Property talk:P1679

Latest comment: 5 months ago by Vladimir Alexiev in topic Incoming!

Documentation

Art UK artwork ID
identifier for artworks (publicly owned oil paintings and sculptures in the UK)
Associated itemArt UK (Q7257339), Art UK (Q7257339), Art UK (Q7257339)
Applicable "stated in" valueArt UK website (Q105003187)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domain
According to this template: Artworks. Currently oil paintings; may in future be extended to sculptures
According to statements in the property:
painting (Q3305213), sculpture (Q860861), print (Q11060274), stained glass window (Q21061279) or drawing (Q93184)
When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Allowed values([0-9A-Za-z\-_]*\-\d+|[0-9A-Za-z\-]{255,255})
ExampleBacchus and Ariadne (Q1206860)bacchus-and-ariadne-114356
Portrait of Giacomo Doria (Q7232270)giacomo-doria-142837
Sourcehttps://artuk.org/
Formatter URLhttps://artuk.org/discover/artworks/$1
Robot and gadget jobsIt may be possible to automatically match images on Commons against images in the Your Paintings collection -- eg using the new Elog.io tool for exact copies. A group at the University of Oxford also has impressive tools for non-quite exact matches (eg different images or printings of the same picture), as well as the whole of the Your Paintings image database
Tracking: usageCategory:Pages using Wikidata property P1679 (Q45312222)
Related to country  United Kingdom (Q145) (See 325 others)
See alsoArt UK artist ID (P1367), Art UK venue ID (P1602), Art UK collection ID (P1751), Art Fund artwork ID (P6576), National Trust Collections ID (P4373)
Lists
Proposal discussionProposal discussion
Current uses
Total218,082
Main statement215,916 out of 304,077 (71% complete)99% of uses
Qualifier2<0.1% of uses
Reference2,1641% of uses
Search for values
[create Create a translatable help page (preferably in English) for this property to be included here]
Format “([0-9A-Za-z\-_]*\-\d+|[0-9A-Za-z\-]{255,255}): value must be formatted using this pattern (PCRE syntax). (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1679#Format, hourly updated report, SPARQL
Distinct values: this property likely contains a value that is different from all other items. (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1679#Unique value, hourly updated report, SPARQL (every item), SPARQL (by value)
Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1679#Entity types
Item “creator (P170): Items with this property should also have “creator (P170)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1679#Item P170, search, SPARQL
Item “location (P276): Items with this property should also have “location (P276)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1679#Item P276, search, SPARQL
Item “inception (P571): Items with this property should also have “inception (P571)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1679#Item P571, SPARQL
Item “title (P1476): Items with this property should also have “title (P1476)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1679#Item P1476, SPARQL
Item “made from material (P186): Items with this property should also have “made from material (P186)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1679#Item P186, search, SPARQL
Item “genre (P136): Items with this property should also have “genre (P136)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1679#Item P136, search, SPARQL
Item “height (P2048): Items with this property should also have “height (P2048)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1679#Item P2048, SPARQL
Item “width (P2049): Items with this property should also have “width (P2049)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1679#Item P2049, SPARQL
Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as reference (Q54828450): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1679#Scope, SPARQL
Item “depicts (P180): Items with this property should also have “depicts (P180)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1679#Item P180, search, SPARQL
Item “copyright status (P6216): Items with this property should also have “copyright status (P6216)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1679#Item P6216, search, SPARQL
Item “collection (P195): Items with this property should also have “collection (P195)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1679#Item P195, search, SPARQL
Item “inventory number (P217): Items with this property should also have “inventory number (P217)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1679#Item P217, search, SPARQL
Label required in languages: en: Entities using this property should have labels in one of the following languages: en (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1679#Label in 'en' language, search, SPARQL
Description required in languages: en: Entities using this property should have descriptions in one of the following languages: en (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1679#Description in 'en' language, search, SPARQL
  Pattern ^([a-z0-9\-]+\-\d+)/(view_as|search)/.+$ will be automatically replaced to \1.
Testing: TODO list
 
Items with creator not linked to Art UK artist ID
Items that have creator (P170), but that item doesn't have Art UK artist ID (P1367). Missing link can probably be added (Help)
Violations query: SELECT DISTINCT ?item ?creator { ?item wdt:P1679 ?value ; wdt:P170 ?creator . ?creator wdt:P31 [] . MINUS { ?creator wdt:P1367 [] } } LIMIT 500
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P1679#Items with creator not linked to Art UK artist ID
 
Items with collection not linked to Art UK collection/venue ID
Items that have collection (P195), but that item doesn't have a Art UK venue ID (P1602) or Art UK collection ID (P1751) statement. Missing link can probably be added (Help)
Violations query: SELECT DISTINCT ?item ?collection { ?item wdt:P1679 ?value . ?item wdt:P195 ?collection . MINUS { ?collection wdt:P1602 [] } MINUS { ?collection wdt:P1751 [] } } LIMIT 500
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P1679#Items with collection not linked to Art UK collection/venue ID
 
Items with location not linked to Art UK venue ID
Items that have location (P276), but that item doesn't have a Art UK venue ID (P1602) statement. Missing link can probably be added (Help)
Violations query: SELECT DISTINCT ?item ?location { ?item wdt:P1679 ?value . ?item wdt:P276 ?location . MINUS { ?location wdt:P1602 [] } } LIMIT 500
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P1679#Items with location not linked to Art UK venue ID

Sculptures too in the future edit

Announcing our new sculpture project. Let's wait with updating the constraints until we have sculptures to link to. Multichill (talk) 19:12, 21 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

Ok, https://artuk.org/discover/artworks/view_as/grid/search/work_type:sculpture is filling up. Type constraint has been update to also include sculptures. Multichill (talk) 16:38, 22 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

Adding a lot of missing links edit

I kind of forgot I had a bot to import links. We currently have 8200 links, let's how much that will be after import. This query shows interesting collections that have artworks that miss a link. If it doesn't have the Art UK collection ID (P1751) you can try to find it on the ART UK website (see Property talk:P1751#list of collections for some pointers). Multichill (talk) 20:32, 23 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

Duplicates because of identifier change edit

Art UK made the (not so wise) decision to include the url that also includes the identifier. Every once in a while they update a title and the url breaks, but the identifier stays the same. I made a query to find these duplicates:

SELECT ?identifier (COUNT(?item) AS ?count) (GROUP_CONCAT(STR(?item)) AS ?item) (GROUP_CONCAT(STR(?value)) AS ?value) WHERE {
	?item wdt:P1679 ?value .
  BIND(REPLACE(?value, "^.*-(\\d+)$", "$1") AS ?identifier)
} GROUP BY ?identifier 
HAVING (?count > 1)
ORDER BY DESC(?identifier)
LIMIT 100
Try it!

It also contains the normal duplicates. Query could probably be improved and set up as an advanced constraint. Normally I would keep the old identifier around with a deprecated rank because it might show up in other datasets. This case it's slightly different with changes for example (on St Bartholomew (Q50813709)) from "st-bartholomew-5735" to "saint-bartholomew-5735". The integer part ("5735" in the example) stays the same so I don't think it worth keeping around. Any opinions on this? Multichill (talk) 15:03, 25 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

I agree the old ID is not worth keeping. More importantly, we need to merge the duplicates.
  • Your query (without limit) shows 657 duplicates.
  • In most cases the count is 2, except there are a few rows with 3+3+4.
  • Of these multiple duplicates, only these are not obviously the same: "charles-beale-the-younger-247698" vs "bartholomew-beale-247698"
So, should I write a batch to merge them?
  • Is it safe to take the Art UK ID from the newest item WD, and discard any other values?
  • I checked 4 cases, and that was true for them (older Art UK IDs lead to error 404)
Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 12:34, 18 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

Incoming! edit

At the hackathon I discussed importing all art uk paintings with @Mike Peel, Spinster, Husky, Fuzheado: (described more in general at Wikidata talk:WikiProject sum of all paintings#Syndication of other online catalogs). People were in favor so I implemented it. Bot logic:

You can of course help adding the different missing Art UK identifiers to (possible new) items. In the next pass the bot will pick them up. The collection/venue logic used by Art UK might cause some issues (for example with National Trust locations). Let's see how that works out. I still have to expand the time logic a bit more so inception (P571) will be added in more cases. We currently have about 40K out of a total of 215K paintings so it might take some time. I'll probably let it run a bit more and than have a break so I can see if I get any feedback which I can use to improve future imports. Multichill (talk) 15:37, 25 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

Query https://w.wiki/6kiS for the existing items to check. Multichill (talk) 17:08, 25 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
Multichill (talk) 09:17, 10 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

Missing collection edit

https://w.wiki/6qB3 gives a list of collections that could be matched. That's because no item exists with the relevant Art UK venue ID (P1602) or Art UK collection ID (P1751). Help appreciated. Multichill (talk) 21:38, 14 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

Images edit

We currently have 3700 art uk images on Commons that should be linked to Wikidata. Multichill (talk) 19:50, 19 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

Portraits edit

Did a query to find possible portraits. It currently returns 16.000 suggestions and the number of false positives seems to be low. Not sure yet how to process them. Multichill (talk) 19:53, 20 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

Here is a simpler regex: \\(\\d{4}–\\d{4}\\) .
Yours finds one more row because it can match more than 4 digits.
The count is now 17k. Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 12:42, 18 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

Missing creator edit

https://w.wiki/6syX gives a list of painters that could be matched to Art UK artist ID (P1367). Multichill (talk) 19:05, 26 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

Over 215K paintings linking to Art UK edit

Hi everyone, we now have over 215.000 paintings linking to Art UK. The power of Wikidata is providing context so the more linked these items are, the more useful these are. I hope people are willing to help improve this data. Some suggestions on how to help:

Some of these reports are not specific to Art UK, but can easily be forked to have a version specific for Art UK. Plenty of other things to do too. Who wants to help? Pinging some people who I think might be interested in this. Multichill (talk) 10:16, 1 July 2023 (UTC) @Mike Peel, Jheald, PKM, Vicarage, Ham II, Richard Nevell:Reply

I’m over-committed, but I can help as time permits. Great project! PKM (talk) 20:20, 1 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
Very interesting, I'll start chipping away where I can! One question as this stage: should UEFA player ID (P2276) mentioned above be location (P276)? Richard Nevell (talk) 19:31, 3 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
@Richard Nevell: UEFA player ID (P2276)? Multichill (talk) 17:51, 5 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
Two follow-up questions from having looked at a portrait:
  1. What should we use as a reference for the genre? For Robert Dudley (1532–1588), Earl of Leicester (Q118875532) I've gone to the Art UK link and from looking at it, the painting is clearly a portrait because it depicts a man. There isn't a written statement on the page that it is a portrait, so is it ok to use the Art UK website as the reference?
  2. main subject (P921) is suggested above, but the item documentation advises depicts (P180). Should both be used or is one or the other preferred, and under what circumstances?
Richard Nevell (talk) 19:36, 3 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
You might not have a source, but that doesn't mean you can't add it. Art UK website doesn't state it, so it isn't a valid source to support the statement
Not sure what documentation you refer to. main subject (P921) is generally a single statement, Robert Dudley, 1st Earl of Leicester (Q318017) in this case. depicts (P180) is for all the things depicted, so in this case for example Robert Dudley, 1st Earl of Leicester (Q318017), man (Q8441), dog (Q144), etc. Multichill (talk) 17:51, 5 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
I see, I understand the distinction now. The documentation I referred to is at Property talk:P1679#Documentation; one of the conditions is that "Item “depicts (P180)”: Items with this property should also have “depicts (P180)”", but it doesn't mention main subject (P921). The way you've explained it is clear. Richard Nevell (talk) 19:22, 5 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
@Multichill: Just to say thanks for doing the upload, it's already coming in useful! Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 19:15, 7 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
@Multichill: Nice import indeed and I did follow-up by adding some images from Commons, as well as matching some missing venues I encountered. Maybe some improvements could be done with creator (P170) statements: this list for examples would have mostly "untrue" statements backed by "made-up references", in the sense that the source claims the opposite of what you add (i.e. that the artwork was not actually created by that artist). The same thing could apply to other qualifiers (after, style of, ...), though they are less definitive. --Nono314 (talk) 08:54, 9 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

Formatter url edit

@Trzęsacz: what are you trying to do? A http url (instead of https) doesn't seem right in this day and age. Multichill (talk) 22:36, 1 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

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