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Tate artist ID
identifier of an artist in the Tate collection

Associated item	Tate (Q430682), Tate (Q430682)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	human (Q5) or group of humans (Q16334295)
Allowed values	\d+
Example	Berthe Morisot (Q105320) → 1663 Anne Said (Q21457474) → 1889 John William Waterhouse (Q212754) → 583
Source	https://www.tate.org.uk/art/artists/a-z
Formatter URL	https://www.tate.org.uk/art/artists/$1
Tracking: usage	Category:Pages using Wikidata property P2741 (Q45315270)
Related to country	United Kingdom (Q145) (See 326 others)
Lists	Items with the most statements of this property Count of items by number of statements (chart) Items with the most statements Items with the fewest statements Count of items by number of sitelinks (chart) Items with the most sitelinks Items with the most sitelinks, but no link to one Wikipedia (sample: Welsh Wikipedia, cywiki) Items with the fewest sitelinks Most linked wikis Items with the most identifier properties Items with no other external identifier Items with no other statements Most recently created items Items with novalue claims Items with unknown value claims Usage history (total) Usage history (main statement) Chart by item creation date Map of people by place values: place of birth educated at work location residence place of death place of burial January 1st dates People with date of birth on January 1 People with date of death on January 1 People with both dates on January 1 Mix'n'match (Report) Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P2741 Database reports/Humans with missing claims/P2741 Database reports/Constraint violations/P2741 Map Random list
Proposal discussion	Proposal discussion
Current uses	Total 4,354 Main statement 4,286 98.4% of uses Qualifier 3 <0.1% of uses Reference 65 1.5% of uses
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Single value: this property generally contains a single value. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). Known exceptions: Anthony Hill (Q573345)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2741#Single value, SPARQL

Distinct values: this property likely contains a value that is different from all other items. (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2741#Unique value, hourly updated report, SPARQL (every item), SPARQL (by value)

Type “human (Q5), group of humans (Q16334295)”: item must contain property “instance of (P31)” with classes “human (Q5), group of humans (Q16334295)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). Known exceptions: artists of the French School 18th century (Q23901154)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2741#Type Q5, Q16334295, SPARQL

Format “\d+”: value must be formatted using this pattern (PCRE syntax). (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2741#Format, hourly updated report, SPARQL

Item “occupation (P106)”: Items with this property should also have “occupation (P106)”. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). Known exceptions: Los Carpinteros (Q6682566), British School 17th century (Q23906819), Oliver Payne and Nick Relph (Q16734319), Guerrilla Girls (Q515658), Gilbert & George (Q684974), Art & Language (Q558276), Black Audio Film Collective (Q18358517), Atlas Group (Q24013725), Bernd and Hilla Becher (Q705085), Ant Farm (Q317874), British School 19th century (Q23901155), Langlands & Bell (Q6486180), Alken family (Q19899762), Anne and Patrick Poirier (Q479864), KwieKulik (Q11751728), Highmore (Q23927133), artists of the French School 18th century (Q23901154)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2741#Item P106, search, SPARQL

Item “sex or gender (P21)”: Items with this property should also have “sex or gender (P21)”. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). Known exceptions: Anne and Patrick Poirier (Q479864), Guerrilla Girls (Q515658), Gilbert & George (Q684974), Bernd and Hilla Becher (Q705085), Langlands & Bell (Q6486180), KwieKulik (Q11751728), Oliver Payne and Nick Relph (Q16734319), Black Audio Film Collective (Q18358517), artists of the French School 18th century (Q23901154), Highmore (Q23927133), Los Carpinteros (Q6682566), British School 17th century (Q23906819), Art & Language (Q558276), Atlas Group (Q24013725), Ant Farm (Q317874), British School 19th century (Q23901155), Alken family (Q19899762)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2741#Item P21, search, SPARQL

Item “date of birth (P569)”: Items with this property should also have “date of birth (P569)”. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). Known exceptions: Los Carpinteros (Q6682566), British School 17th century (Q23906819), Oliver Payne and Nick Relph (Q16734319), Guerrilla Girls (Q515658), Gilbert & George (Q684974), Art & Language (Q558276), Black Audio Film Collective (Q18358517), Atlas Group (Q24013725), Bernd and Hilla Becher (Q705085), Ant Farm (Q317874), British School 19th century (Q23901155), Langlands & Bell (Q6486180), Alken family (Q19899762), Anne and Patrick Poirier (Q479864), KwieKulik (Q11751728), Highmore (Q23927133), artists of the French School 18th century (Q23901154)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2741#Item P569, SPARQL

Item “place of birth (P19)”: Items with this property should also have “place of birth (P19)”. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). Known exceptions: Los Carpinteros (Q6682566), British School 17th century (Q23906819), Oliver Payne and Nick Relph (Q16734319), Guerrilla Girls (Q515658), Gilbert & George (Q684974), Art & Language (Q558276), Black Audio Film Collective (Q18358517), Atlas Group (Q24013725), Bernd and Hilla Becher (Q705085), Ant Farm (Q317874), British School 19th century (Q23901155), Langlands & Bell (Q6486180), Alken family (Q19899762), Anne and Patrick Poirier (Q479864), KwieKulik (Q11751728), Highmore (Q23927133), artists of the French School 18th century (Q23901154)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2741#Item P19, search, SPARQL

Item “has works in the collection (P6379): Tate (Q430682)”: Items with this property should also have “has works in the collection (P6379): Tate (Q430682)”. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). Known exceptions: anonymous (Q4233718)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2741#Item P6379, search, SPARQL

Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2741#Entity types

Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as reference (Q54828450): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2741#Scope, SPARQL

Works with creator missing link
List of works that are in collection (P195) Tate (Q430682) and have creator (P170) set, but that creator doesn't have a Tate artist ID (P2741) link (Help)
Violations query: SELECT ?item ?creator { { ?item wdt:P195 wd:Q430682 } UNION { wd:Q430682 wdt:P527 ?subtate . ?item wdt:P195 ?subtate } ?item wdt:P170 ?creator . MINUS { ?creator wdt:P2741 [] } . #MINUS { ?item wdt:P170 wd:Q4233718 } . # Filter out anonymous SERVICE wikibase:label { bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "en,en" } } ORDER BY ?creatorLabel
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P2741#Works with creator missing link

Works in wrong collection
List of works that have a creator (P170) with Tate artist ID (P2741), but where the collection is set incorrectly to one of the parts of Tate instead Tate (Q430682). (Help)
Violations query: SELECT ?item ?creator ?subtate { wd:Q430682 wdt:P527 ?subtate . ?item wdt:P195 ?subtate . ?item wdt:P170 ?creator . ?creator wdt:P2741 [] . }
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P2741#Works in wrong collection

Missing ID

@Jean-Frédéric: I created User:Multichill/Tate painters missing id to find painters in need of a Tate identifier. Multichill (talk) 18:11, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

New website, broken links

On it! ;-) Multichill (talk) 17:54, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

Circular references

Now that the tate.org.uk/art/artists pages lead almost exclusively to English Wikipedia, wouldn't it be wiser to revert to a name search (which finds a lot more)?

search?q=FirstName+Surname (many search results)

art/artists/firstName-lastName-kabal# (few results + circular references to en.wp)

It's also worth noting that this is being used on fr.wp in the template Modules:Bases art in line 156: {"Tate", "P2741", "http://www.tate.org.uk/art/artists/$1"},

SashiRolls (talk) 20:39, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

Data or Formatter URL

Hello. The URL generated for this property (https://www.tate.org.uk/art/artists/$1) is no longer valid. For instance https://www.tate.org.uk/art/artists/10093 vs https://www.tate.org.uk/art/artists/magdalena-abakanowicz-10093

Should the identifier become a string (like “magdalena-abakanowicz-10093”) instead of a number (\d+ value as “10093”) ?

Given that the page on www.tate.org.uk is alimented with Wikipedia article, is it worth using this property ?

Read also fr:Discussion Projet:Bases#P2741 in French. --Ideawipik (talk) 10:21, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for flagging this. Ah, damn these websites breaking links :-(

I tried around with a slug-less URL like https://www.tate.org.uk/art/artists/_-10093 or something to that effect but no luck :-(

The ID is still in the source code ('relatedArtists': 'Magdalena Abakanowicz | id:10093') and the original dataset (albeit unmaintained as it seems :-( ) uses Numerical IDs too. So I guess the best is to drop the formatter URL at all :'( (or link to the wayback machine?).

We can always ask Tate whether they would be nice enough to provide a redirect formatter URL.  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jean-Frédéric (talk • contribs) at 17:05, 10 March 2022‎ (UTC).

Still broken, we should have https://www.tate.org.uk/art/artists/war-office-22059, not https://www.tate.org.uk/art/artists/22059 as currently. Vicarage (talk) 19:27, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

Its not just artists

We only have Artist ID for the Tate database, but the database has entries, for other things, like the War Office. https://www.tate.org.uk/art/artists/war-office-22059. Rather than create multiple properties, I suggest this property is renamed to be more generic, and the restrictions on usage which flag error on the likes of War Office (Q2060703) be lifted. Vicarage (talk) 19:27, 22 June 2023 (UTC)