Wikidata:Requests for deletions/Archive/2018/04/15

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Q1664886

Q1664886: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

De-article was deleted. --Dandelo (talk) 23:49, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Deleted by HakanIST (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 06:10, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Q47460060

Q47460060: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Created by a crosswiki spammer to promote his business/career. Green Giant (talk) 00:31, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

On hold This item is linked from 1 other. --DeltaBot (talk) 00:40, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Deleted by HakanIST (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 06:10, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Q51848862

Q51848862: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Empty, no notability NewDataB (talk) 18:07, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Deleted by HakanIST (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 06:20, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Q51846273

Q51846273: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Empty, no notability NewDataB (talk) 18:09, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Deleted by HakanIST (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 06:20, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Q51844673

Q51844673: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Empty, no notability NewDataB (talk) 18:10, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Deleted by HakanIST (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 06:20, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Q51864192

Q51864192: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Doesn't meet the notability policy Kostas20142 (talk) 20:53, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Deleted by HakanIST (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 06:20, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Q49348803

Dunlevy (Q49348803): borough of Pennsylvania: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Merged with Q1134711 --91.159.152.45 04:28, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Done Redirect created by HakanIST, you can do it yourself next time. --DeltaBot (talk) 06:20, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Q33084328

Hi ! It appeared to me recently that someone created a page about me on Wikidata last year : Clément Salviani (Q33084328)

The problem is that :

I do not reach any requirement to be on any kind of Wiki, I'm totally unknown, only a PHD student with twitter and two blogs, a Flickr gallery and I'm not famous in any possible way. Wikidata does not need me, at all, I can ensure you ^^
It appears that the creator and main contributor of my page LOVES to add a LOT LOT LOT too much - private - informations on Wikidata pages he creates (birthdates without sources, former husbands or wives, etc.), very often about persons he is in "conflict" with (or on French wikipédia, or intellectually in general, considering he loves to contribute on far right matters etc.). This kind of way to record my life and digital identity on wikidata is... Creepy and scary, and looks like some forme of soft harassment potential for trolls, also. I would like to ask if it was possible to delete this page, that, I promise, is not of any interest for human knowledge. Cordially, best regards, "bien à vous" et respectueusement as we say in French.

--C.Salviani (talk) 21:05, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

See also Wikidata:Administrators' noticeboard#Cannot understand why on earth I'm on Wikidata ?; I've suggested centralising discussion here. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:16, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

The entry about you, created in July 2017‎, does not include "birthdates without sources, former husbands or wives, etc." You appear to have a minor public profile through inclusion on theses.fr. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:18, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi ! When I talked about birthdates, etc. it was nos especially about me, but about other persons the contributor created here. But, I do not understand why this wikidate pages exists on me. Theses.fr is the official record for PHD candidates, I gave my consent to have this profile on theses.fr, it is quite ok for me to have a profile on theses.fr because it includes only my name and my workfield, and few informations about science. BUT, this profile does not include personal links to photo galleries i never linked / talked about in my PHD candidate profile, nor my twitter account, nor my hypotheses.org blog all gathered like on my wikidata ! This is quite different ! Moreover, I am faaaaar from eligible for any Wiki page ? Like, I'm totally no one ? This is scary to me. --C.Salviani (talk) 21:44, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

You should not be making accusations about unverified additions, and especially not of serious issues such as harassment and political bias, without substantiating them. Regarding the criteria for inclusion on Wikidata, you may also wish to consider WD:N. Are there any specific statements on the item in question which you feel are not public, or are in error? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:13, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

I did not do any direct accusations : I talked about "troll harassment potential", which is a very fair statement : if all my social profiles and pages are linked on Wikidata even though I'm an absolute nobody, without any notoriety, I have to wonder why it has been done, and I have to wonder what harm it may cause to me. Regarding the notability : my page does NOT fulfill some structural need. I am not quoted or present on any Wiki as a page. Even though I might be a "clearly identifiable conceptual or material entity". "The entity must be notable" is not fulfilled, in the sense that i cannot be described using serious and publicly available references, except for my name in a central file about PDH candidates in France. The user that created me cannot abuse of Wikidata by entering in this database any person with his name on internet ! He even made a wikidata page for every person subscribing to an association ! https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Q2985404&limit=500 Wikidata is not a government database, it is not here to record any opinion, personal engagement, activity of persons, it is here to integrate useful datas about persons existing on other wikis. I'm astonished here, I have to say. --C.Salviani (talk) 07:55, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

"I did not do any direct accusations" Yes you do; quite plainly, at the top of this section. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 08:23, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

No, I don't : "looks like some forme of soft harassment potential for trolls" is what I would call a supposition, as "looks like" and "potential" suggest the conditional tone. I'm trying to expose the explanation that exists - to me - for a person do include on a Wikidata page about me, a nobody, different informations about my social profiles without any sources, in no relevant purpose regarding any wiki projects. I do not say "this persons do it for this purpose", I say "It appears to me that this is the most probable aim / goal of that, or, a major possible output that appears to me". Do you have - please - any other explanation for this (i.e. : linking my social profiles on a wikidata page about a 1000% minor person, just a random PHD candidate with a blog), regarding the fact that it is not the first time this user is exposed for the same kind of thing ? --C.Salviani (talk) 08:44, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

So who, if not you, wrote "It appears that the creator and main contributor of my page LOVES to add a LOT LOT LOT too much - private - informations on Wikidata pages he creates (birthdates without sources, former husbands or wives, etc.), very often about persons he is in "conflict" with (or on French wikipédia, or intellectually in general, considering he loves to contribute on far right matters etc.)."? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:59, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

These are facts. Simple and basic facts that anyone can easily find by consulting constributions list of this user, by combining chronology and by looking for previous cases around the same user (for example : https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Talk:Q20742516 Pro Patria Semper = Nomen Ad Hoc). Basic, simple, facts. And these facts may exist for a reason. I provide a potential explanation. I would love you to prove me wrong, and I would love you to provide another explanation for this. You can see below that VIGNERON talks about the behaviour of this person as frequent and observed. MisterSynergy did exactly the same, about the same person, for the same case. I am astonished that several times you focus on taking parts of my initial message, misunderstanding the hypothetical nature of the interpretation I provide, neglecting the problem about adding personal informations with no sources about me, considering my total absence of notability, and, moreover, refusing to dig the facts and history of contributions of the user I talk about to check my claim. Scary. --C.Salviani (talk) 10:07, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

To reiterate: "You should not be making accusations without substantiating them". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:36, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

To reiterate : you should not be making misguided interpretations of my hypothesis about the origins of my wikidata page, hypothesis that is not the base of my request, but a surrounding attempt of explanation ; the core of my request is that, as other contributors said below, my wikidata page is probably eligible to deletion because of a very weak notability, absence of links in any other wiki projects, etc. ; will you refuse to act in any possible direction just because of what you think to be "accusations", neglectings the real motivation of the request ? Is that a strange way to ask me to reformulate all my request to "fit" something more "gentle" ? --C.Salviani (talk) 11:15, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

(in French) Bonjour C.Salviani, contrairement à ce que tu sembles penser, avec plusieurs identifiants dans des bases de données extérieures, tu entres assez clairement dans les critères de notabilité de Wikidata (cf. le points 2 de Wikidata:Notability/fr). Quant au contributeur dont tu parles, certes il est conflictuel et il va parfois un peu loin dans le rassemblement d'informations mais ce sont bien des informations publiques et publiées qu'il rassemble, techniquement il est dans les clous. Je suis disponible pour en discuter plus avant si tu le souhaites (et par le moyen de communication de ton choix). Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 07:56, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Bonjour VIGNERON : je trouve étrange, voire effrayant, cette disposition consistant à m'entrer dans Wikidata alors que mon nom, ma fiche, mes données, ne servent dans aucun article de la galaxie Wiki. La donnée structurée est parfaitement inutile ici, elle est superfétatoire, excessive, et surtout, je le pense, fondée sur une forme de malveillance : rassembler ces informations ne relève d'aucune forme de sourçage de qualité (il n'y a aucune page de synthèse qui résume mon profil twitter, flickr, etc.), mais seulement du traçage libre que cet individu fait de moi et d'autres personnes via google. C'est assez inquiétant, ce "laisser-faire", sans compter que cela ressemble tout simplement à un fichage personnel tout à fait orienté et forcené. Quel moyen de communication suggérez vous ? Cdlt --C.Salviani (talk) 08:09, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

C.Salviani je comprends que cela paraisse effrayant mais par sa nature, Wikidata se doit de rassembler bien plus d'informations que ce que contiennent les autres projets Wikimédia. Par exemple, à terme, Wikidata contiendra sans doute toutes les publications du monde et aura donc logiquement besoin de renseigner tout les auteurs aussi. Pour le moyen de communication, peu m'importe, j'ai tenté un réseau social où nous sommes "amis" depuis quelques mois mais ce peut-être un autre moyen, peu me chaut. Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 08:15, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

VIGNERON D'accord pour considérer que WD rassemble des infos auteur : mon carnet hypothèses, admettons, ma thèse, pourquoi pas, après tout, j'espère pouvoir un jour avoir d'autres infos à ajouter en tant que chercheur. Mais mon twitter ? Mon flickr ? Mon skyblog du collège aussi tant qu'on y est ? Les associations auxquelles j'adhère ? Les pétitions que je signe ? Les postes facebook sur lesquels je suis tagué ? Ma mère ? Mon frère ? Leurs blogs ? Nan c'est absurde ! Je n'ai pas vu de notification de votre part, peut être l'ai-je manquée dans le flot... Lancez-moi un message privé ma boite est ouverte ;) ! --C.Salviani (talk) 08:25, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

For the records, we had an off-wikidata discussion. Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 10:29, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

We have had a similar case last year: item Q33820187 (deleted), RfD section, related topic on my talk page, related topic at WD:PC. The item in question had also been created by User:Nomen ad hoc based on the French PhD student register. After some discussion I deleted the item since it was not in use (thus nothing broke down), and I lean to vote Delete in this case as well in spite of the identifiers which formally establish notability for Wikidata. —MisterSynergy (talk) 08:19, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for this message !!! I'm indeed a relatively unknown person, my wikidata page is not in any use on any wikisite, and I have a very weak notability (only a PHD student like thousands of person every year ?). --C.Salviani (talk) 09:00, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Leaning towards Delete after some consideration and talking with the person whose item is discussed ; and per MisterSynergy. Technically, this item is acceptable per WD:N but this is borderline (the BnF identifier only exist as author of a blog, no offense to you CS, so this is kind of a weak notability in this case). The fact that the person ask for himself is tricky, we can't just delete because someone asks (eg. if a very notable person ask, deletion is not an option) but in this particular case, I think we should follow the request. Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 10:29, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

I assume Nomen ad hoc did not have any malicious intentions when creating that item - it is reasonably common for academics to use Twitter and other social networks as part of their professional activities so I am not shocked by that sort of connection. I think it is also fine for C.Salviani to delete the unsourced claims he do not want to see there. If he does not want to be listed in Wikidata at all I guess we should delete the item, so I vote to Delete too. − Pintoch (talk) 14:08, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Neutral Potentiellement admissible mais assez d'accord pour la suppression. Par contre, la situation n'excuse en rien l'attitude de C.Salviani que se soit ici, sur la PDD de Vigneron ou sur Twitter. --Shev123 (talk) 20:53, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
Je pense que si, mon attitude est justifiée. On parle de plusieurs années de cette pratique, concrètement anxiogène et superfétatoire, slalomant sur la limite de la légalité et des recommandations de WP / WikiFonda, surfant dans le tube flou de la jeunesse réglementaire de Wikidata, et ayant généré autour des contribs de NAH un nombre clairement signifiant, significatif, et incontestable de conflits quant aux informations personnelles que cet utilisateur se plait à compiler. La colère est justifiée, totalement. La nécessité d'une réaction forte est totalement normale. Qu'on discute de la vivacité du ton me semble opportun dans un deuxième voire troisième temps, quand le conflit est résolu et que les agissements de cette personne sont circonscrits, interrompus, et sanctionnés d'une façon où d'une autre. Par ailleurs NAH vient de prendre une RA sur Wikipédia pour une répétition d'attaques personnelles, je pense qu'il n'y a pas de fumée sans feu. Bien à vous. --C.Salviani (talk) 12:53, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
Delete - as long as not need for bibliographical reference. If this person was the author of a published work or article, source for a wp article, though, it would obviously be re-created. Addition of personal social accounts seems totally superfluous as this person does not use them for public information. Please, C.Salviani, note that info publicly available on public libraries authority records (like BNF, Sudoc, Theses.fr, etc.) cannot be considered "private". If you want it to not be used, please ask them to remove it from your notice. --Hsarrazin (talk) 13:41, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
Thx for your post ! I totally agree with your point : as far as I'm not author of any book, peer reviewed article, and that I don't have any wiki article about me (I'm just a 27 y.o PHD candidate and history / archaeology teacher !), this Wikidata page is superfluous. I also agree : when I will be recognized as an author, etc. etc., considering that indeed, authority records from libraries are public, it's totally ok and fine to have this Wikidata page, but, again, as you said, my social profiles are not to be here. I personnally removed these informations about social profiles, as a preventive action. (sorry for my english haha). Txh again and have a good day :) ! --C.Salviani (talk) 13:55, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Deleted by Pasleim (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 15:40, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi, @Pasleim, @VIGNERON, this page has been recreated since. Is it possible to delete it again ? Nothing has changed about it. Nothing. But the contributor seems determined to creepily document my whole life, social media accounts, etc. without any source. C.Salviani (talk) 17:12, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

Bonjour @C.Salviani: en fait l'élément n'a jamais été supprimé et la demande a été archivée (en conservation par défaut). Il faudrait relancer une nouvelle demande de suppression (voir faire une requête sur Wikidata:Administrators' noticeboard), les admins ne regardent sans doute plus cette page. Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 19:10, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

Comment cela peut-il être possible que @Pasleim déclare la suppression mais qu'aucun admin ne procède à celle-ci ? C'est fou ! C.Salviani (talk) 21:40, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

Q51879463

Q51879463: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Out of project scope, doesn't meet the notability policy Kostas20142 (talk) 11:32, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Deleted by Pasleim (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 15:40, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Q51879529

Q51879529: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Doesn't meet the notability policy Kostas20142 (talk) 11:39, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Deleted by Pasleim (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 15:40, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Q51879545

Q51879545: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Patent nonsense Kostas20142 (talk) 12:52, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Deleted by Pasleim (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 15:40, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Bulk deletion request

Q7843730 (delete | history | links | logs)
Q6897183 (delete | history | links | logs)
Q7785961 (delete | history | links | logs)
Q4734417 (delete | history | links | logs)
Q7669538 (delete | history | links | logs) (all on TAB)

Items for a rapper without external identifiers and not descriped in external sources (there seems to be a youtube-channel, but I could not find anything about him using google that indicates some notability), his three albums (none with identifiers) and his record label. All items had sitelinks to articles in the English Wikipedia that were deleted because of missing significance. Valentina.Anitnelav (talk) 15:27, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Done --Pasleim (talk) 17:05, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Q3925741

Punta Open (Q3925741): tennis tournament: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

This item is now orphan because I already moved Italian and Spanish links to the itemid Punta Open (Q47487928) --Carlo58s (talk) 10:45, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

On hold This item is linked from 7 others. --DeltaBot (talk) 10:50, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Done Redirect created by Pasleim, you can do it yourself next time. --DeltaBot (talk) 17:01, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Q12459980

Q12459980: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Empty. Hindust@ni^{क्या करें? बातें!} 16:32, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Deleted by Pasleim (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 17:01, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Q2353046

Q2353046: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Empty. Hindust@ni^{क्या करें? बातें!} 16:32, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Deleted by Pasleim (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 17:01, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Q12460435

Q12460435: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Empty. Hindust@ni^{क्या करें? बातें!} 16:33, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Deleted by Pasleim (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 17:01, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Q3686169

Q3686169: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Split into two
--- Jura 12:58, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Deleted by Pasleim (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 17:10, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Q42265049

Q42265049: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

No sitelinks, references or identifiers, not used on other items Valentina.Anitnelav (talk) 13:52, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Deleted by Pasleim (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 17:10, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Q50824167

Q50824167: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

No external identifiers, no references, just a "structural need" for being the one-year-old child of the cofounder of some company Valentina.Anitnelav (talk) 14:39, 14 April 2018 (UTC)