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I created a little add on for the table generator which sends an email to a user if they are marked as inactive. If there are no objections, I would like to install it. That should solve the notification issue of inactive admin/crat/oversighter.Cyberpower678 (talk) 12:57, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
- I'm not sure whether we want such a notification and whether it makes any sense as inactive contributors are inactive and do not fulfil any role in the community for the time they are so. Furthermore, notifications could theoretically also support gaming (making the required 10 actions just for keeping the status, and not for helping the community), but I am confident we can trust our current advanced right holders not to do so and this won't get an issue here. Regards, Vogone talk 15:44, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
- Someone fucked up the API, so ActiveStats isn't working right, at the moment.Cyberpower678 (talk) 02:31, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
- Resolved the API, but the DB is also missing the user table. Kind of vital for the bot to help it identify the user. :/Cyberpower678 (talk) 02:39, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
Is this the same issue that has broken Wikidata:Administrators/Timeline? Del♉sion23 (talk) 21:31, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
- What is broken on Wikidata:Administrators/Timeline? The Anonymouse (talk) 05:11, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
- It was broken but apparently isn't anymore. Vogone talk 14:28, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
- Yeah, it's fine now. When I posted previously, the timeline was completely broken. Del♉sion23 (talk) 18:38, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
- It was broken but apparently isn't anymore. Vogone talk 14:28, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
Merging incident
Both pages were deleted after merging, please restore either Q1683580 or Q7837635 --Robot Monk (talk) 18:30, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
Done. --Stryn (talk) 18:35, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
Benebot editing logged out?
Is Benebot editing logged out? [1] Del♉sion23 (talk) 19:34, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
Full STOP for User:Dexbot
Adding garbage again. --Succu (talk) 21:49, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
- CALM DOWN. Have you let the bot owner know that there's a problem? Legoktm (talk) 21:51, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
- There is no issue with the statements added by the bot. John F. Lewis (talk) 21:54, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
- It's adding duplicate statements. Legoktm (talk) 21:54, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
- How did I miss that..? Well, the bot is not adding garbage as the original topic says, just duplicating on occurrences. John F. Lewis (talk) 21:55, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
- @Legoktm: Sollte ich? My personal experience regarding User:Dexbot is not positive. A lot faults. Repeated again and again.-Succu (talk) 22:15, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
- If you don't tell the bot owner there is a problem, how do you expect them to fix it? Legoktm (talk) 22:25, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
- told him/her. --Succu (talk) 22:44, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
- Dear Succu, your way of communicating seems to leave some room for improvement. You start a topic here, some quotes: "Full STOP", "garbage", "STOP!", "unbelbiveble" (I assume you meant unbelievable).
- Please always first start a topic at the talk page of the bot or it's owner
- Please stay factual and friendly, for example: "Dear bot, I'm seeing double, you seem to be adding duplicate entries (for example at Q3777503). Could you please fix this? Thank you, "
- If all else fails, come here. Please be factual.
- Multichill (talk) 23:24, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
- Dear Succu, your way of communicating seems to leave some room for improvement. You start a topic here, some quotes: "Full STOP", "garbage", "STOP!", "unbelbiveble" (I assume you meant unbelievable).
- told him/her. --Succu (talk) 22:44, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
- If you don't tell the bot owner there is a problem, how do you expect them to fix it? Legoktm (talk) 22:25, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
- It's adding duplicate statements. Legoktm (talk) 21:54, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
Dear administrators, will anyone stop that bot?? see modifications to Frederick Bellenger (Q5497365) & Juan Andrés Ramírez (Q258340) made in the same 10 seconds... LaddΩ chat ;) 23:42, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
delete Q13144969 እዮብ መኮንን
That name is available at Q14623945 Eyob Mekonnen. Regards לערי ריינהארט (talk) 14:51, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
Merged. By the way, in the future please add deletion requests to WD:RFD. --Stryn (talk) 15:06, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
Please recreate Main Page and have it redirect to Wikidata:Main Page
Incoming links There are incoming links to [[Main Page]] from all kinds of Wikimedia Foundation projects and as far as I'm aware (although I haven't checked all 800), every other project either has their main page at [[Main Page]] or a redirect to something like [[''Project'':Main Page]] or somesuch. Why do we insist on having users get to a redlink without a completely sensible redirect? For that matter, due to the nature of this project and its naming schemes, there will never be any content named "Main Page" so there is zero chance of some conflict. It only serves to help and in no way to hurt. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:24, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
- Unfortunately due to how the software is, ns0 can not be edited and therefore redirects can not be used at all in the namespace which is why we utilise the Wikidata namespace as both a project and main namespace. So doing so is technically impossible. John F. Lewis (talk) 18:37, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
- Tried to use the importing bug to fix this, but it seems that bug has also been fixed. Ajraddatz (Talk) 18:51, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
- That's what I was going to suggest but... hmm. --Rschen7754 19:52, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
- Moving it into place doesn't work either. --Rschen7754 19:54, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
- That's what I was going to suggest but... hmm. --Rschen7754 19:52, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
- I suppose we could just redirect the page using javascript, but that sounds like a really crummy solution, and should be avoided if at all possible. --Yair rand (talk) 20:02, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
- Tried to use the importing bug to fix this, but it seems that bug has also been fixed. Ajraddatz (Talk) 18:51, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
- Are there really any real incoming links to [[Main Page]]? As Wikidata never had this page, every single of these links has been incorrect from the beginning. This is the difference to the Wikipedias Main Pages, which have been there historically, which is why we now can't get rid of them (but have to keep them at least as redirects), even if they don't fit in our namespace concept. --YMS (talk) 20:15, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
- Done [2] now that wasn't so hard ;-) Legoktm (talk) 22:13, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
- Um, how did you do that? --Jakob (Scream about the things I've broken) 23:12, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
- @@Legoktm: Thanks.
- @@YMS: Yes, it did: see the history of Wikidata:Main Page. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:41, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
- Um, how did you do that? --Jakob (Scream about the things I've broken) 23:12, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
Protecting Wikidata talk:Main Page
Again, there are multiple test edits and/or vandalism. I think it needs indefinite semi-protection. --Michgrig (talk) 18:01, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
- I disagree. It's important for anons and new users to be able to edit the main page's talk page, and it's not so much of a problem if a page as low-visibility as that receives frequent vandalism, I think. --Yair rand (talk) 18:23, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
- I disagree with a protection as well for the reasons stated by Yair rand above. Protecting a page which is frequently monitored and not very visible to our project's visitors anyway would be a kind of overkill. Vogone talk 18:31, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
- It's a strange decision to my point of view but ok, it's up to you. --Michgrig (talk) 19:04, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
- I think it should be semi-protected. It's not like IP's appear to have legitimate comments to make there, and it is vandalized almost daily. Semi-protecting for a short time (like a week) seems like a reasonable compromise, in my opinion. --Jakob (Scream about the things I've broken) 19:47, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
- Not a fan of semi-protection, per Vogone. --Rschen7754 21:26, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
105.236.93.119
Is this IP a logged out bot?--Vyom25 (talk) 16:31, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
- Its edits look pretty human to me, but I'm don't know much about bots. Maybe someone could ask on his/her/its talk page? --Jakob (Scream about the things I've broken) 16:38, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
- I don't think is possible to change 4 qualifier with one edit with normal interface, but the speed is low, so maybe he/she use some external program to edit Wikidata. --ValterVB (talk) 18:21, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
- It is in fact possible. I just tested that out in the Sandbox. See the diff. --Jakob (Scream about the things I've broken) 19:26, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
- I don't think is possible to change 4 qualifier with one edit with normal interface, but the speed is low, so maybe he/she use some external program to edit Wikidata. --ValterVB (talk) 18:21, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
10.4.0.64
A bot is editing logged out on 10.4.0.64. This IP is in a reserved range that is not possible to use for Internet communication, so the edits may be coming from Wikimedia Labs. It might be worth imposing a soft-block on the entire 10.0.0.0/8 range to avoid this sort of thing. This, that and the other (talk) 10:04, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
- It's been decided to leave the bot unblocked; the operator is semi-active, the bot got logged out in the recent security breach, and if we blocked the bot, RFD would quickly explode. --Rschen7754 10:06, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
- It should be noted that admins already have blocked and unblocked this address, meaning further blocks without an established consensus here (per the blocking policy) would begin to step on w:en:WP:WHEEL.--Jasper Deng (talk) 10:08, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
- That's fine, might be worth putting something on the IP talk page just to reassure other users. This, that and the other (talk) 10:13, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
- It should be noted that admins already have blocked and unblocked this address, meaning further blocks without an established consensus here (per the blocking policy) would begin to step on w:en:WP:WHEEL.--Jasper Deng (talk) 10:08, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
- See w:en:User_talk:Anomie/Archives/2013#10.111.0.0.2F16. Legoktm (talk) 16:42, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
Important change regarding user rights
Hi colleagues!
With some delay the long-awaited change to our user group rights configuration was deployed. This means, that all users in either the rollbacker or property creator group are both autopatrolled and confirmed and all users in the autopatrolled group are confirmed now. This is important to know for avoiding redundancies in the future. Thanks for your attention! Vogone talk 19:48, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
Please restore the item and "protect agains deletion" (I know this is impossible but it is badly needed...). Almost month User:Conny don't want to revert its action. Preceding merge of 2 different taxonomic ranks (sections in zoology and botany) was wrong because they are situated at different places in hierarchy. So merge and deletion leads to losing information. And it leads to such wrong edits. Infovarius (talk) 20:15, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
- As far as I can see, both are about different topics therefore should not be merged. I have undeleted the item. John F. Lewis (talk) 22:35, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
I have been blocked from editing?
Please assist When I try to edit database entries, all of the edit buttons are greyed out and a tooltip explains that my username or IP address has been blocked. What? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:43, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
The reason for getting that message is not necessarily being blocked. It's a known bug that page protection could cause this too.--Jasper Deng (talk) 17:06, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
Requesting review of my first block
Could someone check over the validity of This block? Thanks. --Jakob (Scream about the things I've broken) 14:05, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
- Is it forbidden to write about oneself on Wikipedia and link to this article on Wikidata afterwards? As far as I know, it isn't. Vogone talk 14:10, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
- Not a valid reason to block. --Stryn (talk) 14:16, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
- @King jakob c 2: Thanks for fixing your mistake
:-)Vogone talk 16:32, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
- @King jakob c 2: Thanks for fixing your mistake
NowProperty (talk • contribs • logs)
This user is probably a unapproved bot operated by someone because:
- Making lots of edits at high speed without flood or bot flag.
- Only edit Item.
- Cleared an item that can only be done by API.
As Wikidata:Bot says,
In order to receive approval and a bot flag, a request must be made at Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Bot detailing what task the operator wishes for the bot to perform. The bot operator should do a test run of between 50 and 250 edits, so that the community can observe that the bot is working correctly. The request for permission must be started before the test run is started. If testing is successful, and the bot task receives community support, an administrator will close the request and a bureaucrat will give the account a bot flag. If the closer is a bureaucrat, they can also flag the account at the same time.
This user is probably violating this policy and is flooding recent change. Please deal with it. We can make a Checkuser to find its operater. Note that NowItem (talk • contribs • logs) made 99999 similar edits who is inactive now.--GZWDer (talk) 05:13, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
Faulty filter
The filter for adding language as a label appears to be faulty. It has not caught examples such as [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], and [9]. It used to work fine but now it catches very little. Is there any way to fix it? There appears to be a similar problem with the filter for dexcription and alias too. Thanks. Del♉sion23 (talk) 15:11, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
- Looks like the filter is noting only those edits where already exits some row (which seems to be also language → examples: [10] [11] [12] [13]). When in August it noted also edits where row didn't exist yet ([14] [15]). --Stryn (talk) 10:44, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
- Is it possible to fix this problem? The filters were really useful for reverting incorrect additions. Now they rarely catch anything. Is this a filter issue, or has something changed on Wikidata that means the filters can no longer work? Del♉sion23 (talk) 09:40, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
Script on a mission (talk • contribs • logs)
is probably a unapproved bot and sock of NowProperty. Please block it.--GZWDer (talk) 09:55, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
EmausBot
This bot created a lot of items of subtemplate. Please fix it.--GZWDer (talk) 14:59, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
- Why are you posting this here instead of on User talk:Emaus? Multichill (talk) 15:24, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
Import source "testwikidata:"
I'd like to add "testwikidata:" (which just recently got it's own interwiki prefix) to our wiki's import sources because it sometimes could be handy. Please sign below if you want to confirm not to have any objections to this tiny change or would like any further import source to be added for transwiki. Vogone talk 21:11, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
- I see no reason why not to. Could be handy at times. John F. Lewis (talk) 21:16, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
Please semi-protect English Wikipedia (Q328)
Many users use this item to test. please semi-protect it.--GZWDer (talk) 10:59, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
- Protected for three months. --YMS (talk) 11:32, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
- Though "Many users use this item to test" would have been a more precise explaination than "Excessive vandalism", which I used as a reason. I will take more care on the wording next time, as most of the people I called vandals by this have not really been vandals with intent. Sorry to all of them. --YMS (talk) 11:36, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
Making a data without checking other language projects
Making a data with linking just one project is not a problem due to WD:N. However, I've just noticed that a user marked en-3 label in his/her userpage is keep making a data without noticing other language projects.
I suppose that "mediation" and "protection" is not a difficult word to search with, but anyway I just noticed him/her to double check first whether there are interwikis or not. However, he refused to listen my word and say non-respectable words to me at User talk:Hym411#Please check and Wikidata:Project chat/Archive/2013/10#Do not link single project data. I don't think that my warning is not valuable, so I can't bare his humble speech. What should I do? --관인생략 (talk) 08:55, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
- What is the relation with en-3 babel and the situation? There is no relationship with babel and this situation. --by ReviDCMG at 23:48, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
- From what I can gather myself (Google Translate FTW for now), this matter does not really require administrator intervention. Hym411 does not seem to be refusing to listen nor seems to be disrespecting opinions in a way that is intended or could be viewed as hostile. Therefore all I can suggest is continue to discuss the matter or seek a wider comment by the community. No administration intervention needed beyond a recommendation. John F. Lewis (talk) 00:07, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
- Well, in Korean, "~합니다만" can be translated into "huh, however". and "수틀립니다만" can be translated into "when the things are not going properly as you'd intended". I feel insulted about this. Also, he is saying that not checking other interwikis before creating a data is his own style and not listening to others. --관인생략 (talk) 03:02, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
- If Hym411 is refusing to accept constructive critism, that is unfortunately an issue that can only be dealt with by the community as opposed to administrators using their access to enforce. If it escalates, feel free to bring it back here but at the moment is seems to be at most the smallest dispute and is not requiring intervention yet. So at least try to communication with them again. John F. Lewis (talk) 12:44, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for your arbitration. So can I understand that this is a little attention to him/her? --관인생략 (talk) 00:44, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
- If Hym411 is refusing to accept constructive critism, that is unfortunately an issue that can only be dealt with by the community as opposed to administrators using their access to enforce. If it escalates, feel free to bring it back here but at the moment is seems to be at most the smallest dispute and is not requiring intervention yet. So at least try to communication with them again. John F. Lewis (talk) 12:44, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
- Well, in Korean, "~합니다만" can be translated into "huh, however". and "수틀립니다만" can be translated into "when the things are not going properly as you'd intended". I feel insulted about this. Also, he is saying that not checking other interwikis before creating a data is his own style and not listening to others. --관인생략 (talk) 03:02, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi there. Notifying of a vandal at [16]. Pikolas (talk) 03:36, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
- The vandalism has been reverted. I would've issued a warning, but decided to block the user instead because the user has been vandalizing on the English Wikipedia as well.--Jasper Deng (talk) 03:40, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
Please recreated Main Page and have it redirect to Wikidata:Main Page
Again There are incoming links to [[Main Page]] which should redirect to the actual main page. I have no idea why someone deleted it other than the blithe and frankly useless rationale "hacks are bad". Which they aren't. Especially when they fix a problem. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:12, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
- Please stop spamming this around the wiki and fix the incoming links instead. We administrators have no accepted possibilty to create those redirects. Vogone talk 17:14, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
- In other words, if you want to fix that without any bad and possibly damaging hacks, please file a bug on bugzilla:. Regards, Vogone talk 17:16, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
- In fact, the development team told us to delete it, and so we did. --Rschen7754 18:12, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
- Damaging hacks? Why did the development team say this? What is the problem with having a page entitled [[Main Page]]? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:36, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
- You will need to ask them: Wikidata:Contact the development team. --Rschen7754 02:38, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
- Damaging hacks? Why did the development team say this? What is the problem with having a page entitled [[Main Page]]? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:36, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
- I deleted it because of Wikidata:Contact_the_development_team/Archive/2013/10#Making_main_page_redirects_happen. You could have asked me before complaining here about it. Legoktm (talk) 02:43, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
Hello. My bot was creating labels with underscores in them instead of spaces and User:PinkAmpersand blocked it. Now I resolve the problem. Please lift the block. Thank you very much.--Calak (talk) 10:04, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
Unblocked. Please keep an eye on the next few hundred edits, though, just to make sure that the problem doesn't reoccur. — PinkAmpers&(Je vous invite à me parler) 10:13, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
- No worry, I test it certainly. Thank you very much.--Calak (talk) 10:18, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
