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This page is for the proposal of new properties.

Before proposing a property

  1. Search if the property already exists.
  2. Search if the property has already been proposed.
  3. Check if you can give a similar label and definition as an existing Wikipedia infobox parameter, or if it can be matched to an infobox, to or from which data can be transferred automatically.
  4. Select the right datatype for the property.
  5. Read Wikidata:Creating a property proposal for guidelines you should follow when proposing new property.
  6. Start writing the documentation based on the preload form below by editing the two templates at the top of the page to add proposal details.

Creating the property

  1. Once consensus is reached, change status=ready on the template, to attract the attention of a property creator.
  2. Creation can be done 1 week after the creation of the proposal, by a property creator or an administrator.
  3. See property creation policy.

General

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L'Humanité topic ID

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   Under discussion
Descriptionidentifier for a topic on the L'Humanité website
RepresentsL'Humanité (Q1137404)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainitem
Example 1French Communist Party (Q192821)→pcf
Example 2Dominique de Villepin (Q131660)→dominique-de-villepin
Example 32024 United States presidential election (Q101110072)→presidentielle-americaine-2024
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttps://www.humanite.fr/mot-cle/$1
See alsoL'Humanité journalist ID (P10569)
Wikidata projectWikiProject France (Q10816832)

Motivation

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Beauciup de "tag" réunissant tous les articles.  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Legonin (talk • contribs) at 06:00, September 17, 2024‎ (UTC).

Discussion

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  Notified participants of WikiProject France  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Legonin (talk • contribs) at 08:09, 21 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  Notified participants of WikiProject France - re-pinging, since the previous one was unsigned (and therefore didn't work). --Lewis Hulbert (talk) 09:53, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

‎beer style

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   Under discussion
Descriptionclassification of a beer based on its style
Representsbeer style (Q1998962)
Data typeItem
Domainbeer (Q44)
Allowed valuessubclasses or instances of beer style (Q1998962)
Example 1Hertog Jan Grand Prestige (Q2176488) → barley wine (Q808329)
Example 2Coors Light (Q5168060) → light beer (Q1814622)
Example 3Grolsch 0.0% (Q61043304) → low-alcohol beer (Q524679)
Example 4Brand IPA (Q19884261) → India Pale Ale (Q1543214)
See alsobeer bitterness (P6088), beer color (P6089)

Motivation

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Beer style is a key classification for differentiating beers by their characteristics, complementing existing properties like beer color and bitterness.  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mitsjol (talk • contribs) at 10:43, September 30, 2024‎ (UTC).

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identifiant Les Inrockuptibles d'un sujet

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   Under discussion
Descriptionidentifiant d'un sujet sur le site Les Inrockuptibles (fr) – (Please translate this into English.)
RepresentsLes Inrockuptibles (Q2758142)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainitem
Example 1Donald Trump (Q22686)→donald-trump
Example 2Netflix (Q907311)→netflix
Example 32024 Cannes Film Festival (Q119141934)→cannes-2024
Example 4Yelle (Q18574071)→yelle
Example 5Anatomy of a Fall (Q117037697)→anatomie-dune-chute
Example 6Emily in Paris (Q64584978)→emily-in-paris
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttp://www.lesinrocks.com/tag/$1
Wikidata projectWikiProject France (Q10816832)

Motivation

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Plein d'IDs et articles très intéressant. Pas mal de sujet/tags de journaux proposé et déjà sur Wikidata.  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Legonin (talk • contribs) at 07:15, 16 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Discussion

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  Notified participants of WikiProject France  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Legonin (talk • contribs) at 07:15, 16 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

‎European Legislation Identifier (EU)

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   Under discussion
DescriptionEU legislation identifier for documents published by the EU
Data typeExternal identifier
Example 1directive on open data and the re-use of public sector information (Q98399993)→dir/2019/1024/oj
Example 2Capital Requirements Directive (Q1034661)→dir/2013/36/oj
Example 3Solvency II Directive (Q1255619)→dir/2009/138/oj
Source
Formatter URLhttp://data.europa.eu/eli/$1
Robot and gadget jobsImport from Eur-lex by So9qBot is planned for existing items.
Single-value constraintyes
Distinct-values constraintyes

Motivation

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This is an important identifier for EU legislation.--So9q (talk) 10:43, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

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  Notified participants of WikiProject European Union, @Ainali, Belteshassar: Redoing the ping because it requires a signature after it. Samoasambia ✎ 14:33, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Weak oppose I'm not really sure why would we need this property because we already have CELEX number (P476) (it's the "32013L0036" ChristianKl mentioned) and full work available at URL (P953) where we could add the ELI URL. P953 is useful because it is used e.g. by Template:Cite Q (Q22321052). Samoasambia ✎ 14:33, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
European Legislation Identifier is basically a common URL and metadata format for laws in EU member states and the EU itself. Here's a few examples: http://data.finlex.fi/eli/sd/1734/4, http://data.europa.eu/eli/dir/2013/36/oj, https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/eli/loi/2023/4/14/2023-270/jo/texte, https://www.retsinformation.dk/eli/lta/2014/1603. Some of the URLs are actual pages and some of them just redirects. Unfortunately there does not seem to be any central domain from which you could be redirected to the right national database, so ELI properties would have to be done separately for each country (and the EU itself). Samoasambia ✎ 15:09, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

French environmental protection classification

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DescriptionIndustrial or agricultural operations generating risks to health and the environment are regulated in France. The various risks are organized into headings in the nomenclature of installations classified for environmental protection. The dangers, pollution and nuisances of each operation are listed by public authorities.
Data typeItem
DomainQ3151661
Allowed valuesQ125631811
Example 1Raffinerie de Feyzin (Q3417389) → Q125635166
Example 2Chemical factory, Balan (Q16511667) → Q125639692
Example 3ArcelorMittal Dunkerque (Q21164927) → Q125636796
Example 4Q130526075 → Q125635500
Example 5Q123267504 → Q125635414

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Cette propriété est importante pour recenser les dangers pour la santé et l'environnement associés aux activités économiques. Une propriété dédiée permettra d'ajouter les qualificatifs pertinents (dates, références, etc.) pour chaque risque. Arpyia (talk) 08:53, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Notified participants of WikiProject France

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  Notified participants of WikiProject France. Ping needs a signature to work. Samoasambia ✎ 14:07, 22 October 2024 (UTC)*[reply]

‎operating cost

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Descriptionongoing recurring cost for operating or using an object
Representsoperating cost (Q831940)
Data typeQuantity
Domainactivity (Q1914636), architectural structure (Q811979), facility (Q13226383), artificial object (Q16686448)
Allowed values0-10000000000000
Allowed unitscurrency (Q8142) per unit of time (USD/year, EUR/month, etc)
Example 1F-35A Lightning II (Q17519093)→USD$6.6m/year
Example 2swimming pool (Q1501)→USD$1450/year
Example 3Tesla Model 3 (Q7705507)→USD$623/year
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
See alsocapital cost (P2130)

Motivation

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capital cost (P2130) already captures the initial capital cost of an object (building, vehicle, etc) but there is no equivalent property for capturing the recurring ongoing costs of maintaining and operating an object.

Qualifiers such as determination method or standard (P459) and valid in period (P1264) would be very important to use with this property as there are many ways to calculate an operating cost for equipment or a building. In the Tesla Model 3 example provided (USD$623/year) this was only an estimate valid at a point in time, for the first five years of ownership of a car, and excluding a number of other operating costs such as electricity and insurance.

--Dhx1 (talk) 03:22, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

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  •   Weak support A week support from me, because I think it needs a qualifier of sort. I think the cost of annual ownership can benefit from qualifier of a country, region, city, where it's owned. For example, cost of ownership of Tesla car in Norway and US differ tremendously. Also, I think it would benefit from more time periods like 5 year and so on, but I'm not certain about it. --David Osipov (talk) 12:11, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Comment The time span should be specified using duration (P2047) qualifier; otherwise you need to create items for every combination of currencies with day/week/month/year, which would be a nightmare for editors and data consumers. Dexxor (talk) 17:57, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

‎effective life of asset

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Descriptionduration of time which an object/asset is expected to be used before needing to be disposed of or replaced
Data typeQuantity
Domainartificial object (Q16686448)
Allowed unitsunit of time (Q1790144) or any other useful unit of measurement for lifespan of an object (kilometres traveled, engine hours, flight hours, etc)
Example 1CT scanner (Q128486784)→10 years
Example 2combine harvester (Q26886)→12 years
Example 3laptop (Q3962)→2 years
SourceExample: https://www.ato.gov.au/law/view/document?DocID=ITD/EF20151C8/00001&PiT=99991231235958
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
See alsodiscontinued date (P2669), service retirement (P730), life expectancy (P2250)

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There is no property existing for the expected useful lifespan of an artificial object (such as a machine, tool, vehicle or building) after which it is expected the object needs replacing due to wear and tear, obsolescence, lack of support and lack of maintainability.

This concept is useful in finance for determining the current value of a purchased asset for taxation and financial reporting reasons. It is also useful for consumer items such as toothbrushes, phones, computers which are replaced regularly for reasons of wear and tear and obsolescence of technology.

--Dhx1 (talk) 03:23, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  •   Oppose This varies per product and also the lifespan of a laptop obviously is not just 2 years. --Prototyperspective (talk) 09:46, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    My thought with this property proposal is that qualifiers such as determination method or standard (P459) and the references are critical. This property could be used 10 times on laptop (Q3962) all with different sources such as standards for asset management and taxation depreciation schedules of different governments. Thus the users of this property have to pick and choose whichever of these 10 statements is most useful to them. For example, the life of a laptop (Q3962) could be 5 years after first product release until it is typically expected to be obsolete and would be scrapped, could by 3 years as determined by continuous use causing battery degradation and wear and tear typically requiring replacement, could differ in expectations between a government in country X versus country Y depending on affluence of the country and wiliness to adopt newer technologies and scrap older ones seen as obsolete, etc. Dhx1 (talk) 12:42, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't know of anybody who would replace a laptop after just 5 years. Moreover, the planned obsolescence of laptops, smartphones, several plastic products, and so on are a major problem and WD should not normalize or reinforce that by suggesting this is how long these products inherently last. They can last much longer, for example via standardized replacement parts + requirement to be somewhat modular and having parts (such as battery) offered individually. Prototyperspective (talk) 12:13, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Weak support It's connected to depreciation of an item, which is a correct accounting notion. But weak support from me, because it needs to have qualifiers like Determination method, Usage frequency of some sort. I would suggest looking up various calculation methods of the effective life of a depreciating asset, writing them out and starting to propose these qualifiers along with this property. Without these qualifiers, the property alone is deceiving. --David Osipov (talk) 12:18, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Weak support I agree that it needs to be way more precise. It represents depreciation (Q114403).
    For me the property name that would better fit the source indicated would be "legally-based usual depreciation period". The definition would be "usual depreciation period of an asset legally fixed by a fiscal administration and used for accounting purposes"
    Qualifer could be end time (P582), start time (P580) and valid in place (P3005).
    The value could be a range, for example 5-10 years, I don't know how this would translate in terms of allowed units.
    The property should not imply this is the desirable lifetime of an object (question related to sustainability issues such as eco-design and other calculations methods such as life cycle analysis), nor imply this is the actual lifetime of an object (question related to the analysis of real life practices). Jeanne Noiraud (talk) 20:37, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Oppose something like "depreciation period" would be a better way to store information on the legal depreciation period than a more generally named property. ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 09:01, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

‎Toki Pona headnoun

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DescriptionToki Pona common noun for which the name serves as a proper modifier
Data typeLexeme
Allowed valueslanguage=tok
Example 1Sonja Lang (Q12854)Toki Pona headnounjan (L220656)
Example 2Tamzin Hadasa Kelly (Q127401579)Toki Pona headnounwan (L220805)
Example 3United States of America (Q30)Toki Pona headnounma (L220703)

Motivation

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First of all, no, I don't know why there's an item about me, but I might as well use it as an example! So, in Toki Pona, names only ever serve as adjectives. So even though my name is Tansin, one can't refer to me as just that. Instead, a name must modify a common noun, which essentially serves as Toki Pona's own "instance of" statement. So it's not Mewika, but rather ma Mewika 'country called Mewika'. The ma there, is not however semantically part of the name of the country, and contextually could be replaced with some other word (for instance, a critic of the U.S. could say ike Mewika, 'bad thing called Mewika').

This common noun is called a headnoun. Some people refer to themselves with a headnoun other than jan 'person', which thereby functions as something between a courtesy title and preferred pronoun. For instance, I usually use wan 'union' to refer to myself, and that's the name I'm credited under in the acknowledgments to Toki Pona Dictionary (Q108617357). My item thus gives a name (P2561) of wan Tansin, but that's akin to saying my name in English is "person named Tamzin". One solution would be to simply remove wan, but that word is required information to understand how to refer to me in Toki Pona.

My understanding is that language-specific properties have been approved in the past, e.g. Vietnamese middle name (P8500) and second family name in Spanish name (P1950). -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (they|xe) 23:18, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  •   Comment Hmm, this seems like it should be attached to the "class", not the instances. Especially if several different ones could be used (as in your "ma"/"ike" example). ArthurPSmith (talk) 21:18, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    That would work for something like a country, but wouldn't work for entities that state a preferred headnoun. Both Sonja Lang and I are instance of (P31)human (Q5), and there's no other statements in our respective items from which one could infer that I primarily use the headnoun wan (L220805) while she uses the more standard (but by no means universal) jan (L220656). This is true of organizations too. I co-own an LLC that uses the word kulupu (L220679) 'community', but another might use esun (L220644) 'business' or something else entirely. And for creative works: Common headnouns for typefaces include sitelen (L220771) 'writing', nasin (L220725) 'way', and linja (L220690) 'lines'. Again, all not inferable from any other statement. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (they|xe) 20:23, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Vietnamese middle name (P8500) and second family name in Spanish name (P1950) exist because there's semantic content that's expressed. second family name in Spanish name (P1950) is about expressing that a name is inherited from the mother. Can you explain why you think name (P2561) doesn't work here and what you think the property would add? ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 08:41, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @ChristianKl: Including the headnoun in the name would be incorrect because a headnoun is not part of someone's name. A headnoun just establishes some common noun that applies to the entity, before stating what that name is. If it were standard in English to always call you "the Wikidatan Christian"—and indeed, this is roughly how some newspapers write—that wouldn't make "the Wikidatan" part of your name. So, that leaves two options: omit headnouns entirely from Wikidata, or create a property. If we did the former, it would not be possible to use Wikidata to figure out how to refer to or address someone in Toki Pona. You could guess with decent reliability based on P31 and some map of values to lexemes, but for the reasons explained above to ArthurPSmith, that will carry a significant error rate. In short: a headnoun is a required aspect of how people are addressed and referred to in Toki Pona, but is not semantically part of the name and cannot be fully predicted from other data. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (they|xe) 20:32, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

‎Provides data for property

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Descriptionthe dataset associated with this external id usually contains data applicable to this other wikidata property
Data typeProperty
Domainexternal id properties
Example 1Deku Deals ID (P8364)→price (P2284)
Example 2MyWaifuList character ID (P13031)→height (P2048)
Example 3IMDb ID (P345)→title (P1476)
Example 4Fandom article ID (P6262)→unknown
See alsostated in (P248)

Motivation

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I was asked by @Kirilloparma: to save certain references not with reference URL (P854) but instead (for instance) ‎Playdate Catalog ID (P12125) in Wikidata:Tools/Wikidata for Web.

My concerns regarding this was that, I cannot automatically distinguish between data provided by the database item behind ‎Playdate Catalog ID (P12125) and information that just happens to be found under the same url.

Let's say the footer of a page might contain an email address, that is not related to the person reviewed in the page.

Or isbnsearch.org would tell me the title of a book but I wouldn't use ISBN-13 (P212) as the reference.

Now if I had an indication that a url that resolves to (for instance) an IMDb ID (P345) usually holds the information that applies to title (P1476), then I could make the assumption that it would make for a fitting reference statement when extracting this property from the url.

This information could be useful for other tools like:

  • A tool that tells you that an item should have a title and that you could find it on the IMDB
  • A tool that highlights a reference that might be faulty because it occours in an unusual context. Let's say Deku Deals ID (P8364) is used on a date of birth (P569) statement.

If an ID points to a wiki, that could hold all kinds of statements, it should be set to unknown.

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@Addshore: –Shisma (talk) 10:00, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Support I quite like the idea, and it falls in line with what I am trying to do with more visual cues on items for the viability of references / sources and notability ·addshore· talk to me! 10:23, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Question Same as supported metadata (P8203)? Midleading (talk) 15:06, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what this is meant for but the datatype is different. So it's definitely not the same. – Shisma (talk) 15:14, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
supported metadata (P8203) can be used to tell what kind of data a database stores, and not being limited to data that Wikidata has a property for. The example PubMed ID (Q2082879)supported metadata (P8203)digital object identifier (Q25670) is no different from the examples given here except that it accepts items which can be created by anyone. Midleading (talk) 04:03, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Support -wd-Ryan (Talk/Edits) 16:56, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Support Knowing the data a property may hold would be helpful for sourcing statements on items. --Lewis Hulbert (talk) 01:03, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Support Useful. --Prototyperspective (talk) 12:14, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  •   Wait this property mixes three things together (1) Some entries in the database have data on this property. (2) All entries in the database have data on this property. (3) All entries have reliable data that's worthy of being imported on this property.
If we aren't clear about the meaning, different people are likely going to use it differently leading to bad conclusions. ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 19:09, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I read the proposal and all comments again and I'm left with the impression the only assumed meaning of this property is (1). (2) can be expressed with a qualifier nature of statement (P5102) → sometimes (Q110143752). (3) if there is a property for it, I'd assume that the is a consensus that it is worthy of importing 🤷
I have an instance were data is there, but it it's format is always faulty. I would just   deprecate the statement in such cases. We could do the same for when the source is known to be factually faulty reason for deprecated rank (P2241) → source known to be unreliable (Q22979588) –Shisma (talk) 08:34, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"A tool that tells you that an item should have a title and that you could find it on the IMDB" is only true for (3). ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 09:38, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A tool that tells you that an item should have a title and that you could find it on the IMDB does not mean you shouldn't review it first. Did I imply we should do automatic imports based on this property alone? – Shisma (talk) 11:48, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Shisma the general meaning of "should" is "there may exist valid reasons in particular circumstances to ignore a particular item, but the full implications must be understood and carefully weighed before choosing a different course".
It's not clear whether MyWaifuList character ID (P13031)Provides data for propertyblood type (P1853) is how the property is supposed to be used. A tool complaining that everything with MyWaifuList character ID (P13031) should have blood type (P1853) would be wrong.
While you didn't explicitely suggested automatic imports, the wording that you did use encourages people to read it as a justification of automatic imports. If you propose a property you not just have to think about how you want to use the property about also about how other people might misuse it and think about how to design the property to prevent misuse. ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 09:31, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If the data provided is faulty, wrongly formatted, or unreliable we can surely express it with ranks and qualifiers. Don’t you think? — Shisma (talk) 08:49, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Previous proposals: Wikidata:Property proposal/provides data and more refined ones: Wikidata:Property proposal/provides HTML microdata, Wikidata:Property proposal/provides JSON-LD data.--GZWDer (talk) 11:21, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Resistance in Belgium ID

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Descriptionidentifier of persons, administrative areas, resistance organizations of world war 2,... on https://data.arch.be/
RepresentsResistance in Belgium (Q130564724)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainhuman (Q5), organization (Q43229), country (Q6256)
Example 1Groupe G (Q1767773)→Q3790
Example 2Walthère Dewé (Q631073)→Q7400
Example 3Ixelles - Elsene (Q208713)→Q104
Example 4Belgium (Q31)→Q5
Sourcehttps://data.arch.be/, https://query.data.arch.be/,
Planned useAdd the identifier to already created Wikidata Qid's.
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttps://data.arch.be/wiki/Item:$1
CountryBelgium (Q31)
Applicable "stated in"-valueResistance in Belgium (Q130564724)
Single-value constraintyes
Wikidata projectWikiProject World War II (Q10653810)

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Resistance in Belgium is a platform that makes it possible to do research on the resistance in Belgium during the Second World War.
  Comment: This database contains mostly persons, but most of them are only known in this database (Wikidata:Notability). That's why I said in the 'planned use' section that I will only use the ID for already created Wikidata QIDs.  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by RVA2869 (talk • contribs) at 10:51, 28 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

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StanProg PyeBeth (talk) 17:13, 30 September 2020 (UTC)P.E.Bethke Vicarage BibliotheksTobi Pmt (talk) 12:08, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Notified participants of WikiProject Military History &

  Notified participants of WikiProject Victims of National Socialism. Samoasambia ✎ 17:05, 2 November 2024 (UTC)Lihavointi[reply]

  Support the website seems well organised and official, I see it uses wikibase software. Vicarage (talk) 17:18, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Support Nortix08 (talk) 19:00, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Comment Interesting to see wikbase deployed there! Is this property proposal part of Wikidata:WikiProject WWII? Here's a list of Dutch resistance members Wikidata:Netwerk Oorlogsbronnen/Nederlandse verzetsstrijders. I assume there is overlap between Belgian and Dutch resistance members. Looking at the example items I noticed that the wikibase deployment seems to be simply a way to have a unique starting point for external links in en/nl/fr langauges. It seems to me it would be more beneficial to link those language links directly to the Wikidata items with specific properties per language, especially because it would be nice to provide such links as references to the WWII parts of people's lives. Obviously that 5 year period had a huge impact, but many people were notable for other reasons. I think the various resistance groups need items so I would start there, and not with the individuals, but a more generic property would enable that. As a wikidatan I feel comfortable navigating another wikibase item, but I doubt that's the case for many Wikipedians who could use those links for articles in their language of choice. Jane023 (talk) 09:15, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Support --Kdkeller (talk) 16:21, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Support Karmakolle (talk) 16:38, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

‎ISCC

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   Done: ISCC (P13150) (Talk and documentation)
DescriptionInternational Standard Content Code. Hash code that identifies a media object based on fuzzy hashing.
RepresentsInternational Standard Content Code (Q129857134)
Data typeString
Allowed valuesISCC:[A-Z2-7]{10,73}
Example 1
 
Zaadpeulen van goudenregen (Laburnum anagyroides), 31-08-2024. (d.j.b)
→ ISCC:KECV7KS6BOJ35WEUX7SMMG3BY4LGBACQ2PJPVVGGHVEZ4DZISC7CXLI
Example 2
Rooster crowing small
→ ISCC:KMCU72IF2EHZH5PKFS2UODT2EGOTGY5CIBRMRYSQR6HGLFBHAAUANVY
Example 3
 
Aristotle latin manuscript
→ ISCC:KECV7NLW5ME7CEN2XZHDHAODEGDT66ZOQVNDPKM4AKWU6L32BHKVXMQ

Motivation

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As of May 2024, the International Standard Content Code (Q129857134) has been an ISO standard (ISO 24138:2024) to identify digital assets in a robust way by applying fuzzy hashing technology to objects. Awinkler3 (talk) 14:50, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Jheald (talk) 06:27, 17 August 2014 (UTC) Micru (talk) 07:20, 17 August 2014 (UTC) Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:41, 17 August 2014 (UTC) Sannita - not just another it.wiki sysop 12:50, 18 August 2014 (UTC) Susannaanas (talk) 08:05, 19 August 2014 (UTC) Mushroom (talk) 12:02, 21 August 2014 (UTC) I do think Commons is the better place to talk about this. Multichill (talk) 18:50, 21 August 2014 (UTC) Jarekt (talk) 04:38, 3 September 2017 (UTC)  徵國單  (討論 🀄) (方孔錢 💴) 11:23, 14 November 2017 (UTC) Mike Peel (talk) 22:50, 12 May 2018 (UTC) Yann (talk) 23:27, 7 July 2018 (UTC) John Samuel (talk) 10:10, 22 September 2018 (UTC) 99of9 (talk) 06:27, 12 July 2019 (UTC) Christian Ferrer (talk) 18:05, 19 July 2019 (UTC) Jura GPSLeo (talk) 13:30, 29 July 2019 (UTC) Tris T7 TT me[reply]
Juandev (talk) 17:35, 7 September 2019 (UTC) Jean-Fred (talk) 15:21, 26 September 2019 (UTC) Premeditated Vahurzpu Dr Isaac Andy (talk) 05:21, 29 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  Notified participants of WikiProject Commons

@Awinkler3, Dexxor, Zache, Multichill, ArthurPSmith, Don-vip:   Done: ISCC (P13150). --Lewis Hulbert (talk) 12:01, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

‎Data analysis method

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Descriptionmethods used in the main item for inspecting, cleansing, transforming, and modeling data with the goal of discovering useful information
Representsdata analysis (Q1988917)
Data typeItem
Domainscholarly article (Q13442814)

scientific publication (Q591041)

scholarly work (Q55915575)
Example 1Prediction of drug absorption using multivariate statistics (Q73126791)→multivariate statistics (Q1952580)
Example 2Governing the Commons: The Evolution of Institutions for Collective Action (Q27044649)→case study (Q155207)
Example 3randomized controlled trial (Q1436668)→survival analysis (Q543310)

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I did not find the right property to describe the method used in an academic work. This could be useful in the long run to make queries about scientific items and evaluate their quality for example.

(Maybe "uses data analysis method" is a better phrasing for the property name).

Jeanne Noiraud (talk) 21:25, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edit : I have listed existing properties on methods and my other property proposals here Wikidata:WikiProject_Wikidata_for_research/Data_models/Social_science_results#Properties_for_methods

Jeanne Noiraud (talk) 22:48, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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‎Use data collection instrument

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DescriptionTool used by/in the subject to facilitate the collection of qualitative or quantitative data
RepresentsData collection instrument (Q130941907)
Data typeItem
Example 1seismography (Q3307141)→seismometer (Q160567)
Example 2survey (Q3490295)→questionnaire (Q747810)
Example 3research interview (Q12318532)→Interview guide (Q130943292)
Example 4finding of heart rate (Q44484223)→stethoscope (Q162339)
Example 5Scientific paper in social science→questionnaire (Q747810)
Example 6Scientific paper on biodiversity tracking→camera trap (Q1723004)
Sourcehttps://vocabularies.cessda.eu/urn/urn:ddi:int.ddi.cv:TypeOfInstrument:1.1.2

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I am trying to create relevant properties for scientific research items metadata and I find there are many properties missing. This property is inspired by existing controlled social science vocabulary, but can be used for many science related items.

The closest property for now is probably uses (P2283), but it seems too generic. I have listed existing properties on methods and my other property proposals here Wikidata:WikiProject_Wikidata_for_research/Data_models/Social_science_results#Properties_for_methods

Jeanne Noiraud (talk) 22:41, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Measuring point uuid

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DescriptionMeasuring point uuid or Measurement points uuid, german Messstellenuuid, is the unique identifier for measuring points at which collects data.
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainitem
Allowed valuesUniversally Unique Identifier (Q195284)
Example 1Stream gauge Berlin-Mühlendamm UP (Q110797934) → 09e15cf6-f155-4b76-b92f-6c260839121c
Example 2Stream gauge Berlin-Ploetzensee OP (Q110805383) → ee52ce62-212c-4735-b438-26fbdc37e3e2
Example 3Pegel Mannheim (Q60773342) → 57090802-c51a-4d09-8340-b4453cd0e1f5
Sourcehttps://www.pegelonline.wsv.de/gast/pegeltabelle https://www.pegelonline.wsv.de/gast/stammdaten?pegelnr=23700700
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Planned useI like to add all wate level measurement point in Germany. They are used at rivers, chanles, at North and Barentsea.
Number of IDs in sourceIn Germany there are more than 650 measurement points. https://www.pegelonline.wsv.de/gast/pegeltabelle
Expected completenesseventually complete (Q21873974)
Single-value constraintyes
Distinct-values constraintyes

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In Germany, for example, the measuring point uuid is used as a unique identifier for water level measuring points (Stream gauge). At these points, the current level of the water of rivers, channels, lakes or the sea will be collected. These Measuring points have a coordinate. This will belong to the Project Germany, WikiProject Rivers and WikiProject Geology. These Measurement points indicates the difference between standard sea level and actual water level. As alternativ a general uuid value can be implemented. There are already uuid properties, but they are to specific, either people World Rowing UUID or books BHCL UUID. If a universal uuid is implemented, it would be fine for my project. I like to add all wate level measurement point in Germany. They are used at rivers, Canals, at North- and Baltic Sea. In Germany there are more than 650 measurement points. See also extern: [1] GodeNehler (talk) 16:13, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Take a look at how property descriptions are usually written, and write one for this property in the same form. Currently, it's not clear to me whether this is supposed to be a property about a certain German identifer (so a standard external ID property) or supposed to be something more general.
Is there some regulation that codifies these measuring points? ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 21:38, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Marktstammdatenregisternummer

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DescriptionIm Marktstammdatenregister werden pro Eintrag verschiedene Nummern vergeben. Sie sollen zusammengefasst als Eigenschaft Marktstammdatenregisternummer angegeben werden können. Für die verschiedenen Nummerntypen - genauer gesagt Präfixe, die verschiedene Bezüge haben (SEE[...] identifiziert eine Einheit, SGE[...] eine Genehmigung, ABR[...] einen Anlagenbetreiber usw.) - wären einzelne Qualifier denkbar. (de) – (Please translate this into English.)
Representsno label (Q130696971)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainitem
Example 1Q130706160→SEE957863394442
Example 2Q130706160→SGE998787568830
Example 3Q130706156→SEE926057008953
Example 4Q130706156→SGE998787568830
Example 5Q130701667→ABR951932196005
Sourcehttps://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marktstammdatenregister; https://www.marktstammdatenregister.de/MaStR/Einheit/Einheiten/OeffentlicheEinheitenuebersicht
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Wikidata projectWikiProject Germany (Q6871603)

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Die Aufnahme dieser ID hat auch für die Datenpflege hier einen expliziten Nutzen, z. B. in der Vermeidung von Dubletten oder der eindeutigen Zuweisung, falls kein Label verwendet wird/kein sinnvolles Label verwendet werden kann.  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by P170 (talk • contribs).

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  •   Comment Enorme Fülle an Detailinformationen zum deutschen Energiesystem, daher definitiv ein nützlicher Vorschlag. Ich würde aber nicht für jeden Prefix der Nummer eine eigene Eigenschaft erstellen, sondern alle Typen von Einheiten, Betreibern usw. unter einer zusammenfassen. (Daher würde ich auch die beiden Wikidata Einträge zusammenlegen, weil es eigentlich der selbe Identifikator ist.) Weißt du darüber hinaus, ob das Online-Portal eine Möglichkeit bietet anhand der MaStR-Nummer auf den jeweiligen öffentlichen Registereintrag zu verlinken? (sowas wie marktstammdatenregister.de/{MaStR-Nummer} leitet dann auf die entsprechende Seite im Register weiter) Aus formellen Gründen wären außerdem zwei weitere Beispiele noch gut. Printstream (talk) 00:00, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi!
    • Zwei weitere Beispiele habe ich ergänzt.
    • Mir wäre es (leider) nicht bekannt, dass aus der MaStR-Nummer auf den Eintrag verlinkt werden kann
    • Dein Vorschlag die IDs für Einheiten, Betreiber usw. unter einer Eigenschaft zusammenzufassen klingt sinnvoll. Ich ändere das und gehe davon aus, dass das kein Problem ist und kein neuer Vorschlag nötig ist.
    P170 (talk) 08:50, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Ergänzung: Zusammenfassen bedeutet allerdings, dass eine Einheit bei Wikidata mehrere MaStR-Nummern erhält: Für die Einheit an sich, dann gibt es bspw. noch eine MaStR-Nummer für die EEG-Anlage und teilweise eine MaStR-Nummer für die Genehmigung. Diese beiden letztgenannten Beispiele fallen ja auch unter das eine Wikidata-Objekt. Siehst Du da ein Problem oder hattest Du das schon einkalkuliert? P170 (talk) 08:59, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Mehrere MaStR-Nummern pro Objekt sind kein Problem, können dann per Qualifier einfach spezifiziert werden. Da müsste man sich dann auf eine einheitliche Methode einigen. Vielleicht mit instance of (P31) und dann jeweils eigenen Wikidata-Objekten für die 23 verschiedenen Prefixe/Typen von Einträgen. Wegen der Weiterleitung habe bei der BNetzA mal angefragt. Printstream (talk) 10:46, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Notified participants of WikiProject Germany Printstream (talk) 13:47, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Comment Are the entities described by this ID actually notable? Individual wind turbines for example? That seems a stretch to plan to include them all. ArthurPSmith (talk) 15:10, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I wouldn't focus solely on wind turbines, as the ID also captures a wide range of other entities. The register contains almost all entities that are in some way connected to the German energy infrastructure. This includes larger power plants of all kinds, thousands of companies (e.g., grid operators or all German municipal utilities, for which, to my knowledge, there is no other identifier in Germany), as well as authorities, energy trading platforms, business associations, and more. Printstream (talk) 17:38, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OAI formatter

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Descriptionformatter to generate ID compatible with Open Archives Initiative Protocol for Metadata Harvesting (Q2430433) services
Data typeString
Example 1CulturaItalia ID (P1949) => $1
Example 2arXiv ID (P818) => oai:arXiv.org:$1
Example 3PMC publication ID (P932) => oai:pubmedcentral.nih.gov:$1
Example 4HAL article ID (P7864) => oai:HAL:$1
See alsoURN formatter (P7470), ARK formatter (P8054), DOI formatter (P8404)

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Note there is no single resolver for this ID.--GZWDer (talk) 14:50, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Open Library Collection

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DescriptionLink to Open Library Collection which contain manually and automaticallly collections of editions and works on certain topics
Data typeURL
Example 1Meyers Reisebücher (Q1429532)→https://de.wikisource.org/wiki/Meyers_Reiseb%C3%BCcher
Example 2Star Wars (Q462)→https://openlibrary.org/collections/star-wars
Example 3subject→value
Planned useSie soll dazu dienen Themen in der WD mit Collections in der OL zu verlinken. Das würde ich gerne nutzen.
Formatter URLhttps://openlibrary.org/collections/$1
See alsoOpen Library ID (P648), Open Library subject ID (P3847), Open Library publisher ID (P12088)

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Bessere Verlinkung der DAten in der OpenLibrary.  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ogmios (talk • contribs) at 11:09, 13 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

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Radio Algeria tag ID

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Descriptionidentifier for a tag on Algerian French-language website of the sound broadcasting company Radio Algeria
RepresentsRadio Algeria (Q2004597)
Data typeExternal identifier
Allowed values^[a-zA-Z0-9].*$
Example 1Algeria (Q262) → algerie
Example 2Africa (Q15) → afrique
Example 3Europe (Q46) → europe
Sourcehttps://news.radioalgerie.dz/fr
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttps://radioalgerie.dz/news/fr/tags/$1
See alsoLe Figaro tag ID (P6621), Le Parisien tag ID (P6622), Mediapart tag ID (P6813)
Proposed bySoufiyouns

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  Notified participants of WikiProject Authority control: I propose to create a new property for the tags on the website of the Algerian sound broadcasting company Radio Algeria (Q2004597). --Soufiyouns (talk) 10:41, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  Support --Kolja21 (talk) 11:09, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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