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--Titodutta (talk) 20:44, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

source for ORCID?

I think the identifiers for Q457312 might be wrong. Could you give me your source or comments on the talk page? Thanks, Masao (talk) 07:04, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

The citation is on the statement itself. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:12, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

hmmm. How do you determine http://www.researcherid.com/rid/C-7753-2015 is the same person? This might be another person with the same name. --Masao (talk) 14:32, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

How good is your German?

de:Wikipedia:WLM-Wikidata-Editathon 2017 Agathoclea (talk) 17:03, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

{{#babel:en|en-GB-N|de-0}} Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:33, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

Proposal waiting

Hello Andy,

please have a look at this proposal. It's the same as this but affects an other German state - and is waiting since one whole week. Plese tell me, if something is wrong whis my proposal. Thanks --Quarz (talk) 11:20, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

@Quarz: It lacks an English description (it only has one in German) so most people will not be able to understand it. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:56, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

Same for the label on protected cultural heritage monument in Bremen (state) (Q31948690), which is given as the |domain=. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:57, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! Hoping it's better now I ask you for another try. --Quarz (talk) 13:29, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

@Quarz: Good work - I'm happy to support that now. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:35, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

Many thanks!! --Quarz (talk) 14:45, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

New property proposal: I need help

Hi Andy! I create property proposal. As you can see, I'm not able to complete the parameter "allowed units". Can you help me? Thanks! --Yiyi .... (talk!) 13:23, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

I replied there. Happy to help. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:33, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

Legal aspects of data donations

Hey Andy! IIRC you are organizing data donations to Wikidata occasionally. I have no idea how exactly the process is, but I imagine that you convince some organization to donate data in the very beginning, and then the they hand over a “data file” (whatever it looks like) to you and allows you or us to import it to Wikidata. How do you make sure that copyright aspects are dealt with properly? Does the “data file” already include a permissive, compatible license such as CC0, or does the donor also give you a written permission for the import? Do you make use of OTRS or something similar? I’m asing because there is another editor asking for such a process, and nobody is really able to tell them what to do due to the complex nature of database rights. If you are aware of any useful help pages, please point to them as well. Thanks and regards! MisterSynergy (talk) 07:53, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

@MisterSynergy: To the best of my knowledge, none of the data imported in this way, as a result of my efforts at least, has been copyrightable; nor come from a territory where database rights apply. In some cases the donating organisation uploads the data themselves. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:20, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

mass creation of obvious Q5, omitting P31...

When you mass import data from a biographical source, like Q28322085, please, do not forget to add P31:Q5 ! --Hsarrazin (talk) 12:16, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

Label in English

Hi,

I see that you added the English label "département archives" on departmental archives (Q2860456) but wouldn't "departmental archives" be a better label? I'm not sure, it seems there if a wide variety of translation but this one seems to be the more common on according to this website and like on en:Departmental archives of Doubs, what do you think?

Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 17:42, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

That was over two years ago. I therefore have no recollection of those edits. Your change seems sensible, please go ahead and make it. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:18, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

Thank you, I'll do it to harmonize all 100 departmental archives then. Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 08:50, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

Q23413

Hello.Is not Q29637965 information suitable for Q23413?Thank you ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2 (talk) 15:23, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

No. OSM includes in that definition things for which we have separate items, such as French châteaux. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:36, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

Q39952591

Hello Andy. This is Alex, the owner and founder of Abridged Pause Apparel. I thought that it would be easier to resolve this amicably and in a mature conversation instead of the limited amount of space I have to write out the details of the corrections when making changes. In 2008 I founded several companies under the name of "Abridged Pause"; Abridged Pause Recordings, Abridged Pause Publishing, Abridged Pause Apparel, Abridged Pause Blog, Abridged Pause Publication, and a couple more which are not as active anymore. Rather than create several different social media profiles and websites for all these companies, which are very closely intertwined and more like divisions of the same head company, I decided to use the same website and social media pages for all the companies and divisions. That's why all the links are simply "abridgedpause". The website, the Facebook page, the Google+ Page, the Twitter page, the Tumblr Page, and so on are all simply url-ed "abridgedpause" so that I can keep them all connected and only need to post once. To help you understand why, let me give you an example. All these companies are dealing with the same topics. For example, I release a "Vision Éternel" album through Abridged Pause Recordings, it's copyrighted through Abridged Pause Publishing, the music videos are produced through Abridged Pause Productions, the news are posted on Abridged Pause Blog, and the t-shirts are made through Abridged Pause Apparel. It's all music-related and always for the same bands. So it would make no sense to have different social pages for each of those companies because that would alienate my fanbase, and when I'm releasing material that is so closely related, it's easier for fans and followers to see it all in one place. That's why the generic "abridgedpause" pages are purposely for all the Abridged Pause companies. Even my Wikidata username is only "abridgedpause". I hope that this helps to explain it and that you understand why those social media links are valid for Abridged Pause Apparel. If you want to talk some more, please email me at alex@abridgedpause.com. I hope you have a wonderful day. Abridged Pause (Abridged Pause); Abridged Pause 11:33, 26 September 2017 (ETC)

I already understand all this, having examined the items in question before editing them; but it's not the correct data model. All the other "AP" items are shown as subsidiaries of Q39952796, and it is on that item (if anywhere) that such accounts belong. Scattergunning them across all the items is not only bad data modelling, but also seems very spammy. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:52, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

Update: The items in question have been deleted and User:AbridgedPause is blocked. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:31, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Talk:Q131734

Can I ask you to participate in Talk:Q131734? I don't think the current situation is very clear. Sjoerd de Bruin (talk) 20:48, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

Property:P3560

Previously you showed that we marked that an identifier no longer works because the website is no longer extant. Can you show me in this property where that information is stored? It must be somewhere because it no longer forms a link, and the Wikipedia article notes it is no longer a working website. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 17:15, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

@Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ): You refer to College Football Data Warehouse ID (P3560). Its formatter URL (P1630) is marked as "deprecated". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:30, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

I see it now, thanks! --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 17:35, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

SNAC ID

Moved to Property talk:P3430#Formatter URL & ID type, so that others will find it more easily, in future. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:55, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

Q33082919

Can you merge Q33082919 with Q33082442; and merge Q20669522 with Q33082485. The still deleted ones were recreations of deleted items, that again got deleted. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 21:30, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

@Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ): Not technically possible. You'll need to ask an admin to recreate, then merge, them. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:38, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Articles repeater for Wikipedia articles

Hello.Is it acceptable to create properties for websites consist of articles taken from Wikipedia (examples: Arabic-Portuguese)?Thank you David (talk) 16:46, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

If they have Wikipedia articles, as your first example does, then they meet our notability requirement. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:52, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

Charlie

Is the label, therefore not required in the alias column for French.

All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 11:13, 16 October 2017 (UTC).

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Structured Commons newsletter, October 25, 2017

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Community updates

• Rama published an article about Structured Commons in Arbido, a Swiss online magazine for archivists, librarians and documentalists: original in French, illustrated and the article translated in English.
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Audience at Structured Commons design discussion, Wikimania 2017

• Structured Data on Commons was presented at Wikimania 2017 in Montréal for a packed room. First design sketches for search functionality were discussed during a breakout session. Read the Etherpad reports of the presentation and the breakout session.
• Katherine Maher, Executive Director of the Wikimedia Foundation, answered questions on Quora. One of her answers, mentioning Structured Data on Commons, was republished on Huffington Post.
• Sandra Fauconnier, Amanda Bittaker and Ramsey Isler from the Structured Commons team will be at WikidataCon. Sandra presents Structured Commons there (with a focus on fruitful collaboration between the Wikidata and Commons communities). If you attend the conference, don't hesitate to say hi and have a chat with us! (phabricator task T176858)

Team updates

The Structured Commons team at Wikimania 2017

Two new people have been hired for the Structured Data on Commons team. We are now complete! :-)

• Ramsey Isler is the new Product Manager of the Multimedia team.
• Pamela Drouin was hired as User Interface Designer. She works at the Multimedia team as well, and her work will focus on the Structured Commons project.

Partners and allies

• We are still welcoming (more) staff from GLAMs (Galleries, Libraries, Archives and Museums) to become part of our long-term focus group (phabricator task T174134). You will be kept in the loop of the project, and receive regular small surveys and requests for feedback. Get in touch with Sandra if you're interested - your input in helping to shape this project is highly valued!

Research

Design research is ongoing.

• Jonathan Morgan and Niharika Ved have held interviews with various GLAM staff about their batch upload workflows and will finish and report on these in this quarter. (phabricator task T159495)
• At this moment, there is also an online survey for GLAM staff, Wikimedians in Residence, and GLAM volunteers who upload media collections to Wikimedia Commons. The results will be used to understand how we can improve this experience. (phabricator task T175188)
• Upcoming: interviews with Wikimedia volunteers who curate media on Commons (including tool developers), talking about activities and workflows. (phabricator task T175185)

Development

In Autumn 2017, the Structured Commons development team works on the following major tasks (see also the quarterly goals for the team):

• Getting Multi-Content Revisions sufficiently ready, so that the Multimedia and Search Platform teams can start using it to test and prototype things.
• Determine metrics and metrics baseline for Commons (phabricator task T174519).
• The multimedia team at WMF is gaining expertise in Wikibase, and unblocking further development for Structured Commons, by completing the MediaInfo extension for Wikibase.

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AR Wiki contacts in Wikidata

Hey Andy, I just want to inform you that I added your name as a member of our team! And I gave you back reviewer rights in ARWIKI --Helmoony (talk) 06:31, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

@Helmoony: That's an honour; thank you. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:43, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

Thank you (and a question)

Hello Andy,

Thank you for the welcome :) I have started helping out by reverting vandalism, and have noticed that most of these are drive-by edits. How would you deal with a user that is being persistently disruptive, though? I'm used to the en-WP approach of escalating warnings and reports to AIV, but I'm not sure what would be the appropriate etiquette here. Thank you for your help! –FlyingAce^✈hello 21:13, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

@FlyingAce: Raise the matter on Wikidata:Administrators' noticeboard. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:40, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

Property proposal/MuIS ID

Hi!

I'm not too sure how many opinions or support votes are required before I can mark Wikidata:Property_proposal/MuIS_ID as ready, and you seemed like a good person to ask :) So, do you think it is ready, or should I try to get more support (and if so, how?) --Reosarevok (talk) 17:11, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

@Reosarevok: I have marked it as ready. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:21, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

Your proposals

Hello. Thank you for your proposals. The items at the beginning of the "Motivation" should be used in "subject item". Thank you David (talk) 10:18, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

No, they shouldn't. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:20, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

It's useful. See Translations:Wikidata:Property proposal/Proposal preload/13/en David (talk) 12:14, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

Which says "item corresponding to the concept represented by the property, if applicable; ". In none of my recent proposals does that hold true. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:39, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

For example: a link to Q29568422 is useful for Wikidata:Property proposal/Wikitribune category.Thank you David (talk) 13:10, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

I know it's "useful", that's why I mentioned it. It is not, though, an "item corresponding to the concept represented by the property". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:18, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

The terms

Hello.Please help here.Thank you David (talk) 17:28, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

Structured Commons focus group update, Nov 21, 2017

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FoodEx2

Just hoping that the British food standard authority will keep EU ids despite Brexit ;-) Teolemon (talk) 20:37, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

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Structured Commons newsletter, December 13, 2017

Welcome to the newsletter for Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons! You can update your subscription to the newsletter. Do inform others who you think will want to be involved in the project!

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Things to do / input and feedback requests

A multi-licensed image on Wikimedia Commons, with a custom {{EthnologyItemMHNT}} Information template. Do you also know media files on Commons that will be interesting or challenging to model with structured data? Add them to the Interesting Commons files page.

• NEW: Participate in a survey that helps us prioritize which tools are important for the Wikimedia Commons and Wikidata communities. The survey runs until December 22. Here's some background.
• NEW: Help the team decide on better names for 'captions' and 'descriptions'. You can provide input until January 3, 2018.
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Presentation about Structured Commons and Wikidata, at WikimediaCon in Berlin.

• Sandra presented the plans for Structured Commons during WikidataCon in Berlin, on October 29. The presentation focused on collaboration between the Wikidata and Commons communities. You can see the full video here.

Partners and allies

• We are still welcoming (more) staff from GLAMs (Galleries, Libraries, Archives and Museums) to become part of our long-term focus group (phabricator task T174134). You will be kept in the loop of the project, and receive regular small surveys and requests for feedback. Get in touch with Sandra if you're interested - your input in helping to shape this project is highly valued!

Research

• Research findings from interviews and surveys of GLAM project participants are being published to the research page. Check back over the next few weeks as additional details (notes, quotes, charts, blog posts, and slide decks) will be added to or linked from that page.

Development

• The Structured Commons team has written and submitted a report about the first nine months of work on the project to its funders, the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation. The 53-page report, published on November 1, is available on Wikimedia Commons.
• The team has started working on designs for changes to the upload wizard (T182019).
• We started preliminary work to prototype changes for file info pages.
• Work on the MediaInfo extension is ongoing (T176012).
• The team is continuing its work on baseline metrics on Commons, in order to be able to measure the effectiveness of structured data on Commons. (T174519)
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"Ce"

Hi there,

just a question: what does "ce" mean? In French it is "edict conflit", so I'm a bit confused :).

Happy festive season,

Nomen ad hoc (talk) 10:41, 31 December 2017 (UTC).

"copy edit". You might find en:Wikipedia:Wikipedia abbreviations useful. Season's Greetings to you, too! Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:00, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

Yep, it is; thanks! Nomen ad hoc (talk) 13:07, 31 December 2017 (UTC).

Fulica americana peruviana = Fulica ardesiaca?

Hi Pigsonthewing. I was looking for sources to identify the species to which it refers the Quechuan name of ajoya (in Spanish, the Fulica spp. are gallaretas). Some sources claim that it is Giant Coot (Q785664) and others claim that it is Fulica americana peruviana (Q40496729) or Andean Coot (Q1262940) (as Fulica americana ardesiaca). There are authors for whom these last two species are the same. The authors for whom they are synonyms quote The Shield Color and Relationships of Certain Andean Coots (F.B. Gill, 1964). This last point is the one that confuses me. Are they two different species or the same? How does that affect Wikidata? --Metrónomo (talk) 00:55, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

@Metrónomo: I've no idea about the details. Maybe es:Ajoya should be a disambiguation page? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:37, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Structured Commons - Design feedback request: Multilingual Captions

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The Structured Data on Commons team has a new design feedback request up for Multilingual Captions support in the Upload Wizard. Visit the page for more information about the potential designs. Discussion and feedback is welcome there.

On a personal note, you'll see me posting many of these communications going forward for the Structured Data project, as SandraF transitions into working on the GLAM side of things for Structured Data on Commons full time. For the past six months she's been splitting time between the two roles (GLAM and Community Liaison). I'm looking forward to working with you all again. Thank you, happy editing. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 15:09, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

UK station codes

These should all be migrated over now - 2116 when I started, 2116 when I finished, so looks like none were lost en route. Incidentally, I'm not going to make an attempt at importing them from enwiki, but there are apparently about 500 contemporary stations with no code assigned... Andrew Gray (talk) 21:14, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

@Andrew Gray: Many thanks. I've just imported another 355 from en.Wikipedia, using HarvestTemplates. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:40, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

Looks like the majority of the ones remaining are using w:template:Infobox London station rather than GB station, so a run through that should get most of what's left. Andrew Gray (talk) 21:43, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

@Andrew Gray: Thanks again - that's picked up another 56. Just 72 remaining per your PetScan query, but I think there are some false positives there. Seems there are no such codes for NI stations. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:05, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

Yes, NI seems to be a bit of an odd gap (as it so often is!). Filtering out those gives us about 20 - I think the only ones that aren't proposed, Crossrail, or station groups are Tottenham Court Road station (Q1431094) and Bond Street tube station (Q892189) which must presumably have codes. (Do station groups? I feel like they ought - you can get tickets to them - but not sure how that works). The enwiki category tree uses stations served by a post-privatisation franchise as a proxy for "current" and there are probably some pre-1990s closures that had codes, but as station items don't seem to usually have opened/closed dates it's hard to identify them. Andrew Gray (talk) 13:01, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

The Beattles

re: Wikidata:Property proposal/common misspelling

I'm not too keen on it being a string that we want. This would be used on The Beatles, not From Me to You. Another example would be Rogers Hornsby/Roger Hornsby. But we'd need to be able to write them out case by case. - Bossanoven (talk) 18:05, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

Are you seriously proposing to create an item for every misspelling? The example you gave is a string. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:21, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

No, I don't. Thanks for your help. - Bossanoven (talk) 18:31, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

Then your intention is unclear. Please clarify your proposal. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:34, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

What do you mean referring to "item"? Do you mean separate property proposals would be needed for each of the typos I wish to apply? - Bossanoven (talk) 19:09, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

No. Your proposal said the datatype would be "item"; I changed that to "string"; you objected, so I changed it back to "item". Again: it would help if you could be more clear about your intentions. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:15, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

I think you're right. I think it's a string. Sorry for the bother. - Bossanoven (talk) 19:24, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

User:Maitsavend

Добрый день. Можно ли заблокировать или лучше отменить все правки данного участника User:Maitsavend, так как практически не один его перевод на татарский язык не является правильным, участник сам придумывает словосочетания, слова, можно в этом убедиться открыв словарь или переводчик.

Good afternoon. Is it possible to block or better cancel all the edits this user is User:Maitsavend, as virtually no one its translation into the Tatar language is not correct, the participant comes up with phrases, words, can verify this by opening the dictionary or translator.--Damir (talk) 17:15, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

You already asked at Wikidata:Administrators' noticeboard#User:Maitsavend. Please see my existing reply there. 17:17, 31 January 2018 (UTC)Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits

• User refuses to dialogue. I tried to bring it up to him in the Tatar Wikipedia (User:Marat-avgust).--Damir (talk) 20:05, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Structured Data feedback - What gets stored where (Ontology)

Greetings,

There is a new feedback request for Structured Data on Commons (link for messages posted to Commons: , regarding what metadata from a file gets stored where. Your participation is appreciated.

Happy editing to you. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 22:58, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Could you...

... please explain this removal. Thx. --Succu (talk) 22:06, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

You keep removing valid, cited data. Desist. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:08, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

Special:Diff/635752166

These are just translations, why revert? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 04:21, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

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Because:

  |zh-hans = {{Q|145}}[[:Category:Argentina-related properties|相关属性]]
  |zh-hant = {{Q|145}}[[:Category:Argentina-related properties|相關屬性]]

is clearly not right. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:17, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

So this should be correct now? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 03:54, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

I can't read Chinese, but the English part seems to be. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:25, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

You're wellcome

Thanks Andy. PF fan too??, great!!! --Viascos (talk) 18:33, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

your welcome

i saw your welcome , but who fixes things not just talking about it in forums.50.254.21.213 16:14, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

Generating citations in Wikidata

You established en:Template:Cite Q in English Wikipedia. Can you advise me on how to create citations here in Wikidata? I am setting up some documentation which I think is best placed here and this includes some publication lists.

That template seems to not exist here. Are you aware of anything similar? If not, would I be asking a lot of you to either set that template up here or direct me to any assistance on how I might import it? Thanks for any response. Blue Rasberry (talk) 20:02, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

@Bluerasberry: Cite Q has some dependencies, so the best approach would be to ask - on Wikidata:Administrators' noticeboard - someone with the necessary rights to use Special:Import to import both Cite Q and the modules and templates upon which it depends. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:40, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, I posted to Wikidata:Administrators'_noticeboard#Request_to_import_template:Cite_Q_from_ENWP. Blue Rasberry (talk) 22:01, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

Advice on adding Wikidata statements based on Wikipedia categories

Hi Andy, I believe there are scripts and/or bots that take an article's Wikipedia categories and create corresponding statements on the article's wikidata item. Is this the case? Which are they? I've tried searching, but must not be using the right search phrases. If there is someone else who is better to ask, just let me know. TX. --Theredproject (talk) 17:51, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

@Theredproject: Sorry; late reply. I believe so too ;-) I've never done it, but I think you can use PagePile to generate lists of articles/ items, then use QuickStatements to make the necessary changes. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:44, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

@Pigsonthewing: Thanks. Pharos offered me some help understanding PetScan: particularly that you have to start w/ a Category, and work from there, rather than from a page list. I used that to extract CSVs of articles by Category (using some wikidata and SPARQL filters), ran some scripts to rm the non human items, and have dumped that all back in via QS. Added about 13K. I'm working on some other script based stuff, and I will prob reach out for some feedback about that in the next week or two. --Theredproject (talk) 16:22, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

@Theredproject: Neat. Please will you write up what you did (ideally with screenshots) as a wiki page or blog post? That will help others - and me - to replicate it in the future. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:25, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

@Pigsonthewing: Yes, I'm planning some documentation of the whole suite of scripts I'm working on. Waiting until they are stable, and the process has withstood some community peer review. But in the short term, you can check out this GDoc that has some notes on process. It is 10 days old, and some things have changed since then (using Categories first, per above, then searching first sentence) via input from Pharos and Jane023.--Theredproject (talk) 16:30, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

OK, I will Talk to Andy :)

First of all - big thanks for your great contributions since so many years!
I understand, that you are very busy, but I'm also some newbie so need sometimes some help. Now: I busily need but have no idea - how to clone (not move) one item to another(s) new items? Thanks in advance for your help. --Jasc PL (talk) 15:23, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

@Jasc PL: Thank you for your kind words. There is a user script for duplicating items: User:Magnus Manske/duplicate item.js. For guidance on installing a similar user script, see: User:Pigsonthewing/Setup#Scripts. An alternative is this script: User:Matěj Suchánek/moveClaim.js, which allows you to copy (or move) statements from one item to another. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:41, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

First structured licensing conversation on Commons

Greetings,

The first conversation about structured copyright and licensing for Structured Data on Commons has been posted, please come by and participate. The discussion will be open through the end of the month (March). Thank you. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 17:26, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

RE:Welcome

Hi, Andy. Thank you for your post on my Talk page. I'm learning how Wikidata works and I may not visit Wikidata very often, but you can also write on my Galipedia (Wikipedia in Galician) talk page.--Maria zaos (talk) 18:36, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Adding Medical Data

hi @Pigsonthewing - thanks for getting back to me. I'm a newbie on Wiki, but I know how to perform SQL queries and get what I need from databases and know some programming. My question for you is what is the best format to deliver the data to the site? FTP? XML file dump? Some other way? I'm guessing that the site has a certain way it wants the data formatted and if possible, I would like to automate as much as possible. If there is a guide somewhere here on the site where I could get started that would be great if you could provide that link. Or if that's not possible, I have no problem giving you an email address to reach me. Let me know when you can. Thanks! PBhighmark (talk) 20:26, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

@PBhighmark: That depends on what data you have, can you give examples? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:49, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

@Pigsonthewing - I don't have that information currently - but I do know it's a blend of database and copy on some web pages. What would be the best way to submit this info? I could then take the request to the team and have them generate it.PBhighmark (talk) 12:46, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

"Links broken" at Property talk:P1946

Hi! Can you help please on "Links broken" at Property talk:P1946? Thank you very much, Doc Taxon (talk) 10:37, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

Structured Data on Commons Newsletter - Spring 2018

Welcome to the newsletter for Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons! You can update your subscription to the newsletter and contribute to the next issue. Do inform others who you think will want to be involved in the project!

Community updates

• Our dedicated IRC channel: wikimedia-commons-sd ^webchat
• Several Commons community members are working on ways to integrate Wikidata in Wikimedia Commons. While this is not full-fledged structured data yet, this work helps to prepare for future conversion of data, and helps to understand how Wikidata and Commons can work better together.
  • Thanks to Jarekt and other contributors, some Commons templates can now be filled via Wikidata: {{Creator}} (Phabricator) and {{Institution}} (Phabricator). Work is ongoing on the {{Artwork}} template (Phabricator).
  • Thanks to Mike Peel and others, Wikidata-powered infoboxes can now be added to Commons categories, with the template {{Wikidata Infobox}}. (Example)
  • Multichill is working on an experimental workflow to upload images to Commons via Wikidata (and using metadata from Wikidata). See a part of it here.

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• Join the community focus group!
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Discussions held

• Conversation about licensing and copyright modeling.
• High-level discussion on ontology for Commons.
• Review first designs for multilingual captions.
• IRC office hour, 13 February

Events

• Wikimedia Conference, Berlin, 20-22 April (+ Learning Days 18-19 April): several sessions and workshops around Structured Commons
• EuropeanaTech Conference, Rotterdam, 15-16 May: several presentations + a full workshop day on Monday 14 May about Wikidata and Structured Commons
• Wikimedia Hackathon, Barcelona, 18-20 May: Structured Commons as a focus area.

Partners and allies

• We are still welcoming (more) staff from GLAMs (Galleries, Libraries, Archives and Museums) to become part of our long-term focus group (phabricator task T174134). You will be kept in the loop of the project, and receive regular small surveys and requests for feedback. Get in touch with Sandra if you're interested - your input in helping to shape this project is highly valued!

Research

• The research about GLAM contributions to Wikimedia Commons is concluded. A blog post on the Wikimedia blog provides a summary, and you can read the full results on meta.wikimedia.org.

Development

• Prototypes will be available for Multilingual Captions soon.

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-- Keegan (WMF) (talk)

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Rate Beer IDs

Drink in moderation. --Gerwoman (talk) 18:05, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

@Gerwoman: That's splendid; thank you. "Everything in moderation, including moderation." Prost! Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:02, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Incorrect/questionable Quora Topic IDs

Hi Andy,

I'm doing a piece of work on UK listed building items and I've noticed that some of the Quora topic ID (P3417) claims that were added by your bot account are irrelevant to the subject. A couple of examples are Offices (Q17555943) and Vaults (Q26517392). More numerous are Quora topics that provide no information about the subject, such as Goxhill (Q2738948), and in these cases I don't know if we can confirm that the topic is even specific to item.

On the other hand, many of the Quora topic ID (P3417) matches are absolutely correct and I'm unsure how to identify the incorrect statements.

Can you check that the Quora topics that you've added are correct please?

Cheers, Simon Cobb (Sic19 ; talk page) 11:45, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

@Sic19: I added well over 135,600 such values (incidentally, using matches supplied by Quora themselves). Not only is the error rate you've detected statistically insignificant, but it is entirely unreasonable to expect a single editor to manually check so many matches. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:04, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, I wasn't as clear as I could've been above - I'm seeking your input concerning the identification of incorrectly matched Quora topics and whether or not matches to topics containing no information should be retained. I thought it'd make sense to discuss the matter before editing to avoid needlessly removing any identifiers.

All I've done is provide examples that are illustrative of the issue and I don't think I've stated anything could be interpreted as an error rate. That said, the subset I'm interested in is comparatively small, only 817 listed buildings, but the quantity of these items with problems isn't insignificant (a conservative estimate would be at least 10%).

As you say, it'd be unreasonable to ask you to manually check all of the Quora topic ID (P3417) values and that isn't what I'm expecting. If you could look into the matter and suggest any possible approaches to resolving the problem that'd be really helpful though. Simon Cobb (Sic19 ; talk page) 15:25, 6 April 2018 (UTC)