Property talk:P6191

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Shisma in topic Useful for old-fashioned language?

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language style
to denote of the way a sense of a word is used, e.g., slang, vulgarism, babytalk, colloquialism, etc.
Representsregister (Q286576), style (Q2313235)
Data typeItem
Domainsenses (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
Allowed values
According to this template: (instances of register (Q286576), - there is not that many, and perhaps language variety (Q3329375)) Examples: baby talk (Q797886), slang (Q8102), colloquial language (Q901711), children's language (Q1741898), vulgarism (Q1521634), argot (Q3462602), jargon (Q17951), euphemism (Q83464), humorous (Q58233068), possibly "archaic", "formal", "dated", "obsolete"(?). ISO 12620 (Q5974188) defines several register (Q286576).
According to statements in the property:
When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Example (note: this information should be moved to a property statement; use property Wikidata property example (P1855), Wikidata property example for properties (P2271), Wikidata property example for lexemes (P5192), Wikidata property example for forms (P5193) or Wikidata property example for senses (P5977))
See alsofield of usage (P9488)
Lists
Proposal discussionProposal discussion
Current uses
Total14,701
Main statement12,59085.6% of uses
Qualifier2,10714.3% of uses
Reference4<0.1% of uses
Search for values
[create Create a translatable help page (preferably in English) for this property to be included here]
Allowed entity types are Wikibase sense (Q54285715), Wikibase form (Q54285143), Wikibase lexeme (Q51885771): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P6191#Entity types
Scope is as main value (Q54828448): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P6191#Scope, SPARQL
Scope is as qualifier (Q54828449): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P6191#Scope, SPARQL
None of formal language (Q192161): value must not be any of the specified items.
Replacement property:
Replacement values: (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P6191#none of, SPARQL

Extend domain to forms edit

I think we should extend the suggested use of this property to forms. At least in Danish (Q9035) there are some forms that have a certain P6191-ness. This is the case with a few modal verb (Q560570) which has a colloquial language (Q901711) form: ha, ka, ska, ku. have (L3828), skulle (L6387), kunne (L11269). — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 21:58, 25 November 2019 (UTC)Reply

I agree :)--So9q (talk) 22:54, 25 November 2019 (UTC)Reply
Yes, of course. Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 09:20, 26 November 2019 (UTC)Reply
Same goes for czech, so I support this. --Adrijaned (talk) 19:30, 26 November 2019 (UTC)Reply

Extend domain to qualifiers on usage examples edit

In the lexeme telegram channel we talked about starting to add this property to usage examples so that we can collect 4 types of examples per form: formal written, formal speech, informal written, informal speech. The two last ones would have to be from personal letters and recordings of people speaking IRL. WDYT about extending the domain to enable this?--So9q (talk) 07:46, 31 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

(I was in the channel discussing this.) I think this would be helpful. I also looked a little at what values the property uses today and I think many of them could also fit when used as qualifiers to usage examples like suggested. Ainali (talk) 07:50, 31 December 2020 (UTC)Reply
First edit with this qualifier used. Anyone else who has an opinion on the matter?--So9q (talk) 23:51, 5 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
  Support Sure. ArthurPSmith (talk) 18:21, 6 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
  Support (as in the channel). Ainali (talk) 14:52, 17 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for the support. I went ahead and implemented it.--So9q (talk) 07:39, 30 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Referencerestriction edit

Can someone add a reference restriction?--So9q (talk) 09:21, 12 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

Useful for old-fashioned language? edit

I used this property with old-fashioned (Q110161910). I wanted to imply that this language use is obsolete or that it would sound old fashioned. Do you have a better idea how to express this?– Shisma (talk) 17:32, 23 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

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