User talk:Aubrey/Archive 1

Welcome to Wikidata, Aubrey!

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Regards, --Jitrixis (talk | support my candidacy) 13:34, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

Wikidata:Project chat#Proposal: preventive control of imported data correctness

Ciao, si potrebbe avere qualche commento esperto sulla materia? Anche se alla fine è solo per qualche dato e non altri (cioè la nazionalità, ritenuta per oscuri motivi piú controversa del genere), l'intera pretesa di mettersi noi a verificare i dati a uno a uno mi sembra decisamente la riscoperta dell'acqua calda. A me pare che l'unico modo possibile di verificare gli errori sia di importare i dati di it.wiki, poi quelli di de.wiki, en.wiki ecc. quando si riesce e quelli di VIAF appena possibile... e lavorare sulle discrepanze che troviamo nel processo. Non è forse cosí? Credo che il consenso qui penda (ancora) da questa parte, ma conferme professionali aiuterebbero.

Altra cosa, non so quando Max prevedesse di importare i dati VIAF qui ecc., ma dice Tpt che non possiamo importare le date di nascita e morte in attesa delle magnifiche sorti e progressive (TimeValue): Wikidata:Property_proposal#Italian_Wikipedia_person_data. Questo significherebbe non avere la materia prima per nessun incrocio di dati, ma speriamo che siano davvero solo due mesi di attesa. --Nemo 07:34, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Bot/VIAFbot

Thanks for giving your input at Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Bot/VIAFbot. As suggestions started coming in, I thought it'd be nice to have a small IRC meeting planning the bot task specifics together. If you want to be a part of the meeting please fill out this doodle poll, and I'll set up the rest of the meeting. Tentative agenda:

• Which Authorities data to use
• What to do for Data Conflicts
• What should be written to Wikidata for maximum phase 2 re-use
• Programming details of the bot

Maximilianklein (talk) 19:50, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Re: Books task force

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Hi Aubrey, thanks for joining the IRC meeting. I just saw that there have been filed a RFD for Property:P107 (GND main types). Could you please take a look at Wikidata:Requests for deletions#Property:P107? I've got the impression some users don't know authority control and reject GND main types because they don't meet their high expectations of a classification system. Cheers --Kolja21 (talk) 00:54, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Re: Bot per ICCU

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Feedback

Hello, do you ahve any feedback from the IRC discussion with the development team from the 12. April ? Thanks Snipre (talk) 09:45, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

I think that sources are just the same kind of issue, but in bigger: you need to have much more granular metadata (articles, preprints, books, monographies, working papers, thesis, whatsoever), and I think the possibile entities counts in millions. Template:Cite_web, for example, is used 1367805 times... I think that the gain to have a proper system to store these metadata would be enormous, and whole academic community would give us eternal gratitude. But's something big and difficult, and I don't know if feasible... --Aubrey (talk) 10:43, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Sorry but it's stupid to import all metadata from books in Commons and Wikisource and to think that we will not do the same for all other books, newspaper, scientific article, media... For me there are only 2 options: we create for each manifestation an item or we create another database only for reference data storage and each time someone wants to source one statement we use a tool which import the whole set of data of the source into the source section (a link or an ID is not acceptable because we can't separate data and their references between different databases).

We facing 2 things: provide reliable data and this is only possible by sourcing with a complete data set for the reference, and reuse of reference data and this is possible only with a database. If Wikidata can't handle the storage of data for all books, articles, media,... we need to source the statements, we have to think about another database and tools to link wikidata and the reference database.

What I still miss are the technical or organisational reasons why we can't handle references with all bibliographic data in Wikidata. And if it is really an issue for wikidata we can stop here the development of wikidata because data without references including all bibliographic data are useless. So if you have any informations about why the development team has some reluctances to integrate all bibliographic data for references it could help us to choose a solution or simply decide that wikidata is not a solution for reliable data. Snipre (talk) 12:36, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

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I agree with all. So, if I understand it correctly, is just how to have these data in WD. Will we create an item for each source/edition/manifestation used (as reference or in Commons/WS)? Aubrey (talk) 14:03, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

I asked the development team about that but I think that if a source can be used more than once as reference for a claim we can create an item for a manifestation of a work. That will be the first step until the development team decides what to do with Wikisource and Common. Then I think we will find a consensus about how we can deal with data from commons and wikisource. That what I porpose to do. Snipre (talk) 16:15, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

ICCU

Hi Aubrey,

Would you have a look at the format question at Property talk:P396? You suggested the property some time ago. --  Docu  at 07:33, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Re: Update

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--Ricordisamoa 09:53, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

 Done --Ricordisamoa 07:38, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Books without authors

Hi Aubrey, I've just found your link to the To do list Books without authors. Thanks for this hint! It's a great help. Cheers --Kolja21 (talk) 15:33, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

RfC on Wikidata's primary sorting property

You recently participated in a deletion discussion for P107 - main type (GND). The discussion has been closed, as it is clear that a resolution won't come from PfD, and an RfC has been opened on the matter at Wikidata:Requests for comment/Primary sorting property. You are invited to participate there. Please note that this is a mass delivered message, and that I will not see any replies you leave on this page.

Yours, Sven Manguard Wha? 18:26, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

P727 (P727)

The property P727 (P727) that you supported is available now. Please help out by reviewing other people's proposals. --Tobias1984 (talk) 10:35, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

DPLA ID (P760)

The property DPLA ID (P760) that you supported is available now. Please help out by reviewing other people's proposals. --Tobias1984 (talk) 13:12, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Books task force

After seeing other TF, I thought that we needed a better design :) Btw, I have starting migrating the tables (first one done), if you want to do the others, go ahead! And no I'm not in that mailing list, maybe I will join.--Micru (talk) 20:52, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Wikisource is coming in 1 week!

Wikisource is coming in 1 week, on Tuesday, January 14! Preparations continue for the deployment at Wikidata:Wikisource.

We need your input in determining how Wikidata items will be created and used for each Wikisource page. Please join the discussion at Wikidata talk:Wikisource, and notify anyone who is interested in the discussion. --Rschen7754 08:55, 7 January 2014 (UTC) (using MassMessage)

Project invite

It would be great to have you at Wikidata:WikiProject Source MetaData! We seem to be focussing on academic articles, but see Discussion pages. HLHJ (talk) 13:00, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

Opere frammentarie e perdute

Mi potresti dare il tuo parere, anche da un punto di vista operativo, riguardo a Wikidata talk:WikiProject Books#Lost and fragmentary literary works? Grazie, --Epìdosis 22:15, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Ti sei scordato del mio messaggio? :) --Epìdosis 10:56, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

Grazie mille! Ma quando mai lo risolveremo 'sto problema di instance of (P31)book (Q571) e instance of (P31)literary work (Q7725634)? Ci sono altre discussioni in corso che non conosco? Cosa possiamo fare? --Epìdosis 12:35, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

Sto puntando a generare una discussione fra poco, se siamo fortunati oggi stesso. Io non conosco altri casi in cui si sta discutendo di questa cosa (anche fuori dal dominio dei libri). Mi spiego: ci sono altri casi che tu conosci in cui la instance of (P31) ha più statements nello stesso items? E' una cosa che voglio chiedere anche agli altri. Aubrey (talk) 12:48, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

Opera namespace on itws

Hi,

Where can I learn more about the itws Opera namespace? (like the scriptorium post and any discussion leading to the creation - and argument against so I can foresee what to expect if I suggest the same thing on frws ;) -, the technical and help pages, whatever that could help me to better understand the situation)

Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 09:05, 26 August 2016 (UTC)