be added. Assuming we go with just the word, which characters are allowed? I'm going to add a preliminary one, feel free to update it as needed, or ask me to do it. Infrastruktur (talk) 18:31, 3 November 2022 (UTC)