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Je suis un Wikipédien français. Merci de me contacter sur fr:Discussion_Utilisateur:Vargenau.

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I am a French Wikipedian. Please contact me on fr:Discussion_Utilisateur:Vargenau.

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Ich bin ein französischer Wikipedia Benutzer. Bitte gehen Sie zu : fr:Discussion_Utilisateur:Vargenau.

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Merge pageEdit

Please use the merge tool [1] you can activate it in your gadget and check on, always merg to lowest ID and request deletion for extra item, thanks --Rippitippi (talk) 15:24, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

I agree, this tool would be very useful for you as you regularly merge pages. It is very easy to use. It is in your preferences, all you need to do is tick the box and save. Delsion23 (talk) 12:53, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
I will use it. I have now finished the pages clean-up. Vargenau (talk) 15:46, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Could you please use better reason than "empty"? Reason "Merged with [[XXXX]]" comes automatically when you merge pages using the merge tool. --Stryn (talk) 07:33, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Hello,

I did not use merge. I just add the interwiki to the page. The wiki software empties the wikidata page. This happens when there is only one interwiki. I have no means to know whether the page without interwiki has an associated wikidata page or not.

The wiki software should be improved to handle this case.

Best regards,

Vargenau (talk) 08:00, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Well, just deleting sitelink from Q2 and moving it to Q1 is also merging. It's faster and easier with the merge tool (in my opinion). Also, I would not like to delete pages with the reason "empty", because all pages can be empty if sitelinks are deleted, so it's not so good reason for delete pages, regards, --Stryn (talk) 08:21, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Hello,

Please re-read my previous answer. I did not delete the link. The wiki software did.

Best regards,

Vargenau (talk) 08:35, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Merging itemsEdit

For merging items, you can try the following tool: Merge.js gadget. It makes it much easier to do, and easier for the admins to check and follow up your nominations. -Cycn (talk) 09:53, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Hello,

I use the Merge.js when needed.

But the most current case is the following:

  • I see a page without interwikis. I cannot know if there a wikidata page associated.
  • I add a page with interwikis.

The wiki software will clean the wikidata page if it exists.

Best regards,

Vargenau (talk) 12:48, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

I check the history of the item and merge it into its new item. But I see, you never removed the item from the entry you are nominating. That explains. Cycn (talk) 15:06, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Duplicate entriesEdit

Even though you've been pointed before to the merge gadget you still do edits like this and subsequently this. You should have deleted the sitelink at Chaumont (Q193880) and then merged the other entry in. Mbch331 (talk) 21:35, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

Libellé et aliasEdit

Bonjour,

Je vois que tu as modifié quelques libellés d'odonymes pour changer la typographie. C'est plutôt une bonne chose, par contre, il ne faut pas supprimer les alias, ceux-ci sont utiles pour faciliter la navigation et la recherche.

Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 08:50, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

Bonjour,

Je suis d'accord que les alias sont utiles. Mais je ne vois vraiment pas l'intérêt d'alias avec juste une différence de casse ou de traits d'union. Le moteur de recherche ne fera pas la différence et ça ne fait qu'alourdir.

Cordialement,

Vargenau (talk) 08:55, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

Malheureusement (ou pas) si, les moteurs de recherches font la différence... Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 09:10, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
Tu peux donner un exemple ? Vargenau (talk) 09:19, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
Oui, le moteur de recherche interne de Wikidata pour commencer.
Si tu tapes « rue Victor Hugo » ou bien « rue Victor-Hugo » tu obtiens des résultats différents et non-sécants lors de l'auto-complétion (lors de la recherche complète par contre les résultats sont identiques). Or c'est cette recherche auto-complétée qui est utilisé pour ajouter une valeur à une propriété dans un élément. Par exemple, si je veux ajouter located on street (P669) = rue Victor-Hugo (Q8226) sur un élément et que j'écris « rue Victor Hugo » (sans trait d'union, bien qu'incorrect cela reste la graphie la plus couramment utilisée) il est impossible d'ajouter rue Victor-Hugo (Q8226).
De plus, la trait d'union est parfois diacritique (Île-aux-Moines (Q71356) et île aux Moines (Q3593280)) et dans ces cas-là, les alternatives en alias sont plutôt malvenues. Mais généralement, les deux graphies désignent le même concept et sont assez également utilisée.
Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 10:42, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

petits prophètes de la BibleEdit

There are separate data items for the prophets (people) and the books they wrote. The books have a sequence, but the people did not live in the same order.

You have been numbering the prophets (people), which doesn't really make sense, as these people did not prophesy in that order. --EncycloPetey (talk) 14:50, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Hi,

I did not invent it.

If you read the French 12 articles on these prophets, you will see that they all start with a sentence like "Sophonie (צְפַנְיָה en hébreu) est le neuvième des douze petits prophètes de la Bible".

Best regards,

Vargenau (talk) 14:56, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

GPL-2.0 is unusualEdit

Bonjour, j'attire votre attention sur : https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Talk:Q10513450. Au plaisir d'en discuter avec vous :-) Dachary (talk) 14:36, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

PrénomsEdit

Bonjour Vargenau,

Sur WikiProject Names, il y a une intro sur le modèle choisi pour les prénoms. En bref, on a des entités séparés pour chaque orthographe et on les distingue des entités pour les homonymes. Parfois les liens vers les sites ne correspondent pas et on les déplace sur les bons entités.
--- Jura 18:30, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

MortimerEdit

You merged Mortimer (Q18822560) with Mortimer family (Q3065370). However a family and a last name are two different concepts and shouldn't be merged. I undid the merge, but in the future please check that the items are the same concept when merging. Mbch331 (talk) 10:59, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

OrthographeEdit

Salut,

Je viens de tomber sur Special:Diff/476282712 et Special:Diff/476281280. Je viens de corriger (une croix est bien un nom féminin), je ne sais pas ce qui s'est passé ou si tu as fait d'autres erreurs du même genre, je te laisse vérifier.

Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 11:50, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

Bonjour,

Je devais être fatigué ce jour-là. Apparemment ce sont les seuls cas. Merci de me l'avoir signalé.

Cordialement,

Vargenau (talk) 12:06, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

Pas de problème (hier encore, je me suis mélangé entre libellé et description dans mon script, j'ai dû me réverter 17 éléments...).
Oui, l'idée c'était de vérifier que d'autres éléments n'était pas touché. Merci d'avoir regardé.
Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 13:21, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

Natural number vs nonnegative integerEdit

Hi! They are not the same. Whether the set of natural numbers equals to the set of the nonnegative integers ( ) or the set of the positive integers ( ) is up to definition, and mathematicians can’t decide on the matter; some use the former, some the latter. (The former might be more common nowadays, but still not the only one.) Please revert this merge and your related edits. Thanks in advance, —Tacsipacsi (talk) 23:50, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello,
You mean we need an entry for ℕ, an entry for ℕ* and an entry for "we do not know if it is ℕ or ℕ*" ?
Regards,
Vargenau (talk) 07:10, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
Sort of. English Wikipedia article en:Natural number#Notation defines   or   as the unambiguous notation that includes zero and leaves   ambiguous, as it is indeed, so the three entities we need is non-negative numbers ( ), positive numbers ( ) and natural numbers, up to interpretation ( ). —Tacsipacsi (talk) 12:32, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
This is strange, I have never heard of ℕ being ambiguous. For Bourbaki, ℕ includes 0.
I am French, and in French the words "positive" and "negative" have a slightly different meaning than in English.
"positif" (positive) means >= 0
For > 0, we say "strictement positif" (strictly positive)
Same for "négatif".
Regards,
Vargenau (talk) 13:00, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
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