Property talk:P4177

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Finnish National Gallery artist ID
identifier for people in the Finnish National Gallery

Associated item	Finnish National Gallery (Q2983474), Finnish National Gallery (Q2983474)
Has quality	Universally Unique Identifier (Q195284)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	According to this template: artists and other actors in the Finnish National Gallery (Q2983474) According to statements in the property: human (Q5) When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Allowed values	[A-F\d]{8}(\-[A-F\d]{4}){3}\-[A-F\d]{12}
Example	Helene Schjerfbeck (Q236985) → 76EF2D1D-802A-4D77-9732-17DCB9B55B5E Bertel Thorvaldsen (Q47812) → 7D0BB761-2347-4580-A8CF-570D5F6850DE
Source	http://kokoelmat.fng.fi/api/v2support/docs/#/download
Formatter URL	http://kokoelmat.fng.fi/app?si=http://kansallisgalleria.fi/E39.Actor_$1
Formatter URN	urn:uuid:$1 — List of Uniform Resource Names (URN)
Tracking: usage	Category:Pages using Wikidata property P4177 (Q45313521)
Related to country	Finland (Q33) (See 61 others)
See also	Pinakothek artist ID (P4025), Auckland Art Gallery artist ID (P3372), Museum of Modern Art artist ID (P2174), Finnish National Gallery artwork ID (P9834)
Lists	Items with the most statements of this property Count of items by number of statements (chart) Items with the most statements Items with the fewest statements Count of items by number of sitelinks (chart) Items with the most sitelinks Items with the most sitelinks, but no link to one Wikipedia (sample: Welsh Wikipedia, cywiki) Items with the fewest sitelinks Most linked wikis Items with the most identifier properties Items with no other external identifier Items with no other statements Most recently created items Items with novalue claims Items with unknown value claims Usage history (total) Usage history (main statement) Chart by item creation date Map of people by place values: place of birth educated at work location residence place of death place of burial January 1st dates People with date of birth on January 1 People with date of death on January 1 People with both dates on January 1 Mix'n'match (Report) Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P4177 Database reports/Constraint violations/P4177 Map Random list
Proposal discussion	Proposal discussion
Current uses	Total 3,679 Main statement 3,119 84.8% of uses Qualifier 2 <0.1% of uses Reference 558 15.2% of uses
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Distinct values: this property likely contains a value that is different from all other items. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P4177#Unique value, SPARQL (every item), SPARQL (by value)

Single value: this property generally contains a single value. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P4177#Single value, SPARQL

Type “human (Q5)”: item must contain property “instance of (P31)” with classes “human (Q5)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P4177#Type Q5, SPARQL

Item “occupation (P106)”: Items with this property should also have “occupation (P106)”. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P4177#Item P106, search, SPARQL

Item “sex or gender (P21)”: Items with this property should also have “sex or gender (P21)”. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P4177#Item P21, search, SPARQL

Item “country of citizenship (P27)”: Items with this property should also have “country of citizenship (P27)”. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P4177#Item P27, search, SPARQL

Item “date of birth (P569)”: Items with this property should also have “date of birth (P569)”. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P4177#Item P569, SPARQL

Item “has works in the collection (P6379): Finnish National Gallery (Q2983474)”: Items with this property should also have “has works in the collection (P6379): Finnish National Gallery (Q2983474)”. (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P4177#Item P6379, hourly updated report, search, SPARQL

Format “[A-F\d]{8}(\-[A-F\d]{4}){3}\-[A-F\d]{12}”: value must be formatted using this pattern (PCRE syntax). (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P4177#Format, hourly updated report, SPARQL

Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P4177#Entity types

Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as reference (Q54828450): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P4177#Scope, SPARQL

Works with creator missing link
List of works that are in collection (P195) Finnish National Gallery (Q2983474) and have creator (P170) set, but that creator doesn't have a Finnish National Gallery artist ID (P4177) link (Help)
Violations query: SELECT ?item ?url ?creator ?creatorurl ?creatorid { ?item wdt:P195 wd:Q2983474 . ?item wdt:P170 ?creator . MINUS { ?creator wdt:P4177 [] } . MINUS { ?item wdt:P170 wd:Q4233718 } . # Filter out anonymous OPTIONAL {?item wdt:P973 ?url } . } LIMIT 1000
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P4177#Works with creator missing link

Probably death
People with Finnish National Gallery artist ID (P4177) born before the year 1900, but no date of death (P570) (Help)
Violations query: SELECT DISTINCT ?item WHERE { ?item wdt:P4177 [] . ?item p:P569 ?birthclaim . MINUS { ?item p:P570 [] } ?birthclaim ps:P569 ?birth . FILTER(?birth < "+1900-00-15T00:00:00Z"^^xsd:dateTime) . } ORDER BY ?birth LIMIT 1000
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P4177#Probably death

Is this working?

Feels I just get error messahes e.g. Helene Schjerfbeck --> 76EF2D1D-802A-4D77-9732-17DCB9B55B5E is redirected to https://www.kansallisgalleria.fi/fi/search?searchTerms[]=http://kansallisgalleria.fi/E39.Actor_76EF2D1D-802A-4D77-9732-17DCB9B55B5E that gives no result - Salgo60 (talk) 09:56, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

New IDs

I have a MnM catalog with working IDs (I believe), but they differ from the ones for this property. Should we change these IDs (maybe deprecate current values), and adopt the new ones? --Magnus Manske (talk) 15:29, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

Susanna Ånäs Urjanhai Raksa123 Zache Shinnin Majavah Samoasambia

Notified participants of WikiProject Finland. @Magnus Manske: sounds good to me! Looks like the old IDs have not worked in long time. Samoasambia ✎ 17:20, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

FYI @Ipr1 Do you have any opinnions about this based on Wikimedia Commons updates--Zache (talk) 17:25, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

ID should be same, just URL is different now. Let me check. Ipr1 (talk) 17:28, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

For example, for The Convalescent (Q5478273) ID 624337 should be working, so full url would be: https://www.kansallisgalleria.fi/fi/object/624337 . Ipr1 (talk) 17:30, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

Finnish National Gallery artwork ID (P9834) Seems to hold the new ID already. Ipr1 (talk) 17:32, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

Note that there may be multiple versions of "same" artwork so ID might not necessarily incorrect. Ipr1 (talk) 17:33, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

Yes, the artwork property works, but the artist property doesn't. What is the new URL for that if there's one? Samoasambia ✎ 17:40, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

Ah, right.. I looked at wrong ID. Haven't used the artist ID before so no idea. Ipr1 (talk) 17:46, 11 November 2024 (UTC)