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Commons Creator page
name of Commons Infobox template residing in "Creator" namespace on Wikimedia Commons
RepresentsCommons Creator page (Q24731821)
Data typeString
Domain
According to this template: Persons, groups of people
According to statements in the property:
human (Q5), organization (Q43229), group of humans (Q16334295), notname (Q1747829), workshop (Q656720), corporation (Q167037) and person (Q215627)
When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Allowed values
According to this template: Creator-space page on Commons
According to statements in the property:
(?![Cc]reator\s*:)[^\[\]\|]+
When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Formatter URLhttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Creator:$1
Robot and gadget jobsYes; note that Creator templates (such as the example above) may include a Wikidata ID.
Tracking: usageno label (Q61035452)
See alsoCommons gallery (P935), Commons category (P373), Commons Institution page (P1612), creator (P170)
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Proposal discussionProposal discussion
Current uses39,878
Search for values
  Link to Commons namespace “Creator”: this property should contain a well-formed link to an existing page on Wikimedia Commons. (Help)
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1472#Commons link, hourly updated report, SPARQL (new)
  Single value: this property generally contains a single value. (Help)
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1472#Single value, hourly updated report, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
  Distinct values: this property likely contains a value that is different from all other items. (Help)
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1472#Unique value, hourly updated report, SPARQL (every item), SPARQL (by value), SPARQL (new)
  Format “(?![Cc]reator\s*:)[^\[\]\|]+: value must be formatted using this pattern (PCRE syntax). (Help)
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1472#Format, hourly updated report, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
  Item “Commons category (P373): Items with this property should also have “Commons category (P373)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1472#Item P373, search, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
 

Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.)



  Probably death
People with Commons Creator page (P1472) born before the year 1900, but no date of death (P570) (Help)
Violations query: SELECT DISTINCT ?item WHERE { ?item wdt:P1472 [] . ?item p:P569 ?birthclaim . MINUS { ?item p:P570 [] } ?birthclaim ps:P569 ?birth . FILTER(?birth < "+1900-00-15T00:00:00Z"^^xsd:dateTime) . } ORDER BY ?birth LIMIT 1000
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P1472#Probably death
  20th-century artists without nationality
People with Commons Creator page (P1472) born after 1900, but no country of citizenship (P27) (Help)
Violations query: SELECT DISTINCT ?item WHERE { ?item wdt:P1472 [] . ?item p:P569 ?birthclaim . MINUS { ?item p:P27 [] } ?birthclaim ps:P569 ?birth . FILTER(?birth > "+1900-00-00T00:00:00Z"^^xsd:dateTime) . } ORDER BY ?birth LIMIT 1000
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P1472#20th-century artists without nationality
  No suitable occupation
People with Commons Creator page (P1472) and occupation (P106) but without a occupation that would create suitable works for Commons. The occupations are artist (Q483501), author (Q482980), botanist (Q2374149), zoologist (Q350979), cartographer (Q1734662), scientist (Q901) and subclasses of these. (Help)
Violations query: SELECT DISTINCT ?item WHERE { ?item wdt:P1472 [] . ?item wdt:P106 [] . ?item wdt:P31 wd:Q5 . MINUS {?item wdt:P106/wdt:P279* wd:Q483501} . MINUS {?item wdt:P106/wdt:P279* wd:Q482980} . MINUS {?item wdt:P106/wdt:P279* wd:Q2374149} . MINUS {?item wdt:P106/wdt:P279* wd:Q350979} . MINUS {?item wdt:P106/wdt:P279* wd:Q1734662} . MINUS {?item wdt:P106/wdt:P279* wd:Q901} . } LIMIT 1000
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P1472#No suitable occupation
  Missing English label
Items that have Commons Creator page (P1472) but do not have English label. English label is used as a last-resort fall-back by {{Label}} when creating a name to show and without it many uses will see Q-code instead of a name. (Help)
Violations query: SELECT ?item ?creator { ?item wdt:P1472 ?creator . FILTER NOT EXISTS { ?item rdfs:label ?label . FILTER((LANG(?label) = 'en')) . } }
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P1472#Missing English label

Should we delete some constraints?Edit

This property has some constraints with a LOT of violations, like requirement for presence of date of birth (P569) and place of birth (P19). For many old masters date of birth (P569), place of birth (P19) are often unknown and it is just too much work to list 4 thousand exceptions. So I would propose to just not keep track of it. occupation (P106) also has over thousand violations but that one we should be able to add. --Jarekt (talk) 19:02, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

Yes! Good idea. I'd say: Go forward! --Marsupium (talk) 00:56, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
Done. Wikidata:Database reports/Humans with missing claims covers this. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:06, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
Thanks --Jarekt (talk) 13:17, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

Restrict P1472 to humans only?Edit

I was thinking about restricting P1472 to humans only. Great majority of Creator templates correspond to humans but we have bout 80 templates with corporate or group type (see c:Category:Creator_templates_by_type) and they correspond to majority of exceptions. What I would propose is to not keep P1472 links for those. That would greatly simplify our constraints. We should also discourage people from creating new Creator templates for groups and institutions. --Jarekt (talk) 14:07, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

This is an old comment, but I disagree. Companies that create furniture, pottery, and other decorative objects should have Creator IDs and Creator templates, just as they have IDs in museum artist databases. - PKM (talk) 20:05, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

"occupation" as a required statementEdit

I am planning to also remove "occupation" as a required statement with this property, as the property is used for a lot non-individual creators. Any objections? --Jarekt (talk) 13:54, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

  Done I removed requirement for having "Occupation"--Jarekt (talk) 02:10, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Regular expression constraintsEdit

Regular expression constraints are listed on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:ConstraintReport/P1472 as problematic: "(?![Cc]reator\s*:)[^][|]+ is not a valid regular expression." can be found if you hover your mouse over the top line [?]. That expression was added by user:Multichill here. Is there a problem with the expression or with the Special:ConstraintReport? May be a better regular expression would be to catch strings with ":", "_", "%" characters, indicating use of namespace, underscores instead of spaces and non utf-8 characters encoded using utf-8 symbols? --Jarekt (talk) 14:22, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

@Jarekt: I think the regex part is broken? Even Special:ConstraintReport/P650 throws a warning. If you click the query you'll notice a remark: "differences in regex format between SPARQL (https://www.w3.org/TR/xpath-functions/#regex-syntax) and PCRE (used by constraint reports)". That might explain it.
This is a bit of a funky regex I think I pulled from P373. Regex on Commons category (P373) seems to be completely useless at the moment. Not sure why the old one was removed. Multichill (talk) 19:23, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
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