Property talk:P1877

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after a work by
artist whose work strongly inspired / was copied in this item

Represents	creative work (Q17537576)
Data type	Item
Domain	According to this template: Qualifier of creator (P170) According to statements in the property: work (Q386724) When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Allowed values	human (Q5) (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
Example	According to this template: The bellows repairer (Q1989774) => Cornelis Massijs (Q2199365) after a work by Hieronymus Bosch (Q130531) According to statements in the property: The bellows repairer (Q1989774) → Hieronymus Bosch (Q130531) V for Vendetta (Q5890) → Alan Moore (Q205739) Barbie in the Nutcracker (Q25733) → E. T. A. Hoffmann (Q150471) When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Source	external reference (note: this information should be moved to a property statement; use property source website for the property (P1896))
See also	inspired by (P941), based on (P144), influenced by (P737)
Lists	Items with the most statements of this property Count of items by number of statements (chart) Items with the most statements Items with the fewest statements Count of items by number of sitelinks (chart) Items with the most sitelinks Items with the most sitelinks, but no link to one Wikipedia (sample: Welsh Wikipedia, cywiki) Items with the fewest sitelinks Most linked wikis Items with the most identifier properties By value of property Most statements Fewest statements Most sitelinks Most linked wikis Total of sitelinks on items Most identifiers Fewest identifiers Items with no other statements Most recently created items Items with novalue claims Items with unknown value claims Usage history (total) Usage history (main statement) Chart by item creation date Database reports/Constraint violations/P1877 Map Random list
Proposal discussion	Proposal discussion
Current uses	Total 30,342 Main statement 13,990 46.1% of uses Qualifier 16,344 53.9% of uses Reference 8 <0.1% of uses
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Type “work (Q386724)”: item must contain property “instance of (P31)” with classes “work (Q386724)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1877#Type Q386724, SPARQL

Value type “human (Q5), pen name (Q127843), organization (Q43229)”: This property should use items as value that contain property “instance of (P31)”. On these, the value for instance of (P31) should be an item that uses subclass of (P279) with value human (Q5), pen name (Q127843), organization (Q43229) (or a subclass thereof). (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1877#Value type Q5, Q127843, Q43229, SPARQL

This property is being used by: es:Plantilla:Ficha de programa de televisión pt:Predefinição:Info/Filme/Testes Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.)

Difference

What's the difference between this property, based on (P144) and inspired by (P941)? Sjoerd de Bruin (talk) 10:12, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Too much overlap.. Michiel1972 (talk) 22:50, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

See Wikidata:Property proposal/Creative work#after a work by. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 23:52, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

See Wikidata:WikiProject Visual arts/Item structure#Use of creator (P170) in uncertain cases. Multichill (talk) 12:23, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

This property should only be used when the subject item is essentially a copy of someone else's work. Typically used for paintings to acknowledge that it is a copy. Danrok (talk) 02:33, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Qualifier

This property was supposed to be used only as qualifier. However, almost nobody does use it like that. Should we remove the qualifier constraint? @Spinster, Multichill, Coyau: --Pasleim (talk) 08:23, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

These errors were introduced in the last month.... Not a big fan of hijacking properties like this. Multichill (talk) 14:07, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Qualifier? In which properties? It is counter-intuitive... --Infovarius (talk) 08:24, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

@Infovarius: Yes, on any property that holds some sort of creator indicating that that creator used another as inspiration. Check the proposal. Using it as a proper property makes no sense: if the work is based on another work, the work should be listed, and the creators of that work on the item of that work. The property may need a better name, but the way it is used on 5k+ items, is just badly structured data. – Máté (talk) 07:33, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

First I met this property (and I considered it useful) as a link to an author of literary work on which film is based (instead of screenwriter (P58) sometimes used), while for the work itself I'd use based on (P144) (additionally). --Infovarius (talk) 10:08, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

Why store it twice? It's already on the literary work's item, and it's easily extracted. Storing data twice should be avoided when possible. – Máté (talk) 15:06, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

The aim is to store in a right property. Because I met such authors in screenwriter (P58) frequently which is not absolutely correct. --Infovarius (talk) 09:57, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

On films, it seems a bit strange. Can it be removed?
--- Jura 21:49, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

Did you read previous sentence? --Infovarius (talk) 18:42, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

I don't think so. Probably I shouldn't have indented it that way. based on (P144) is sufficient.
--- Jura 07:14, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

At least not always - what if there are not items to which based on (P144) can point? --Infovarius (talk) 08:35, 27 June 2018 (UTC)