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Duplicates for binomial names

Do you have a list of such items? My bot could merge them even faster... ;-) --Ricordisamoa 07:47, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

I am currently checking all items in nl:Categorie:Characidae, and about 80-90% of them has seperate wikidata-items for nl-sv+ and for es-ca. Since the scientific names are identical, perhaps your bot can grasp these items more easily, but I do manually check them first. What do you think? Lymantria (talk) 07:51, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

My bot can also ensure that all sitelinks are equal; I'm trying... --Ricordisamoa 07:55, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Okay, would be great. I will stop (as far as only binomial names are involved) now and see what you come up with. Kind regards, Lymantria (talk) 07:56, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

 merged and  deleted! --Ricordisamoa 08:16, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Great! If I find more of these categories (I am certain I will) I will let you know. Kind regards, Lymantria (talk) 08:18, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! --Ricordisamoa 08:21, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Update: I've found nl:Categorie:Kopstaande (example)... --Ricordisamoa 04:53, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

And added to that I looked into nl:Categorie:Afrikaanse karperzalm, which can also be added. My guess is that all (other) subcategories of nl:Categorie:Karperzalmachtige are worth checking and perhaps your bot can do so. Kind regards, Lymantria (talk) 07:48, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

 Doing… nl:Categorie:Afrikaanse karperzalm, thanks! --Ricordisamoa 08:05, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

 Doing… nl:Categorie:Slankzalm, too. --Ricordisamoa 08:24, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

And  Doing… nl:Categorie:Hoogrugzalm, of course. --Ricordisamoa 08:34, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Lymantria (talk) 08:39, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

And nl:Categorie:Echte piranha! --Ricordisamoa 09:25, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

+nl:Categorie:Brede zalm as well. --Ricordisamoa 10:23, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

+nl:Categorie:Grondzalm. --Ricordisamoa 10:28, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

This has become a relevant improvement. I have checked some more fish-categories, but until now no more severe merging needed. Lymantria (talk) 13:02, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

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--Ricordisamoa 08:59, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Looks good. Lymantria (talk) 09:35, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Merging

Hi Lymantria, please do not merge items with different taxon ranks (eg. Heloderma (Q729412) / Helodermatidae (Q13417716) or Xenopeltis (Q736378) / Xenopeltis (Q13416845)) because this causes a constraint violation. If something is wrong move the sitelinks instead. --Succu (talk) 07:57, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Please accept my apologies, I will be more careful. In both cases you mention above there were no wiki-items involved in merging, only properties. Since items of both family and genus level were in the two "container" items, I thought to do good. My apologies again. I will try to split the two items now. Kind regards, Lymantria (talk) 08:10, 3 November 2013 (UTC) (Xenopeltis (Q736378)  Done <Except there may be wrong labels for languages I can't see>

Adminship

You have made a lot of deletion requests. Maybe adminship can help you.--GZWDer (talk) 09:23, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

You may be right and I am not planning to stop doing deletion requests soon and others have to complete them. I will do a request for Adminship some day soon (and I would accept a nomination). Thank you. Kind regards, Lymantria (talk) 09:29, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

I have made a nomination there.--GZWDer (talk) 11:10, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

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The Anonymouse [talk] 18:15, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, Anonmymouse! And thank you, voters! Lymantria (talk) 20:50, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Proficiat! Trijnstel (talk) 13:15, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Thnks, Trijnstel! Lymantria (talk) 15:36, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Merging items

Hi, I noticed that you reverted a couple of moves I'd done (e.g. in Q10265844) in order to maintain the item with the lowest #. I made my choice based on Help:Merge#Select recipient item, which states that "... one item is selected to be the recipient of the sitelinks and properties. This is usually the item that is used more often (possible indicators are links to the items or the number of sitelinks and statements it has)." From this I understand that keeping the newer item is not a problem at all, and would save you a lot of extra work. ;) Best, Capmo (talk) 13:35, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. Kind regards, Lymantria (talk) 13:38, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Bedankt

Dag Lymantria. Nee, die lijst kende ik niet. Bedankt dat u me daar even op wees. Maar ik moet er meteen aan toevoegen dat ik niet van plan ben om 14.000 titels door te nemen. Wat op mijn pad komt, pak ik aan, en verder... [hier haal ik m'n schouders op] Nogmaals bedankt voor het meedenken. Met vr.gr. Ieneach fan 'e Esk (talk) 16:03, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Dat snap ik :). Ik zal er wel stukjes van doen. Groet, Lymantria (talk) 16:16, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Merging request

Hi. These items are about the same topic.[1] [2] Could you please merge them? Thanks in advance.--B.S.R.F. ^💬 09:20, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

 Done Thank you for mentioning! One of the English language links pointed to a redirect, merging was unproblematic after removing that one. Kind regards, Lymantria (talk) 09:46, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi again. Q5643835 and Q15020841 need to be merged. Could you do that? Thanks and have a nice day.--B.S.R.F. ^💬 16:23, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

I am sorry, that won't be possible. At least arwiki and idwiki have links in both items. The items don't seem to be exactly the same: "news event" and "(historical) event". Kind regards, Lymantria (talk) 17:12, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Q16354985

Please, restore Q16354985. User:NOSSER merged it with Q102496, but it isn't corrent. In Latvian "Draudzes novads" isn't same as "draudze".--Treisijs (talk) 19:34, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

 Done Thank you for mentioning. Lymantria (talk) 21:09, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Mollia (Q9034262)

Hi Lymantria, this merge mixed a plant and an animal. ;) Please undo it. Thanks. --Succu (talk) 18:06, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

 Done Thanks. Lymantria (talk) 18:48, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Merge Q9969825 -> Q8817247

Lymantria, it seems that you have deleted the wrong item. Infovarius (talk) 21:10, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Seems I made a mishit, I can rememeber to have checked this one. Restored it. Thanks for mentioning. Kind regards, Lymantria (talk) 05:09, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Lipochaeta (Q15146647)

Another plant/animal mix. Please undo it. Thanks. --Succu (talk) 09:36, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

 Done Lymantria (talk) 11:04, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Barnstar of Dilligence
		Thanks for your hard work at RFD! Jianhui67 talk★contribs 12:31, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Thank you!! Lymantria (talk) 13:54, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Redirect or deletion

Hi Lymantria. I am rather confused now. I saw that you and I were the only ones who redirected the duplicated item, while the others delete them. So which is better? Redirect or deletion? Jianhui67 ^{talk★contribs} 10:17, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Luckily we are not indeed the only two admins who do redirect at RfD for merging results. I think that is the preferred way to handle merged files. Some of the administrators however still prefer deletion. A problem is that redirecting is not always as easy as deletion. There is no choice for redirection in the user interface, and sometimes the item is not empty enough and need to be emptied first. For that reason there is not yet a guideline to whether deletion or redirecting is preferred. I think redirecting is more elegant, there are less problems with backlinks and the link to the removed item is still valid from outside wikidata. There are some problem however as well. I think soon a RfC will be started, perhaps I will start it myself. Kind regarsd, and thank you for the many good things you do on wikidata! Lymantria (talk) 10:27, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

I think a RFC should be started now to prevent such problems in the future. There are already clashes between redirection and deletion now. Redirecting actually helps non-admins to correct merging mistakes easily, rather than posting an undeletion request at AN. Therefore, I also prefer redirection to deletion. Jianhui67 ^{talk★contribs} 10:38, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

I will soon start one. It needs some thinking on my behalf before doing it. Kind regards, Lymantria (talk) 10:40, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

 Done Lymantria (talk) 12:30, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Tanaecia (Q13846231)

Hi Lymantria, links to Tanaecia (Q13846231) (now a redirect) should be replaced with Tanaecia (Q6138601). Thanks. --Succu (talk) 06:29, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Yes, indeed, my understanding is that this (replacing links to redirects) is done botwise by KrBot regularly. Indeed in this case it has been done already. Kind regards, Lymantria (talk) 08:40, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Explain

Could you explain your reasoning behind this please? --AmaryllisGardener ^talk 18:04, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

I wasn't aware of this. Must have been an accidental touch of a button. My apologies. Lymantria (talk) 18:11, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

P.S. This was an example of the danger of using a tablet/iPad.

תיאטרון גבעתיים (Q18192252)

Hello Lymantria,

What is the problem with my edits? Geagea (talk) 16:49, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

You merged articles in "main" namespace with "category:" namespace on wikimedia commons. That shouldn't be done. Kind regards, Lymantria (talk) 16:51, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

there is no main page in Commons. only category.Geagea (talk) 16:53, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Not so, there are so called "galleries". See for example Commons:Jerusalem. See also Wikidata:Notability 1. fourth bullet. Kind regards, Lymantria (talk) 16:56, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Jerusalem yes, Tiberias yse but there is no chace that sombody will make gallery for Givatayim theater. if there is galery fine but there are a lot of small articles in commons that nobady going to make gallery fot them. Geagea (talk) 17:01, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

I know, but it's an agreed policy here on wikidata, so I stay with it. By the way, for this Givatayim theater I can imagine a gallery (only needed: more than one photograph!). Lymantria (talk) 17:04, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

It is wrong. more than that there is no category for Givatayim theatre in wikis so all the file in common will stay orphan. You are in Commons and you understand that a lot of commons categorys will stay orphen and will be usless. Geagea (talk) 17:07, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Agreed. But it IS policy. Lymantria (talk) 17:18, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

The rule of wikidata is not to encourage us to do one way or another by to help managing. That is no god policy and it should be changed, otherwise commons not need wikida we can use the old way. This is ridiculous. We have to help people to find there way to wiki articles and not avoid them to do so. thank for your patience. Geagea (talk) 17:34, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

FYI: I agree for the greatest part with your observation and opinion. Lymantria (talk) 17:45, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Can you direct me to the policy her in wikidata and in commons? Geagea (talk) 18:19, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Wikidata:Notability here in wikidata, I don't know in Commons. Lymantria (talk) 18:59, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Merging items

Hello! I know that the policy has changed but it says that items should be redirected, so then can be deleted. Using commons sense, the items that I listed were items about categories in Asturian Wikipedia with wrong names, and not linked to any other page in any Wikimedia project. They are not used and the item is empty. I don't see any sense to create a redirection. --Millars (talk) 10:51, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

In your requests, you told the items were merged (not wrongly named). In merging cases they are redirected. IF a category had a wrong name and is renamed, then still a redirect can be useful. Kind regards, Lymantria (talk) 12:43, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

I meaned the Wikidata items were merged, not the Wikipedia ones. I don't see that they could be useful. For example, I found that Q15333661 was for the same concept that Q9517868. What should I do? You told me "You can use merge.js to establish that" but that sounds Greek to me. --Millars (talk) 12:09, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

I fixed that redirect from Q15333661 to Q9517868. I used that Greek "merge.js", as it was explained by cycn on your talk page. You can use Merge.js to merge items as well as redirect to the target. Redirecting is policy for merged items. Kind regards, Lymantria (talk) 15:30, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Q18780030

Hi! Just to let you know I have restored Q18780030. Your reason for deletion referenced the talk page and notability and presumably the message from Denny saying "Freebase should not be a sufficient reason for establishing notability". The item however contains another references, thus I have restored it. ·addshore· ^{talk to me!} 16:42, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

OK. Lymantria (talk) 08:18, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Barnstar of Dilligence
		Thank you for your gnomish work on deletions of empty items! There will always be more, so get your guns ready. :P Jianhui67 talk★contribs 16:44, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Lymantria (talk) 08:09, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Anatomie du cheval

Sorry for disturbing, and thanks for having merged the items about horse anatomy. I just want to ask where I can go to see with the Merge Gadget problem (I don't have any acces to it). Bloubéri (talk) 19:09, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

You should go to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets, check the first item (Merge) and save. Reload and you can use it! When you visit an item, next to the search box you should find the possibility to merge with another item. Kind regards, Lymantria (talk) 19:54, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

I already knew that. That's what I did a couple of times ago. But since recently I don't see the access to the tool. So I tried to uncheck, save and then tried to re-check and save, but the path didn't appear.... Bloubéri (talk) 00:53, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

And you don't have a downward arrow left (triangle in fact) of your search box, where it is hidden? Then I really don't know how to help. Kind regards, Lymantria (talk) 06:07, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Yes. Do you know where I can expose the situation? Anyway, thanks for trying to help. Bloubéri (talk) 21:57, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

I'm sorry. Lymantria (talk) 05:56, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Q18907534

Hi, may I know why Q18907534 has been removed? There a lot of sources talking about "Danilo Petrozzi" (ie. Freebase, italian interviews and so on). The main source that think that Danilo Petrozzi is notable is Google itself. If you search for that name, Google shows the Knowledge Graph box (example here) On Google.it (Italy), if you ask Google questions like "how tall is Danilo Petrozzi" (in italian) it also shows quick answer boxes on the top (example here) Isn't that enough? --Mylo (talk) 13:57, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Freebase is not a reliable source, Google gets his information from things like Freebase. Sjoerd de Bruin (talk) 14:00, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

The notability page says "The entity must be notable, in the sense that it can be described using serious and publicly available references." First of all, it doesn't say that the entity must be notable in english speaking countries or that sources should be in english too. But anyway, can you please tell me exactly what is serious and publicly available reference? When a publicly available reference isn't serious? Thank you --Mylo (talk) 14:09, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Google nor Freebase are sources enough to have someone proven notable here. Wow, you are 1,85 m in height. So what? Please, stop selfpromoting here. If you want yourself on Wikidata, first let an article on you be written in Italian language wikipedia. That would be enough te appear here. Lymantria (talk) 16:38, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Paraguayan War casualties (Q7134701)

Hi there! I noticed you redirected Q9712406 to Paraguayan War casualties (Q7134701) when in fact they are different things. "Causas da Guerra do Paraguai" means causes for the Paraguayan War, not casualties of the Paraguayan War. Thanks. Pikolas (talk) 15:49, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Corrected. Thanks for mentioning. Lymantria (talk) 19:48, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Wiki13

Zie hier, gebruikers lijken de handtekening van Wiki13 hier bovenaan te volgen. Beide items betreffen echter jou. Sjoerd de Bruin (talk) 09:08, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Vreemd. Aldaar beantwoord. Lymantria (talk) 09:16, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Deletion request

Sorry for causing trouble. As you can check in the item Q16513089 history I've first removed "link to [bswikiquote]: Saint-Simone" (before adding it to Q82934), but then I messed up by accidentally adding to it label "Mykola Livytskyi (engineer)" and link to ukwikiquote, while at the same time creating in another browser tab new item for the same label (Q20087147). I though that I created two items for the same thing and did not realized that actually I've overwritten old one Q16513089 instead of creating it. Thus I filled two deletion requests for the same Item and when you looked at it you just saw that I requested deleting unrelated item. --Pavlo Chemist (talk) 16:58, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

I hope I have corrected now. Kind regards, Lymantria (talk) 18:07, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

perfect, thanks! --Pavlo Chemist (talk) 20:29, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

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Q15226655 undelete

Can you undelete https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q15226655&action=edit&redlink=1 ? Eldizzino (talk) 20:36, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Yes. Lymantria (talk) 21:13, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Lijst van nummer 1-hits in Portugal in 2013/4/5

Hallo Lymantria, please do not merge Q2762993 with Q20267688 (and so on) because they cover different topics. The Dutch list is about an inofficial singles chart, the German list deals with the official albums chart of Portugal. Both charts have not much in common, they should not be mixed up in one article and therefore should not link to each other. Thanks -- HvW (talk) 18:58, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

OK My apologies. Lymantria (talk) 19:10, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Q16855166

Op de RfD pagina heb je deze gemarkeerd als verwijderd, maar het item bestaat nog steeds. Ben je het vergeten te verwijderen of heb je het onterecht gemarkeerd? Mbch331 (talk) 19:33, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

Ik was hem vergeten te verwijderen! Bedankt. Lymantria (talk) 06:25, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Undelete Q20155578

Can you please undelete https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q20155578 ? Raysup99

For what reason? To me your item seems to have the main objective to have a company listed in wikidata, as to gain more attention. This is why I deleted is as "advertising". Lymantria (talk) 05:02, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

I followed the instructions from Freebase to migrate data over to Wikidata, as they publicly announced. I'm happy to scale back the posting or make whatever changes necessary. I don't have any advertising intentions for this. Raysup99 (talk) 16:03, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Being in Freebase doesn't make an item notable per se. I still do not see why the company should be in wikidata and on companies we are cautious becuase more often than we like this type of items is a kind of advertising. Being in wikidata gives some status. Lymantria (talk) 05:19, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

Characters from Plus belle la vie

Hi, last night an editor did make a bulk deletion request on characters from Plus belle la vie that seem perfectly notable to me. I asked him why, but before we had a chance to discuss the matter, you deleted the entries. May I ask you what was the emergency? -Ash Crow (talk)

No emergency different from deciding on the request, the deletions requests on the requests for deletion page usually are decided on immediately. Non of the items contained a source and as being unsourced they are not notable IMHO. If you think you can provide good sourcing, items can be restored. Lymantria (talk) 05:15, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

If the statements are not sourced, then source them (you can use IMDb for that, in this case), don't delete the item. Besides, they still meet the third criterion of WD:N. -Ash Crow (talk) 09:51, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

If you think I will restore and fill in sources, you make a mistake. I offered you above that I will restore items if you provide source, and your reply to that offer is a rejection with a slap in the face as that I was acting wrongly. The third WD:N criterion is a weak argument, the items did not really fulfill a structural need. But well, offer rejected, case closed as far as I am concerned. Lymantria (talk) 10:00, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Well, I did provide you a source: IMDb. These items do fulfill a a structural need (we need them for the distribution on more than 500 episodes.) I can and will restore them myself, thanks. -Ash Crow (talk) 10:46, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

 Restored Lymantria (talk) 11:44, 8 July 2015 (UTC) P.S. I dislike your attacking style of trying to reach consensus.

Request to revert merges on gene pages in protein pages

It is now possible to use content from WikiData to drive infoboxes in English Wikipedia. 1. A lot of articles on the English Wikipedia pages are linked to wikidata items about proteins, rather than to wikidata items about genes.2 When diving into the matter I have noticed that quite some gene pages are being merged into protein pages. Gene names should "start with a lower case letter unless it is a person's name describing a disease/phenotype or a capitalised abbreviation gene names. I suspect that the decision to merge the pages was driven by the similarity in names, with only the minor difference in the gene pages not having a capital first letter. Something can never be both a gene and a protein. Some of the merges came from you, would it be possible to revert these? (e.g. Q783442 Q390767 Q5104298 Q5469818, etc.) Andrawaag (talk) 13:09, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Strange that I seem to have overlooked that. It seems I was focused too much on Entrez and Ensembl coding. I am in the process of reverting my merges. However, I noted some of the items still have both protein and gene claims. Lymantria (talk) 13:41, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

 Done Lymantria (talk) 14:33, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! Indeed 130 remain I am going to look into those.Andrawaag (talk) 19:37, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Qualifier proposal

Hi, just read your not on PfD: maybe you are interested in this. --- Jura 11:35, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. Lymantria (talk) 16:53, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Italian Wikvoyage categories

Hi Lymantria, I've noticed that you have linked some of our categories that are automatically created by a template present in all our "real place" articles. I don't know if it was a manual activity, but in case you use a script, I would ask you to check all our categories because differently from the articles I'm quite sure that there are a lot not connected with Wikidata. Thanks, --Andyrom75 (talk) 10:41, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Ops, just noticed in the history that you have modified other properties. I' sorry for the confusion, however, if you can automatically add those cateogries it would be great :-) --Andyrom75 (talk) 10:45, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Hello Andyrom75, I didn't do an automatic check, but I can see if I have some time in the near future to dive into semi-automaticly adding those categories. Lymantria (talk) 12:42, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

NGC objects

Hi,

I don't think it's a good idea to create a specific category for each NGC object and to suppress the commons category on the object itself. Doing so, we loose all the interlanguage links on the commons category and on the NGC object in each Wikipedia. And for what ? For a category on bs wikipedia ? Normally, a category serve to put stuff in it and there's nothing to put in a NGC category. Simon Villeneuve (talk) 20:20, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

I follow Wikidata:Notability: "... an item with only a sitelink to a category page in Wikimedia Commons is not allowed on main article items. However, it is allowed to link Wikimedia Commons categories with categories in other Wikimedia sites in items." Lymantria (talk) 20:32, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

I say to you that it is nonsense to do that here. Your bs category is empty, will stay empty and will have no interwiki link. On the other way, we loose a lot of interwiki links. That kind of contribution is pretty like vandalism. Simon Villeneuve (talk) 22:14, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Noted. Disagreed. Lymantria (talk) 08:05, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

See also here and here for some discussion on the topic. Lymantria (talk) 08:41, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

Sir and Star has a page on the English Wikipedia

Please do not delete the Wikidata page for Sir and Star as it has a page on the English Wikipedia which I am unable to link to.

I created a new Wikidata page for Sir and Star but still cannot link to Wikipedia article.

Re: Q21491087

Sir and Star on Wikipedia.

Can you restore the page on Wikidata that I already worked on?

Cheers! Checkingfax (talk) 10:17, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

 Done Undeleted the item (and those of the owners) and merged it with the new item you created. Also added the link to enwiki. Due to the missing sitelink the article didn't meet WD:N. Don't know what your issue was with adding the sitelink, didn't have any problem. Mbch331 (talk) 13:22, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, Mbch331. Lymantria (talk) 15:14, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Q2312674

Eh, right: Sportdriektor is not Sportlicher Leiter.

But: (de)Sportlicher Leiter is (fr+en)directeur sportif. All are memebers of a cycling team.

(de)Sportdirektor is not a member of a cycling team.

But: (de)Sportdirektor (not cycling) is linked with (fr+en)directeur sportif (cycling). Why?

And: (de)Sportlicher Leiter (cycling) isn't linked with (fr+en)directeur sportif (cycling) Why?)

kind regards--RikVII (talk) 19:54, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi RikVII, I think I solved this by Q21591285 and Q838476. Lymantria (talk) 20:15, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

Thx, well done!--RikVII (talk) 20:19, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

Q816353 and Q21777038

These entries, Q816353 and Q21777038 are Bemani, taken from Japanese Wikipedia. Wrong interwikies by Mbch331's intervention in Q816353, and Bemani (japanese Wikipedia) should are moved to Q21777038. Bemani (Spanish Wikipedia) is near to japanese Wikipedia. --VR0 (talk) 02:45, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

I moved the eswiki-link. For the rest the articles which are mainly a list of games and the articles in broader sense should be in seperate items. Lymantria (talk) 07:04, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Mix n' match catalog

Hi Lymantria, i saw a message you left in Magnus talk page about a catalog you just included in the software and wanted to ask for your help importing one: Recently was approved as a property the ID of the database autores.uy (ids of uruguayan authors): Property:P2558 I would need to upload the xml export of that database into mix n' match and start to work including the IDs in the existing items, or creating new items if they do not exist. Could you guide me in my firsts steps in this task?. I don't even know how to import that catalog. Sorry.--Zeroth (talk) 17:09, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

Well, I'm not exactly an expert. This was my first import :). I used this link and in fact it turned out to be fairly easy - only I changed order somehow... I suppose it will work for you as well. Kind regards, Lymantria (talk) 17:35, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

Reply:Vandalism

Hello.Sorry, The Automatic translation made me think that the page speak for University --ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2 (talk) 14:10, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

No problem. Perhaps not rely on automatic translation. Lymantria (talk) 15:03, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

I'm not talking except Arabic, and automatic translation helps me to translate Stubs from English Wikipedia into Arabic, and to contribute to Commons and Wikidata.Thank you --ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2 (talk) 16:40, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

I understand. I use automatic translation sometimes as well. Lymantria (talk) 17:42, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

ARKive

You appear to have archived the proposal of an ARKive property, without weighing up the discussion there. Please undo that, and create the property. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:01, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

Ah, that's what went wrong. I will restore the ARKive property proposal, but I will not create it, as I think more discussion would be good. The removal was accidental - I thought the discussion on this zoological name is coordinate with (P2743) was not moved properly, but I think I have seen an unupdated version of the proposal page. Thanks for mentioning. Lymantria (talk) 16:22, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

New Zealand Organisms Register ID (P2752)

Hi Lymantria! I fixed some mismatches I found. I think I can start my bot tomorrow to import the ids from NZOR. So you'll have time to do other things. ;) --Succu (talk) 15:59, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Thank you, Succu. I found some mismatches myself as well and repaired them. Let your bot run, good job! Lymantria (talk) 16:01, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

It's funny to see the bot at work (Web Service Usage). --Succu (talk) 20:57, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Wow. Seems like there's been another bot a month ago :D. Lymantria (talk) 20:59, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Place of marriage

Hi Lymantria,

Just wondering, why has this been closed already?
--- Jura 11:24, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

Please, see the following edit... My apologies. Lymantria (talk) 11:25, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

Just noticed that. No problem. It was a bit odd given that the only oppose was of a user I had been asked to ignore.
--- Jura 11:27, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

Right, but another user implicitly opposed as well. But that discussion has to have more time. Apparently I was too eager to do something about the Property-proposal backlog and thought to have read "March" in stead of "April".... Lymantria (talk) 11:30, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

Implicitly maybe, but currently all three variants are used. There are few points that still need to be addressed. Srittau did a good job with the backlog. There are the eternal requests on the economics subpage, but as they seem less likely to be used anyways ..
--- Jura 11:42, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

Well, for me property creation is relatively new, but I realized that Srittau (who's doing a very good job indeed) cannot do all on his own. So 10 days ago I created my first property :). I focused on authority control and natural science first. I will give economy a look as well. Lymantria (talk) 12:16, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

I think we are all still learning (hopefully). Authority control property are generally quite strait forward even though we still need to sort out some of the older ones (datatype conversion). I think the problem at Wikidata_talk:WikiProject_Economics#Sample_items.3F still stands. Personally, I don't see much use in creating and maintaining properties even the proposer isn't going to use. BTW, to allow for several formatter urls per property, currently we add code to MediaWiki:Gadget-AuthorityControl.js.
--- Jura 18:16, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

Yes, some of the properties are hardly used, and some of the proposed Economy ones are quite difficult to get good data for. I agree that it is not of much use to create properties that are sparsely or not used. I think Wikidata:Project chat/Archive/2016/03#Dormant properties was a good try to draw attention to this problem. Perhaps a minimum use requirement should be made. I would expect a property to be used in at least say 25 items within 6 months after creation. Do I understand your remark on formatter urls correctly, that in the future different items like FIS alpine skier ID (P2772), FIS cross-country skier ID (P2773), FIS freestyle skier ID (P2774), FIS ski jumper ID (P2775), FIS Nordic combined skier ID (P2776), and FIS snowboarder ID (P2777) can be combined into one? Lymantria (talk) 07:25, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

I think the problem with the Economics properties is that one might need to create a consistent set of tens of properties and then attempt to use it on a series of items. As for formatter urls, it should already be possible. One just needs to write the necessary js. For most properties the information is already available at Wikipedia and 25 uses should be doable without too much effort. BTW, could you create this one.
--- Jura 19:14, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

I think you are right that it would be good to see the full amount of economics properties used in a few examples. But I have my doubts, because many of the properties are about entities that are changing all the time. In itself that is not a problem, but there should be a good plan for maintenance (by "a" bot - hmmm). And not in all cases I am convinced that there are reliable and compatible sources. Lymantria (talk) 20:00, 2 May 2016 (UTC) PS will dive into the proposal you point to. I don't mind if someone deals with my proposals...

I asked you a question first. Too bad you didn't gain a {{Support}}. Lymantria (talk) 20:17, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Place of marriage (2)

place of marriage (P2842) is done. --Tobias1984 (talk) 19:09, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

voy

Hi Lymantria, If you have a moment, would you kindly look into the proposals at Wikidata:Property_proposal/Sister_projects#Wikivoyage?
--- Jura 04:30, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

I am very limited in time for a couple of days. After that I will certainly act on a couple of the voy-proposals. Lymantria (talk) 11:46, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

Sounds good. If you create them, I can add do the documentation and samples.
--- Jura 11:50, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

First is done. Lymantria (talk) 14:00, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

I see there are a couple of short weeks among those proposals as well :) Lymantria (talk) 20:57, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

Well, that partially appears that way as K7L didn't sign his proposals ;)
--- Jura 21:18, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

Ah okay. Lymantria (talk) 06:41, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

Invitation to Wikidata user study

Dear Lymantria,
I am a researcher of the Web and Internet Science group of the University of Southampton.
Together with a group of other researchers from the same University, we are currently conducting a research aiming to discover how newcomers become full participants into the Wikidata community. We are interested in understanding how the usage of tools, the relationships with the community, and the knowledge and application of policy norms change from users' first approach to Wikidata to their full integration as fully active participants.
This study will take place as an interview, either by videotelephony, e.g. Skype, phone, or e-mail, according to the preference of the interviewees. The time required to answer all the questions will likely be about an hour. Further information can be found on the Research Project Page Becoming Wikidatians: evolution of participation in a collaborative structured knowledge base.
Any data collected will be treated in the strictest confidentiality, no personal information will be processed for the purpose of the research. The study, which has submission number 20117, has received ethical approval following the University of Southampton guidelines.
We aim at gathering about 20 participants, chosen among experienced Wikidata users who authored a large number of contributions.
Should you be interested in taking part or wish to receive further information, you can contact us by writing to the e-mail address ap1a14+wikidata_user_study@ecs.soton.ac.uk.
Thank you very much, your help will be much appreciated!
--Alessandro Piscopo (talk) 22:58, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

New property

Thanks for creating Property:P2865, I just submitted another proposal basically for the same thing, an official government numerical identifier, but for the Indian reserves: Wikidata:Property proposal/Organization#Indian reserve number. Can you check it please? Thanks, Amqui (talk) 17:07, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

I will. Please bear in mind that a proposal lasts for at least a week. Kind regards, Lymantria (talk) 17:10, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, I was looking for this information, how long they need to be, and I didn't find it. Amqui (talk) 17:26, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

Records

Hi Lymantria,

Following your comment, I had another look at the proposals for records. I had looked at them twice before without being able to come up with a sensible comment. So, feel free to ignore this. As I don't think I will contribute in the field, I probably shouldn't comment in the discussion there. Use of sample items with the term "progression" in the English labels don't make the discussion easy to digest. I'm not even sure if this should be in the item labels at Wikidata.

Personally, I'd probably suggest a solution like [men's 100 metres world record] (some quantity property for performance) [performance] <qualifier to name a person> <holder>. Maybe "world record" could be in the label for the property for the performance. At least, this would make it easy to determine what is the current world record and when was it set.
--- Jura 07:31, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

The "record or record progression" proposal I think has majority support. With olympic games this summer, still I think it would be a good one. The other record proposals don't. Most of them I have withdrawn, but not the "record holder" one, because I don't agree with the objections made. But I don't mind if another property creator decides that it will not be created.

Thnks for the note on WD:AN. Lymantria (talk) 08:20, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

record or record progression (P2869) is there, please make good use of it.
--- Jura 05:22, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

Thank you! Lymantria (talk) 06:24, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

Removing comments

Hello Lymantria. I see that you are removing some comments which I added earlier. How can i put that comment at that item correct. I'm not that into every kind of properties being used here, and some properties are not that well explained/translated the difference on where there are simlarity wording in for example in english. Is it correct to use the Wikidata usage instructions (P2559) instead of comment (DEPRECATED) (P2315) for that comment you removed ? Best regards Migrant (talk) 22:46, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

Hello Migrant, In fact comment (DEPRECATED) (P2315) is meant for comments on constraints of properties, while Wikidata usage instructions (P2559) are meant for properties only as well. I think you can best add the comments (for instance on errors in sources) at the item talk page. Lymantria (talk) 06:50, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

Lymantria, I really think that is hiding the comments too far away from the fact and can easily be missed during the transfer from Wikidata to the wikipedias. The comments made should be a note to the property and not a comment on a different page. Who will bring that comment/info/note into the wikipedia-article from there ? And the comment/info/note should be a dated one since there can be an update externally after the comment/info/note was made. Migrant (talk) 07:38, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

Ok, I understand the importance of your additions, so I put them back (hopefully complete). But the way they are put now is not "structured data". Therefore it cant stay this way, I think. Perhaps you should propose a property "error note" to explain errors in links at external identifiers or sources. You could propose it for instance at Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic. Lymantria (talk) 08:43, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

Q21542686

Hello.How important is the item without links?Thank you --ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2 (talk) 15:43, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

It is notable by the second criterium of Wikidata:Notability: "It refers to an instance of a clearly identifiable conceptual or material entity. The entity must be notable, in the sense that it can be described using serious and publicly available references. If there is no item about you yet, you are probably not notable." A link to a wikipedia page is not necessary, in fact there are more than 3.7 million items without links (see User:Pasleim/Sitelink statistics). Lymantria (talk) 16:11, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

pings

Your ping here didn't work. AIUI the system only sends pings when usernames are linked (including by template) in the same edit that a new signature is added to the page - editing or replacing an existing one doesn't work. This means when you make a mistake (forget to ping, mistype a username, etc) you need to add another signature in the same edit you make the correction (see e.g. [3]). Thryduulf (talk) 00:06, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Thank you. I didn't know that. Lymantria (talk) 04:51, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Lighthouse range

Hi Lymantria,

Would you create this one?
--- Jura 11:11, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

I would (although there are older requests), but the support votes all are accompanied by a broadening wish (not restricted to lighthouses) and a broadening of the allowed units (now stated as "usually" nautical miles). You as a proposer have not addressed to that, instead simply declared it "ready". IMHO it is not yet ready. Lymantria (talk) 11:50, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for your feedback, even if I don't think it needs addressing. If ranges are usually given in nautical miles, that doesn't mean they couldn't be given in another unit. Maybe lighthouses in Berlin have ranges in km ;)
--- Jura 11:57, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

Still there is the issue of other light signals. Lymantria (talk) 11:58, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

(fixed typos in previous post) I know, but the main reason I made the proposal is that I don't think the existing "vehicle range" property is useful. Susannaanas did comment on the broadening aspect. I'm not sure what would be good measures/properties that that could work with other "ranges". In case we find some, supposedly they could become parent properties. They might need qualifiers for "determination method" if one would actually want to compare them.
--- Jura 12:08, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

Personally I think objects as harbour entrance light (Q3050136), light beacon (Q2007498) and lightvessel (Q831515) (I made those subclasses of beacon (Q7321258)) and perhaps even approach lighting system (Q475111) should be included in its scope of use - and I can imagine more visual signals to have some range. For today, I run out of time (at least for a couple of hours). Later. Lymantria (talk) 12:14, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

Please check source

Hello,

Your last edit in Yehiel Bar (Q3593226) claims he is a member of Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe (Q939743), but he isn't registered as a member in the group's website. Could you check again? Thanks, DGtal (talk) 08:30, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

Added begin and end dates. Lymantria (talk) 09:05, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

Great job. DGtal (talk) 13:43, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

Icelandic names

Hi Lymantria,

Would you look into this? It seems to be ready for creation.
--- Jura 11:05, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

You have marked it ready, but apart from you as a proposer the proposal did not gain any support yet. I will therefore not create it now. As you marked it ready, it seems unlikely to me that people will add support to it. I think you best remove the ready mark and wait for support or more questions. Lymantria (talk) 11:41, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for having looked into it. I can understand that you may not want to create it. It seems to draw questions mainly from people not interested in the property .. well, let's see where it goes. --- Jura 11:44, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

In the meantime, it got some support from a regular contributor and commentator on PP. If you prefer, I can create "Jóhannesson" beforehand.
--- Jura 15:46, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

@Jura1: Why not Jóhannesdóttir? Or should they be created both? Should there be qualifiers indicating the language? Lymantria (talk) 15:50, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

"Jóhannesdóttir" would be needed as well. Not sure about the qualifier. The language can be a statement on the value-item.
--- Jura 15:54, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

I know of a lot of Dutch names that originally were patronyms, but now are just family names. Like, let's say, Jansen (Q2733656). Now one might say that Jan has patronym Jansen, but that is also a bit weird. How would you deal with that? Lymantria (talk) 15:58, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Somehow I prefer my earlier proposal, I didn't have all those issues ;) I agree with the approach used by Pawel at Q19816823 using a qualifier for most statements. To avoid upcoming issues, maybe we should make it mandatory or at least highly recommended.
--- Jura 16:11, 17 July 2016 (UTC)