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gerrit:94939

Tracked in Bugzilla
Bug 58990

Can this patch be merged and badges be worked?--GZWDer (talk) 12:58, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

@GZWDer: Hi, see Lydia's comment:

I'd like this to either be marked as experimental or not merged until we have the JS-UI part as well. (Don't know if this is already experimental though.)

So we need to wait until there is a ui for badges. See also bugzilla:58990 Best regards, -- Bene* ^t_a^l_k 19:55, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Interwiki-Link

Hallo Bene, da du mich damals auf meiner Disk. begrüßt hast und ich mal wieder nicht weiter weiß, melde ich mich hier in dier Hoffnung, dass du helfen kannst. Ich habe heute den Artikel neu angelegt und würde ihn gerne mit dem spanischen Äquivalent verknüpfen, weiß aber leider nicht, wie das geht, wenn beide noch nicht die Linkvoraussetzung in ihrer Mutter-Wiki haben. Ich hoffe, du weißt, was ich meine, ich kenne aber den Fachbegriff nicht. Neulich bot ein neu angelegter Artikel gleich den Interwiki-Link auf Wikidata an und da konnte ich die Verknüpfung mit dem älteren spanischen Artikel (der keine Verlinkung anbot) vornehmen. Aber diesmal bin ich hilflos :-( Viele Grüße Chivista (talk) 18:18, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi, ich hab es einfach über den Link links unten auf der deutschen Seite gemacht: Auf Links hinzufügen klicken und die beiden Felder ausfüllen (in diesem Fall eswiki und Región de Las Montañas (Veracruz). Viele Grüße, -- Bene* ^t_a^l_k 19:58, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

RfD archiving bot

So you can try to archive requests for deletions after being marked as done for a moment. Hazard-Bot only archive general RfD requests, but if possible, bulk deletion request can also be archived automatically.--GZWDer (talk) 05:13, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Maybe I should create a new bot request for that purpose? -- Bene* ^t_a^l_k 20:19, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

Probably yes.--GZWDer (talk) 05:11, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

• And, what is the current status of Wikidata:Bot requests#Put empty items to RFD or delete them? You can also Put items with only links to deleted pages or redirects to RFD, like this one.--GZWDer (talk) 05:16, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
  • Working on a service for that. -- Bene* ^t_a^l_k 20:19, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
    • Any update for automatically marking useless items for deletion?--GZWDer (talk) 14:08, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

User:BeneBot*/movelinks.js

is probably broken and need to be fixed.--GZWDer (talk) 05:07, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Ok, this is fixed. Thanks for the notice. -- Bene* ^t_a^l_k 09:52, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Wikibase.net

Hallo Bene,

ich habe gerade mal angefangen, die ersten Schritte mit Wikibase.NET zu machen um irgendwann mal einen Bot draus werden zu lassen, mit dem ich die Verwaltungseinheiten Thailands hier leicht mit Statements versorgen kann. Die ersten beiden Bugs habe ich dabei schon gefunden, und wollte die Fixes einfach einchecken - aber per SVN kam ein "Access forbidden". Git selbst hatte ich bis jetzt nicht probiert, aber nachdem ich das installiert hatte kam darüber eine noch kryptischere Fehlermeldung. Musst du mich vielleicht erst noch freischalten damit ich einchecken kann? Username bei Github ist der gleiche wie hier... Ahoerstemeier (talk) 11:30, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi Ahoerstemeier, toll dass du an dem Projekt mitarbeiten möchtest. :-) Du kannst nicht direkt den Code in der Repository bearbeiten, aber du kannst die Repository von Wikibase.NET "forken", dazu gibt es im Webinterface von Github rechts oben einen Button. Dadurch erstellst du dir eine eigene Repository, die eine Kopie von Wikibase.NET ist. Die kannst du dann bearbeiten und wenn du fertig bist, kannst du eine "pull request" machen. Das heißt, du lässt dann deine Änderungen die Repository von Wikibase.NET einfügen. Wenn etwas nicht klappt, dann frag mich einfach nochmal. -- Bene* ^t_a^l_k 17:07, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

OK, auf dem Fork konnte ich die Änderung nun einchecken. Soll ich schon mit dem einen Checkin den "pull request" machen, oder erst noch weiter rumprobieren und eventuell weitere Fehler finden? Spätestens wenn die dimensionsbehafteten und dimensionslosen Werte in die API kommen muss ja etwas mehr gemacht werden. Auch würde ich gerne den Code dokumentieren, damit IntelliSense hilfreichere Hints zeigen kann, aber dafür werde ich sicher auch einige Zeit brauchen. Ahoerstemeier (talk) 08:58, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Ich fändes es besser, wenn du eine Änderung, die in sich stimmig ist, auch als eine Pull request an mich weiterleitest. Natürlich ist es nicht gut, für jede kleine Änderung direkt eine Pull request zu machen, aber wenn es zu viel wird, kann ich es auch kaum überblicken. Du muss da am besten ein gesundes Mittelmaß finden. -- Bene* ^t_a^l_k 22:33, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

OK, erster Pull Request mit Bugfixes ist unterwegs. Aktuell probiere ich jetzt daran, die qualifiers lesenderweise hinzubekommen. Allerdings fürchte ich, daß an den Klassen so einige breaking changes nötig sind um daraus richtig guten Code zu machen - allein schon die im Visual Studio eingebaute Code Analysis wirft 264 Warnungen zu Dingen wie public fields (fields sollen immer private sein, nur properties public), Groß/Kleinschreibung (Methoden/Properties sollen mit einem Großbuchstaben anfangen) etc. Ich bin halt schon lange C#-Entwickler, da sehe ich dort viele kleine Sünden, die den Code instabil oder schwer wartbar machen. Hast du einen Überblick, wie oft diese API bislang verwendet wird, also wie wild ich dort rumändern kann ohne allzuviele andere Entwickler zu ärgern? Ahoerstemeier (talk) 08:47, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Wie schaut's, warum integrierst du die Poll Requests nicht? Ahoerstemeier (talk) 13:04, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Lo siento

Me distraje con el teléfono y no me percaté de que lo había borrado. Gracias por el aviso. --LadyInGrey (talk) 18:49, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

http://tools.wmflabs.org/bene/itemsbycat

Thank you for suggesting this tool! But looks like it creates wrong links with Wikisource pages which are not linked to Wikidata items. I think such link should point to project (not Wikidata) pages. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 03:43, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi EugeneZelenko, I've fixed this problem now. The tool creates interwiki prefixes so that it can also be copied to wikitext (if necessary). -- Bene* ^t_a^l_k 21:45, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

maps script

The maps script is currently flipping coordinates (west) and putting them as east coordinates (e.g. US stuff in Russia). I have tweaked the script to fix and propose to update your script. User:Aude/maps.js Cheers Aude (talk) 19:34, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

@Aude: Hi, thanks for the improvements. I added your changes. -- Bene* ^t_a^l_k 21:50, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

ask

Hallo Bene*. Danke für http://tools.wmflabs.org/bene/ask/. Gibt es irgendwo eine Möglichkeit, Antwortpattern für Fragenmuster, die noch nicht gefunden sind zu editieren? -- Mathias Schindler (WMDE) (talk) 13:29, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi, ich bin gerade dabei, das in ein vernünftiges Format zu bringen. Dannn wird es vermutlich auch ein Tool zum Bearbeiten geben. :-) Vielleicht könnte man solche pattern auch als Eigenschaften von Properties festsetzen? Viele Grüße, -- Bene* ^t_a^l_k 14:28, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Danke! -- Mathias Schindler (WMDE) (talk) 08:33, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

@Mathias Schindler (WMDE): Hi, ich hab jetzt ein GitHub Projekt aufgesetzt [1]. Im Moment bin ich noch dabei, alles einzurichten, aber vielleicht kannst du mir ja helfen, eine Möglichkeit zu entwerfen, die Frage- und Antwortmuster einfach zu editieren. -- Bene* ^t_a^l_k 22:07, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Lonely items

Hi! This tool helps me to merge more and more pages. I was wondering if it is possible to add a feature. I would like to have abillity to change links destination: Wikidata (http://wikidata.org/wiki/Q###) × project (htttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/@@@@). This would make the finding and merging process faster. Matěj Suchánek (talk) 17:02, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

@Matěj Suchánek: Hi, do you like the format now? -- Bene* ^t_a^l_k 21:44, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

This is better than I suggested! Thank you very much! Matěj Suchánek (talk) 21:47, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Your bot and encoding

Hi Bene*,

Your bot still adds the information in a wrong encoding (which was discussed on the Russian-language forum) --Michgrig (talk) 14:04, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Verschieben

Hi Bene*. Hier wurde beim Verschieben eines Weblinks, der Vorhandene ohne Nachfrage ersetzt. Vmtl. ist das nicht so gewollt. Oder? Gruß --Succu (talk) 17:04, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Ist das noch aktuell? Wenn ich nämlich versuche, den Link zu verschieben, bekomme ich die erwartete Fehlermeldung. -- Bene* ^t_a^l_k 17:56, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Schön, dass der Link zum Verschieben wieder da ist, der war nämlich gerade einige Zeit weg. Ob das noch aktuell ist kann ich dir nicht sagen. Dieser Verschiebeversuch von mir war eher eine Unachtsamkeit. Gruß --Succu (talk) 18:28, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Dein Karten-skript und WIWOSM

Hallo, läuft dein Karten-Skript momentan noch? Bei mir geht es nämlich nicht mehr, vielleicht wurde ja irgendwas an den Geokoordinaten umgeschraubt. Wir haben jetzt aktiv an WIWOSM geschraubt, damit es auch Wikidata-Eintrage ausgibt. Dazu brauchen wir nur als Sprache "wikidata" in der Karte und als Artikel die Q-Nummer.

Hier mein Diff damit das in deinem Skript gehen könnte: https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AKolossos%2Fmaps.js&diff=113706740&oldid=107005538

Die Karte sieht dann wie folgt aus: https://toolserver.org/~kolossos/openlayers/kml-on-ol.php?lang=wikidata&uselang=de&params=40.43153_N_111.933092_W_region:US-UT_type:landmark&title=Q12857142

Mit dem Wikiminiatlas müßte es ähnlkich gehen.

Es wäre nett, wenn du das einbauen könntest. --Kolossos (talk) 19:08, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Danke für den Hinweis. Ich hab jetzt das Skript gefixt. Ich seh nur keinen Unterschied, wenn ich "lang" zu "wikidata" setze... Kannst du mir das Format nochmal genauer erklären? Viele Grüße, -- Bene* ^t_a^l_k 22:38, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Damit das funktioniert, mußt du natürlich noch den Titel (die Q-Nummer) mit übergeben:

+ '&title=' + mw.util.wikiUrlencode( mw.config.get( 'wgTitle' ) )

WIWOSM zieht sich aufgrund von Projektsprache und Titel dann eine Vektorgeometrie (Ausnahme ist der Internetexplorer) und zeigt die Ausmaße eines Objektes an. Auf meiner maps.js läuft das jetzt und ich habe Daniel Schwen angeschrieben, damit er seinen WMA auch für Wikidata fit machen kann. Kolossos (talk) 19:52, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Danke, hab ich jetzt implementiert. Ich hoffe mal, das klappt jetzt so, du kannst es ja auch nochmal testen. -- Bene* ^t_a^l_k 19:58, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Danke, es funktioniert. --Kolossos (talk) 20:34, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Ampersand escapen

Moin Bene, du bist mir als erstes eingefallen, daher die Frage an dich: Wie muss man das &-Zeichen im JSON-Objekt (z.B in einem Sitelink) escapen, damit kein Fehler zurückgegeben wird? Mit reiner URL-Enkodierung hat es nicht geklappt. Gruß, IW 14:38, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi, im JSON-Objekt musst du das &-Zeichen eigentlich garnicht escapen. Url-codiert ist es ja %26. Was für einen Fehler bekommst du denn geliefert? -- Bene* ^t_a^l_k 15:21, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Ich bekomme als Fehlermeldung invalid-json. Ich hatte schon mal den ganzen Data-Block urlenkodiert, doch dann hat der gesamte API-Request nicht funktioniert. IW 16:33, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Ich glaube, ohne dass ich hier ein bisschen code sehe, kommen wir nicht weiter. Kannst du zumindest das JSON, wenn nicht auch noch den anderen code posten? -- Bene* ^t_a^l_k 16:46, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Sobald ich dazu komme, das kann aber noch etwas dauern. Gruß, IW 18:10, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Ich hab es anders probiert und bin selbst auf die Lösung gestoßen. Danke trotzdem für die Hilfe. Gruß, IW 18:18, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

RFD bot

Your bot is not running. Please fix it.--GZWDer (talk) 09:49, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

This was perhaps a temporary problem on labs which is already solved. -- Bene* ^t_a^l_k 19:00, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Welcome

Thanks for the welcome, Bene*.--Syum90 (talk) 14:27, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Request for feedback on my GSoC'14 proposal

Hi Bene,

I am planning to work on the project titled "Tools for mass migration of legacy translated wiki content" this summer under Google Summer of Code. I have drafted a proposal for the same over the past few weeks. This project is going to help the translation adminstrators like you in a great way, as it would completely automate the tedious manual task of preparing a page for translation and then importing the translations into the Translate extension. You can check the proposal page for detailed information on how I plan to accomplish this.

As you would be an end user of this tool, it would be great if you could go through the proposal and provide feedback/suggestions. Your feedback would definitely help me improve the proposal as well help in creating an even better tool. You can do the same on the discussion page of the proposal or reply here, whichever is convenient for you. I look forward to hearing from you! Thank you!

P.S: I need to submit the proposal to Google by March 19, 2014.

BPositive (talk) 13:40, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Wikidata GuidedTours

Hi Bene*, similar to above, I'm contacting you about a Wikidata proposal (for OPW not GSOC), however I'm not requesting feedback on the proposal (yet!) but wondering if you could tell me a bit more about what you had planned for the GuidedTours extension or indeed if you had anything planned (I wasn't sure if you were just in favour of enabling the extension or actually wanted to contribute/create/decide on what content to include). In either case, it seems a large undertaking (when done right, at least... I'm looking at the Wikipedia Adventure pages on background research, usability testing, and script outlines for reference) and I'd like to express my interest and desire to make it the central focus of my proposal. I've been in contact with Lydia and she would be a mentor for this project but I'm also wondering if you would be interested in also collaborating or serving as a co-mentor?

cheers, Thepwnco (talk)

Hi, actually I'm already working on a first tour and will soon publish some first results. However, some non-technical help concerning content could be quite useful to keep the tours understandable for everyone. Can you provide some more information about what the user's tasks will be then? -- Bene* ^t_a^l_k 22:13, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

sure! I like the idea of having multiple modules and packing them all together in sequence like the Wikipedia Adventure. While I am not sure if the 'gamification' approach is the best one to take I have been considering the best way of delivery content and finding a good balance between providing information and plotting user tasks. I think the tour should feature introductory content on the purpose and aim of Wikidata (i.e. what is Wikidata all about?) and some of the policies and guidelines (like notability and exceptions when an item doesn't need to have a sitelink to one of the other sister projects), so was thinking there could be multiple choice content to assess understanding of such concepts. Other, more defined tasks would include setting language preferences; improving a random item (including choosing the best label especially when possibly ambiguous, choosing a description especially with respect to general principles of Wikidata, and how to add additional statements and sources); how to look up list of properties to determine best match; how to report an interwiki conflict; how to create a new item/check if an item already exists; and more advanced tasks just as using qualifiers, and proposing properties. I don't think we should presume users would already be familiar with wikis (such as Wikipedia) so should provide content accordingly but perhaps also allow conditional logic (if possible - not fully familiar with the Extension) that allows for experienced wiki users to skip ahead to pure Wikidata content. Ideally however, I'd like to consult with current Wikidata users as well as non-users and do some background research in order to figure it all out. These are just initial thoughts...Thepwnco (talk) 23:57, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Dein Karten-skript und Wikipedia-World

Hallo, ich unterstützen jetzt bei meinen Wikipedia-Koordinaten Extrakt auch Wikidata in der Ausgabe:

• https://toolserver.org/~kolossos/openlayers/kml-on-ol.php?lang=wikidata&uselang=wikidata&params=42.75_N_11.108333333333333_E&title=Q16185

Man sieht dann lauter Q-Nummern. (außer bei Listeneinträgen)

Siehst du darin irgendeinen Nutzen? Sollte man das in deinem Tool aktivieren? Vielleicht müssen in ferner Zukunft Kinder im Geographie Unterricht die Q-Nummern von Wikidata auswendig lernen... Nein, der Nutzen liegt wohl eher darin sich dann mal Zusatzdaten aus Wikidata zu holen. Das könnten Wappen, Einwohnerzahlen, "is instance of"-Eigenschaften sein.

Die Koordinaten stammen übrigens immer noch von verschiedenen Wikipedien, so habe ich 3,4 Mio statt statt der 1,1 Mio Koordinaten in Wikidata. --Kolossos (talk) 18:40, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Wikidata:Property_proposal/Place#OpenStreetMap-Tagging

Hallo Bene*, da du die Karteneinbindung bei den Koordinaten gemacht hast, wollte ich dich fragen, ob du mir bitte helfen, das OSM-Tagging-property anzulegen. Per Javascript sollte der String in ein bzw. zwei Links umgewandelt werden. --Kolossos (talk) 09:04, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

Where is the logic?

Hi! grandparent (Q167918) (a gender neutral item for grandfather (Q9238344) and grandmother (Q9235758) ) refers to Q15148950 and Q15148951 in the English and Italian description. Your bot deleted them. Is this common practice? @Jaredzimmerman_(WMF) Regards gangLeri לערי ריינהארט (talk) 14:50, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

Wikidata:Tools/Tool of the week

Hey :)

Doesn't seem to be updating anymore? Can you check please? Thanks! --Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk) 09:33, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

I think it should work now. However, the bot did the edit while being logged out last sunday. Will have to investigate further in this problem if it still occurs. -- Bene* ^t_a^l_k 15:07, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

Archiving für Autoarchive resolved section

Hi Bene, die Änderung war nicht komplett. Hier sowie auf anderen Seiten verweist durch currentarchive alles auf den May - warum auch immer. overview funktioniert auch nicht und zeigt bei Weglassen auf ((Lemma))/Archive. Der Parameter show und timecompare werden ebenso verschluckt. Wobei mode mir unbekannt ist. --Euku:^⇄ 22:48, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Lonely items: jQuery is not defined

Hi!

When I access https://tools.wmflabs.org/bene/lonelyitems/ I get this in the console: . Helder.wiki 13:00, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

Fixed. -- Bene* ^t_a^l_k 09:19, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

Tool itemsbycat

Hi :-) concerning the very useful tool itemsbycat, can I suggest to filter redirects and undesidered namespace such as File, User and all the talk namespaces? (maybe you already knew it, but just in case...). Thanks, bye ;-) --Superchilum^{(talk to me!)} 06:57, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Strange deletion

Hi Bene*, I am wondering how you came to merge Appraisal (Q15752602) into Economic appraisal (Q621696). I reverted the merge by ArjanH (talk • contribs • logs) and left them a note, and I thought this item wasnt listed on RfD so I didnt do anything more about it. Indeed, it looks like it wasnt listed on RfD. (Special:WhatLinksHere/Q15752602 / Special:WhatLinksHere/Q621696) Is there some other list (an edit filter?) that you are using to delete items? Just curious. Thanks for restoring it ;-) John Vandenberg (talk) 01:48, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

You are right, I deleted all items which have been merged but forgot to exclude the ones which have been reverted inbetween. However I think this errors are now entirely fixed. --Bene* ^t_a^l_k 07:55, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

Restored?

Hi Bene*, Q16808906 can be deleted. It was "merged" into Q15315706. Oddly both had the same sitelink to en. Nor sure why it was restored.

Q12257076 can also be deleted, see Q2251997. --- Jura 03:55, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

This item was edited after the merge so I had to restore it, see #Strange deletion. --Bene* ^t_a^l_k 07:58, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

Ok, NP. BTW thanks for all the cleaning you did yesterday. Quite impressive. --- Jura 08:24, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

Falsche Löschungen

Hi Bene, du und dein Bot löschen gerade ein paar falsch zusammengeführte Eintrage (Beispiel. Weitere aktuelle Beispiele sind Q14943168, Q14936602 ‎und Q14969316. Bitte die vier Datenobjekte wiederherstellen und das zusammenführen rückgängig machen. Danke und Gruß --Succu (talk) 19:31, 23 May 2014 (UTC) +Q14964625, +Q14948322, +Q14946393

Danke, aber Q14943168 fehlt noch. Und das sind nur die wenigen Datenobjekte die ich, aus gutem Grund, auf meiner Beobachtungsliste habe. Gruß --Succu (talk) 19:54, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

So, ich hab jetzt alle Fehler wieder ausgebügelt, nachdem ich alle Löschungen nochmal durchgesehen und ggf. wiederhergestellt habe. Viele Grüße, -- Bene* ^t_a^l_k 22:22, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Vielen Dank. Ich hab leider noch einen gefunden: Q15711589 Hier wurde die monotypische Gattung mit ihrer einzigen Art zusammengelegt. Ich fürchte von dieser Fehlerklasse wird es noch mehr geben. Gruß --Succu (talk) 07:18, 24 May 2014 (UTC) PS: Zwei weitere Fälle: Q13583152, Q15711589

Hi, diese Fälle sind aber nicht meine Schuld. Die gelöschten Items waren tatsächlich leer, weil du den Merge nicht vollständig zurückgesetzt hast. Ich kann aber gerne die Items wiederherstellen, von denen du weißt, dass sie nicht vollständig zurückgesetzt wurden. --Bene* ^t_a^l_k 07:52, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

Guten Morgen, Bene*. Ich hatte da nicht nachgesehen, die passten nur zum angesprochenen Thema. Aber hier noch einer: Q16756123. Hier wurden Art und Gattung vereinigt, was bei einer monotypischen Gatttung ok ist. Das Datenobjekt sollte allerdings als Gattungsobjekt erhalten bleiben und nur der en-wikilink verschoben werden. Schönen Wahlsonntag --Succu (talk)

Und noch ein Fall in dem ein Tier und eine Pflanze zusammengelegt wurden: Decodon (Q15623126). Da das Merge-Spielchen wieder aktiviert wurde, werden wir wohl laufend solche Fälle haben. Gruß --Succu (talk) 12:37, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

Wikidata:Tours and Q16943273

Wikidata is not a test wiki. So I think we don't need more test items. Probably a existed sandbox Q4115189/Q13406268/Q15397819 can be used, or directly link "Start this tutorial" to testwikidata.--GZWDer (talk) 11:06, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

And please add useful descriptions to this item. Otherwise users may treat it as the real item for Paris and link it.--GZWDer (talk) 11:08, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi GZWDer, I started a discussion on the project chat. -- Bene* ^t_a^l_k 10:18, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

I already saw it.--GZWDer (talk) 10:22, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

Restoring

Please look at User_talk:BeneBot*#Families_and_Bellatrix_were_merged. Infovarius (talk) 14:09, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

done -- Bene* ^t_a^l_k 15:53, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Wikidata:Tours - tour 1 & 2

Hey Bene*,

when you have time, please have a look at Wikidata:Tours/Project_Plan_and_Content_Outline/Statements for a draft of the first follow-up to the Wikidata basics tour. I've run this by Lydia_Pintscher_(WMDE) for initial feedback, and would welcome your comments on content too, but am specifically interested in your thoughts on the questions at the top of the page under implementation? My main worry is user experience for the tour - would it be possible to curate a testwikidata page so there are only ever a few statements on it and thus users don't have to scroll down a lot to [add] a new one? Also, if part of the tours assume that some statements will pre-exist on the testwikidata item page (for example, "let's have a look at the statement about Mount Everest for Earth"), is it possible to prevent people from changing the page (perhaps by leaving some kind of notice there)? Let me know if you'd like to discuss on IRC.

I've also created a modified script for the current Wikdiata basic tour at Wikidata:Tours/Project_Plan_and_Content_Outline/Items. The changes mostly reflect overall 'theming' of all the tours (i.e. a shift from Paris to Earth) and how the tours relate to each other. It's still a work in progress but if you have any concerns or hesitations with the proposed changes, let me know.

thanks Thepwnco (talk) 19:38, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi, I'll take a more detailed look at your draft later but try to answer some questions now. Your concerns that the item might get edited or that there might be too many statements are not necessary because before a user takes the tour the whole item will be cleared and optionally some basic contents will be added to it. With Lydia I even discussed to create a new item every time a user takes the tour.

I'm really happy that you also take care of the overhaul principle - 'theming' - so that the tours get connected and make sense together. This is a very important aspect because we want ore users to stay and take as many tours as possible. This are my first answers for now, I'll answer the other questions later. --Bene* ^t_a^l_k 05:53, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the update! This is all sounds good for me. I look forward to your more detailed feedback. Thepwnco (talk) 19:40, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Hello again - just to let you know that Lydia_Pintscher_(WMDE) is happy to go live with Wikidata:Tours/Project_Plan_and_Content_Outline/Statements - let me know when you have time to discuss implementation! cheers, Thepwnco (talk) 18:33, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Cumarinia odorata (Q13218230)

Ist schon etwas länger her. Bitte wiederherstellen und das Zusammenführen rückgänig machen. Danke und Gruß --Succu (talk) 15:51, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

 Done; Links hab ich keine gefunden, die ausgebessert werden müssten. -- Bene* ^t_a^l_k 21:14, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Re: Congratulations, Dear Administrator

Hello

Thank you for introduction to adminship. I have a question - do we have a page with all usefull scripts and gadgets for admins? PMG (talk) 08:45, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi PMG, afaik there is only Wikidata:Tools and the admin section in Special:Preferences. However, it might be useful to have such an overview, maybe as another subpage of Wikidata:Tools. Bene* ^t_a^l_k 14:11, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Re:merging

I'm not an entomologist, but in en.wiki I see Celypha and Phiaris are synonyms. Bye --AttoRenato (talk) 09:01, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Two tours instead of three

Hello, I just wanted to let you know that I removed the first tour from Wikidata:Tours because the Items tour I created was mostly just duplicate content of it (albeit, updated and modified so it focused on Earth, not Paris). Please let me know that this is ok—I didn't want you to feel like I was deleting your work! Thanks again for all your awesome work with the tours. -Thepwnco (talk) 18:57, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

I thought I already removed all links to the old tours but apperently there were some left. Thanks for fixing this and of course it was ok. :-) -- Bene* ^t_a^l_k 23:16, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Import of sourced statements

Hi, the lack of sources in Wikidata appears to remain very much of a concern for Wikipedianers. What your bot did a few months ago was interesting, but I have not seen anything of late, is is there still anything going on ? --Zolo (talk) 12:12, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

At the moment my bot is not importing sources any more because the data set it worked on is already finished. It will take some work to adjust the code for other lists etc. but if you have a great amount of more or less structured references in Wikipedia I can try to import them asap. -- Bene* ^t_a^l_k 20:14, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Badges

Hi Bene*, should badges items be specific to a language (i.e. good article badge (Q17437798) for en.wikipedia.org only) or can they be used for several languages/project (good article badge (Q17437798) = "Bon article" on fr.wikipedia.org)? Thanks. — Ayack (talk) 08:11, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

The latter one. If there is an equivalent to good article in frwiki please use the same badge. -- Bene* ^t_a^l_k 10:53, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

OK, thanks! — Ayack (talk) 12:23, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

request - help with brainstorming Main page redesign!

hello again :) as you may know, I've been working on planning & implementation for a new Main page—for a mock-up of possible changes, see Wikidata:Portal_Redesign/draft.

You may notice that the language links have been moved from the top of the page. This is because they take up a lot of precious 'above the fold' space that probably could be better used. However, they *are* important and need to be prominent so that people understand it's a multilingual project. I was discussing with Lydia recently and she suggested you might be a good person to ask for insight and suggestions for how we could deal with this problem. One idea was to treat language links as a standard Wikimedia banner than can be collapsed by users...

I'd love to hear your thoughts! thanks in advance. -Thepwnco (talk) 17:44, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Hi, there was the suggestion to use the translate extension on the main page like it is done for all help pages etc. Then we'd have the buig box containing all languages on the top of the page anyway. However, we also might hide the box with some css and display the languages box in another way. What do you think about just displaying the page in the language the user currently has set? Then there is no need to add a languages box anyway because ULS can do that for us. -- Bene* ^t_a^l_k 17:58, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

user testing feedback for tours

Hello! I've summarized the feedback from three (non-Wikidata) users who agreed to run through both sets of tours for me. It can be found at Wikidata:Tours/Project_Plan_and_Content_Outline#Testing. Let me know if and how you would like us to address the feedback or if you think it's worth testing more people (IMO, it's likely that these same issues would be reported regardless of the # of people we test with) -Thepwnco (talk) 18:43, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

@Thepwnco: I have added some answers/comments to the suggestions. Maybe you have even better ideas how to improve the experience? -- Bene* ^t_a^l_k 20:21, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

apologies for the delay in getting back to you - I have now replied to your comments under a new section of the page, Proposed Changes based on Testing feedback. Let me know if I can start on the changes not needing any technical support (i.e. updates and review of content) and your thoughts on the other suggestions. Cheers, -Thepwnco (talk) 17:30, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Hello again - just nudging you about this to see if you've given thought to how we should proceed. -Thepwnco (talk) 16:29, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Special:Diff/148253886

Is there (new) consensus yet? I would be grateful if you have a link to a RFC or anything similiar for me. Thanks in advance, FDMS 21:52, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

What I found is "There are no namespace restrictions on linking items with galleries and categories." … FDMS 21:57, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Hi FDMS4, sorry if my revert feeled offensive, I thought this rule was obviously clear consensus. However, I found Wikidata:Commons#Com:category-w:category, com:gallery-w:article which tells " On hold Wikipedia article = Commons category". Furthermore, there was Wikidata:Requests for comment/Commons links in which this matter was discussed, too. Its outcome was, that point 1, "Direct link between article and Commons category […] fails for a lack of consensus."

Besides that your edit only creates redundant information because the commons category is already linked by a statement. Now if someone moves the category (just imagine) the information has to be fixed at two places. However, if we just have it at one place ie. the statement we still have the information and it could be easily moved to the sitelinks section if we decide that we want this but we avoid this evil redundancy. Do you understand my concerns? -- Bene* ^t_a^l_k 09:00, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

Sad, sad :) . It's not about the information, but about the sitelinks (which get updated automatically when a page gets moved anyway). There are already (again) several Commons categories I would like to add sitelinks to, now I have to wait until there is a solution (which could be a long time, right?). FDMS 09:40, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Moar tours!

Hello, hello,

I am trying to finalize the remaining tours content so when I'm no longer around here full-time they can be implemented with or without me :)

I think there are two that are more or less ready to go, see:

• the References Tour &
• the Qualifiers Tour

I've included comments in the markup for actions to be done during the tour. I think the only thing that is left to be done is creating a new population statement for the fake Earth item page. Let me know if you want to work on this together at any point, have questions, or else suggestions for where we should put this content so it can be picked up and worked on by other Wikidata users who so desire.

cheers. -Thepwnco (talk) 20:12, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Thepwnco, so how much time is left for us to work on that? I will try to implement the two tours as soon as possible in the next few days. -- Bene* ^t_a^l_k 17:03, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi Bene*, this week is officially my last working full-time with Wikidata but I'll still be contributing and around to answer questions at the end of it. I am hoping to launch the new Main page this week so I don't mind leaving the tours for now and working on the language links with you instead if that suits you too? -Thepwnco (talk) 17:18, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

We can work on what you think is more important at the moment. So if you think the main page has higher priority, lets do it. -- Bene* ^t_a^l_k 17:41, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Question for tools

Hello

Do you know any tools who are able to give me such results:

• show me all entries on wikidata, what have link to pl.wiki and have 0 properties (so in wikidata we don`t know what is that)
• show me top used qXXXX what don`t have labels (so when user come to any linked qXXX he don`t know whats that and he see only number).

Do you know anything about such tools or who would know? PMG (talk) 00:10, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

2. Terminator --Infovarius (talk) 08:26, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

Almost good :) PMG (talk) 11:32, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

This might perhaps be possible by some simple SQL queries. I'm however a bit busy at the moment so perhaps waiting for Magnus until he enables terminator for plwiki is the better option. -- Bene* ^t_a^l_k 17:02, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Rename request

Hi Bene*, how do I request for a rename here? Prenn (talk) 12:24, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

@Prenn: Just visit WD:BN. Vogone (talk) 14:52, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Vogone -- Bene* ^t_a^l_k 16:56, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Frage zum Bot

Hallo, hab [2] gesehen. Dein Bot hat da Links für family name (P734) von einem Namensitem Q17250340 (Familienname) auf ein Begriffsklärungsitem Q1428005 umgebogen. Konkret hätte das eine Item gar nicht gelöscht werden "dürfen", weils noch 3 oder 4 Links enthielt. Aber was den Bot angeht: Wärs nicht sinnvoller, wenn der erst prüfen würd ob das Zielitem instance of (P31)=Wikimedia disambiguation page (Q4167410) hat? und falls ja, dann die Links nicht abändern sondern entfernen würde? So landen die "korrigierten" items doch nur wieder auf einer constraint violations Seite. Holger1959 (talk) 14:50, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Hallo Holger1959, der Edit dieses Bots geht auf diesen Eintrag zurück und vollendet im Prinzip nur den Merge-Vorgang. Da das Item Q17250340 in das Item Q1428005 gemerget wurde, werden diese nun als identisch angesehen und alle Links werden auf das neue Item umgebogen. Anhand deiner Beschreibung könnte man eher vermuten, das der Merge falsch war, da eine Seite über einen Familiennamen wohl kaum eine Begriffsklärungsseite ist (oder doch?) -- Bene* ^t_a^l_k 16:52, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Movelinks.js

Hi Bene*, Your bot seems not to be running User:BeneBot*/movelinks.js anymore. Could you look into that? Kind regards, Lymantria (talk) 05:47, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi Lymantria, I fixed the bot and it should work again now. Thanks for reporting the issue. -- Bene* ^t_a^l_k 15:15, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, Bene*! Lymantria (talk) 11:02, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

Problem with Preview gadget on wikisource links :)

Hello Bene°,

As part of the Book project, Wikisource pages are begining to be imported here, but it's impossible to quickly preview them using the gadget.

Here and example with transcluded text : La Maison Tellier (Q3210330) and here with simple plain-text page Q17357868.

If you could fix it, it would be much easier to document the properties )

Thanks, --Hsarrazin (talk) 20:57, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

in most texts, there is no display at all - on Q17357167, strangely, the preview shows only references :D --Hsarrazin (talk) 06:26, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

An important message about renaming users

Dear Bene*,

I am cross-posting this message to many places to make sure everyone who is a Wikimedia Foundation project bureaucrat receives a copy. If you are a bureaucrat on more than one wiki, you will receive this message on each wiki where you are a bureaucrat.

As you may have seen, work to perform the Wikimedia cluster-wide single-user login finalisation (SUL finalisation) is taking place. This may potentially effect your work as a local bureaucrat, so please read this message carefully.

Why is this happening? As currently stated at the global rename policy, a global account is a name linked to a single user across all Wikimedia wikis, with local accounts unified into a global collection. Previously, the only way to rename a unified user was to individually rename every local account. This was an extremely difficult and time-consuming task, both for stewards and for the users who had to initiate discussions with local bureaucrats (who perform local renames to date) on every wiki with available bureaucrats. The process took a very long time, since it's difficult to coordinate crosswiki renames among the projects and bureaucrats involved in individual projects.

The SUL finalisation will be taking place in stages, and one of the first stages will be to turn off Special:RenameUser locally. This needs to be done as soon as possible, on advice and input from Stewards and engineers for the project, so that no more accounts that are unified globally are broken by a local rename to usurp the global account name. Once this is done, the process of global name unification can begin. The date that has been chosen to turn off local renaming and shift over to entirely global renaming is 15 September 2014, or three weeks time from now. In place of local renames is a new tool, hosted on Meta, that allows for global renames on all wikis where the name is not registered will be deployed.

Your help is greatly needed during this process and going forward in the future if, as a bureaucrat, renaming users is something that you do or have an interest in participating in. The Wikimedia Stewards have set up, and are in charge of, a new community usergroup on Meta in order to share knowledge and work together on renaming accounts globally, called Global renamers. Stewards are in the process of creating documentation to help global renamers to get used to and learn more about global accounts and tools and Meta in general as well as the application format. As transparency is a valuable thing in our movement, the Stewards would like to have at least a brief public application period. If you are an experienced renamer as a local bureaucrat, the process of becoming a part of this group could take as little as 24 hours to complete. You, as a bureaucrat, should be able to apply for the global renamer right on Meta by the requests for global permissions page on 1 September, a week from now.

In the meantime please update your local page where users request renames to reflect this move to global renaming, and if there is a rename request and the user has edited more than one wiki with the name, please send them to the request page for a global rename.

Stewards greatly appreciate the trust local communities have in you and want to make this transition as easy as possible so that the two groups can start working together to ensure everyone has a unique login identity across Wikimedia projects. Completing this project will allow for long-desired universal tools like a global watchlist, global notifications and many, many more features to make work easier.

If you have any questions, comments or concerns about the SUL finalisation, read over the Help:Unified login page on Meta and leave a note on the talk page there, or on the talk page for global renamers. You can also contact me on my talk page on meta if you would like. I'm working as a bridge between Wikimedia Foundation Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Stewards, and you to assure that SUL finalisation goes as smoothly as possible; this is a community-driven process and I encourage you to work with the Stewards for our communities.

Thank you for your time. -- Keegan (WMF) talk 18:24, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

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Wikidata:Tools/de

HI, kannst du mal da rübergucken, was falsch gelaufen ist (Die Admins gehören da definitiv nicht hin) LG von einem Jungwikipedianer--ApolloWissen (talk) 13:51, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

@ApolloWissen: Jo, da ist wohl was schief gelaufen. Hab es gefixt. Liebe Grüße, auch von einem JWP. :D -- Bene* ^t_a^l_k 19:40, 1 September 2014 (UTC) PS: Wie wär's mit ner neuen JWP-Aktion?

HI, danke für den fix. Ne neue JWP Aktion wäre gut, da hat mich gerade auch [[d:BD:ApolloWissen|Lómelinde drauf angesprochen :D LG --ApolloWissen (talk) 07:30, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Move.js request

Please: MediaWiki_talk:Gadget-Move.js#Move_All. Thank You! --FRacco (talk) 12:44, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi Bene, I think there is a bug in Move.js, please see MediaWiki_talk:Gadget-Move.js#Move_All_-_code_fix. Thanks in advance. --FRacco (talk) 16:20, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Lonely Items

Hi, I have noticed that the Lonely Items tool doesn't work (at least on my side). You can get to the main page but you won't get the result. Sometimes it is even difficult to get to the main page. Could you please take a look, this tool is very important? Thank you. Matěj Suchánek (talk) 12:47, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi, the tool works for me. However, you can only use it for not too large wikis, otherwise it will timeout because the SQL query is not efficient enough to handle millions of pages. What do you mean with main page? The form of the tool without any data should work fine. -- Bene* ^t_a^l_k 13:38, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

The main page is [3] (no query in URL). There are no problems now. I want to get some items for cswiki (400,000 connected items) but even if there is limit of 50, I can't get the result. It's strange because few months ago there were no such problems even with limit of 5000. Matěj Suchánek (talk) 14:08, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Although loading takes some time, this query works for me and gives me this output. -- Bene* ^t_a^l_k 17:37, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Referenzen in WD

Moin Bene,
ich hab mal bitte eine Frage zu deinen Änderungen bei
Martina Oertzen (Q15433304); und Günter Schwarz (Bürgermeister) (Q1561053);
Es geht um die Einzelnachweise oder Belege zu deinen Änderungen. Hast du die von-bis-Daten der DE-WP entnommen oder wie sind die belegt? Kann es sein, dass WD sich auf referenzlose WP-Informationen stützt und dann der WP-Artikel die unbelegten WD-Infos übernimmt? Kannst du mir das bitte erklären?
Gruß Pankoken (talk) 07:07, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Gadget-Search.js

Warum fügst Du bei MediaWiki:Gadget-Search.js + ' [g]' am Titel hinzu? updateTooltipAccessKeys() schneidet den Suffix wieder ab, sofern vorhanden, und fügt den richtigen Suffix an. Ich kann keinen Pfad erkennen, bei dem der manuelle Zusatz + ' [g]' notwendig wäre. Außer wenn MediaWiki:Brackets nicht mit [$1] befüllt wäre, denn dann würde das Abschneiden nicht funktionieren und ein doppelter Suffix würde entstehen. --Fomafix (talk) 10:36, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

@Fomafix: Danke, ich hatte mich tatsächlich vertan und dachte, man müsste einen default bereitstellen. Allerdings scheint per [4] der default sowieso "alt-" zu sein (ob das gut ist, ist eine andere Frage) und daher müssen wir nicht noch einen default bereitstellen. Danke für den Hinweis. :-) -- Bene* ^t_a^l_k 17:37, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

itemsbycat tool

Hello! This tool is not worked right now, e.g. [5] lists all categories as missing. Fix it please. Yesterday itemsbycat is worked fine. -- Sergey kudryavtsev (talk) 06:11, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

@Sergey kudryavtsev: so what is the problem? As far as I can see they are missing in Wikidata and don't have an item associated yet. -- Bene* ^t_a^l_k 10:26, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

When i was wrote to you, absolutely ALL categories was in "Missing items". Several days later i checked this link again, and all categories was in "Missing items". But now is all ok. This seems as some kind of temporary problem... -- Sergey kudryavtsev (talk) 10:44, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Cleaning-tool

Hi do you have time for developing cleaning-tool.Yamaha5 (talk) 21:04, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

I'm not sure if I have time for that because I'm mainly working on the Wikibase software itself currently but maybe I will have some time left. -- Bene* ^t_a^l_k 10:25, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Die WikiEulenAcademy gratuliert zur Nominierung für die NewcomerEule

Hallo Benutzer:Bene*,

natürlich hast du es schon mitbekommen: als fleißiger Entwickler und für dein Engagement in Sachen Wikidata warst du als „Newcomer“ für die WikiEule 2014 nominiert. Du bist daher berechtigt folgenden Babel zu führen:

Dieser Benutzer war nominiert für die NewcomerEule 2014.

Die WikiEulenAcademy dankt dir für dein Engagement und gratuliert sehr herzlich zur Nominierung für eine WikiEule. Wir wünschen viel Freude mit dem Babel und hoffen auf weitere großartige Beiträge.

Mit lieben Grüßen,
die WikiEulenAcademy (talk) 19:52, 10 October 2014 (UTC) x-posted

movelinks.js#Open requests

Hallo Bene*, könntest du bitte mal einen Blick auf movelinks.js#Open requests werfen. Meine letzten beiden Wünsche warten schon einige Zeit auf Bearbeitung. Danke und Gruß --Succu (talk) 09:24, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Habs eingefügt, danke für den Hinweis. -- Bene* ^t_a^l_k 10:24, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Danke, aber der Auftrag Move links from Limnophila (Q14565573) to Limnophila (Q6549792) (redirect) wird trotzdem nicht ausgeführt. Hast du eine Idee woran das liegt? Die mehr als 200 Weiterleitungen stören ziemlich bei einem Constraint-Report. Schönen Sonntag, --Succu (talk) 06:53, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Weiß ich auf Anhieb nicht, da muss ich mal in die logs schauen. Allerdings sollten die Constraint Violations Weiterleitungen automatisch auflösen. -- Bene* ^t_a^l_k 12:28, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Das Problem besteht leider immer noch (s. Wikidata:Database_reports/Constraint_violations/P171#.22Value_type_Taxon_.28Q16521.29.22_violations). Gruß --Succu (talk) 07:54, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

movelinks.js

Hi Bene*, User:BeneBot*/movelinks.js has quite a backlog. It seems that your bot does not perform the link changes anymore? The history shows only "0 changes" in recent edits by BeneBot*. Can you look into it? Kind regards, Lymantria (talk) 06:56, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Tour

Just FYI, I cannot get the tour to work. I enter but the overlying page gets stuck in download mode (constant circle icon). Im looking a Wikidata as an option for a major project at my campus next March. Thank you! Thelmadatter (talk) 21:34, 26 November 2014 (UTC)