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New RfD archiving bot besides Hazard-Bot

This section was archived on a request by: Rippitippi (⧼Talkpagelinktext</small>) 05:25, 11 February 2014 (UTC)⧽

Hazard-Bot doesn't archive RfD since December 17. I think a new bot is needed because Hazard-Bot is often broken.--GZWDer (talk) 12:35, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

I think BeneBot* can do this as it already marks the requests as deleted. Perhaps it could even archive them instead of marking ad deleted, if nobody minds. Bene* talk 20:57, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
There are sometimes (very rarely) non-trivial requests which require some discussion, even after they were deleted or the deletion has been rejected. If those can be sorted out and kept longer (for example, all requests with more than one edit), I do not see any problems with immediate archivation of other deleted requests.--Ymblanter (talk) 08:42, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

  Support --Rippitippi (talk) 02:11, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

see Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Bot/BeneBot* 6. -- Bene* talk 21:29, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Days in the calendar are not subclasses of the calendar

This section was archived on a request by: Rippitippi (⧼Talkpagelinktext</small>) 05:24, 11 February 2014 (UTC)⧽

Could someone please go to the items with subclass of (P279) -> Solar Hijri calendar (Q950135), remove the subclass, and add part of (P361) -> Solar Hijri calendar (Q950135). --Arctic.gnome (talk) 04:37, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

  Support Emw (talk) 04:54, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
I wonder which language caused that mixup; it sounds like we have some language not differentiating well enough between the two. --Izno (talk) 22:15, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
I think the distinction is easy to miss in many languages, especially in items about time. Dexbot seems to have added these errant 'subclass of' claims (e.g. here). Amir, the operator, speaks Farsi natively and English well. I've seen native German and Dutch speakers who speak English otherwise perfectly make precisely the same error. Emw (talk) 02:02, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

I was aware of the difference (e.g. 1019 SH (Q5600945)) my English is good enough but It was my bot that did this thing because in codes we don't write labels, we write numbers (e.g. 31 instead of "instance of") and something wrong happened there I'm sorry for this and I'll fix it by tomorrow Amir (talk) 11:56, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

  Done check and I think maybe there are 10 left unfixed (at the most)Amir (talk) 13:57, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! --Izno (talk) 23:42, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Replace P992 with P366

This section was archived on a request by: Rippitippi (⧼Talkpagelinktext</small>) 05:22, 11 February 2014 (UTC)⧽

Would be nice if a bot could come along and switch P992 (P992) with the same value of has use (P366). --Izno (talk) 15:54, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

My bot is working on it a sample, It'll be done soon Amir (talk) 16:46, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
I was going to bug you, but decided to post here instead. Looks like the substitution is going fine. Ping me when you're done so I can delete the old property. --Izno (talk) 18:54, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
I slept and it was finished and you noticed and deleted it, thank you :) Amir (talk) 01:44, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
Yup, it's cool. Nice to have such an easy property to replace. --Izno (talk) 03:05, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Authors not imported from Wikisource

This section was archived on a request by: Rippitippi (⧼Talkpagelinktext</small>) 19:45, 14 February 2014 (UTC)⧽.

It'll be very helpful to get list of authors (pages uses author information template) which doesn't have Wikidata item. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:19, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

I think [1] might work (based on category) but I fear there is too much data for the tool. Maybe a script running from the console and having more time would be a better option. Kind regards, -- Bene* talk 16:02, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
You can also go through all lower categories by hand. See [2]. This works at least. -- Bene* talk 16:05, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Rename "task force" to project"

Per Project project chat proposal (most people supported, two opposed, but just because of the work associated with the renaming). Pages containing "XX task force shoud be renamed to Wikiproject XX. Incoming links should also be updated. --Zolo (talk) 20:21, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Should probably use "WikiProject" with the capital instead. That is what is used on Wikipedia anyway. Del♉sion23 (talk) 23:31, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
I also think we should stay consistent and use WikiProject. --Tobias1984 (talk) 16:04, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
I'm just writing this, so this doesn't become archived by accident. Anybody have time to do this? --Tobias1984 (talk) 15:34, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
  Support, --Marsupium (talk) 16:10, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Should we just do this by hand? --Tobias1984 (talk) 08:06, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

I guess we can, as it is not very difficult, and it does not matter much if we forget some pages. --Zolo (talk) 09:58, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

The reason for the proposal was that a 'task force' suggests that it be something temporary (short in duration). However a 'project' is also by definition something temporary. I would prefer something like 'theme workplace' where one works on a certain theme (goal), or 'theme discussion'. Bever (talk) 23:02, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Delete value

Please delete original broadcaster (P449) ==> TBS Holdings Inc. (Q605233) at ko:category:TV 도쿄 계열 애니메이션. It's my mistake. Thank you. --Konggaru (talk) 08:21, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

I can't revert them because if I revert, my normal contributions will be removed. --Konggaru (talk) 08:31, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
Article list is this: tools.wmflabs.org/bene/itemsbycat/?wiki=kowiki&category=TV+도쿄+계열+애니메이션&offset=0&limit=0&recursionlevel=0&format=plain#missing --Konggaru (talk) 08:35, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: Pasleim (⧼Talkpagelinktext</small>) 12:12, 26 February 2014 (UTC)⧽

UN security council resolutions

For all pages with a link to a Wikipedia article in en:Category:United Nations Security Council resolutions (depth = 1 as they are categorized by year). We could have:

  • description:
  • ca: Resolució del Consell de Seguretat de les Nacions Unides
  • de: Resolution des UN-Sicherheitsrats
  • en: United Nationa Security Council resolution
  • es: Resolución del Consejo de Seguridad de las Naciones Unidas
  • fr: résolution du Conseil de sécurité des Nations Unies
  • zh: 联合国安全理事会决议
  • The label can also be automatically created but it is a bit more difficult. In French that would be:
I'm working on it. --ValterVB (talk) 09:34, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
  Done can be useful add property follows (P155) and followed by (P156)?
Thanks. Yes, I think it would be useful as a qualifier of instance of (P31) but I have seen that some people object to adding qualifiers to p31. --Zolo (talk) 11:58, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
Qualifiers will not be queryable in the foreseeable future. Furthermore, qualifiers on P31 (i.e., rdf:type) are not well-defined and so likely will not be included in any RDF export. I recommend using 'preceded by' and 'succeeded by' as top-level properties here. Emw (talk) 15:50, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Can someone please rerun the bot with the correct English spelling (United Nations is misspelt)? --—Wylve (talk) 10:47, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

  Done --ValterVB (talk) 11:23, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: --Pasleim (talk) 17:30, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Add qualifiers

Hello,

Could someone add burial plot reference (P965) as a qualifier of place of burial (P119) : Père Lachaise Cemetery (Q311) ? E.g. https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q55375&curid=58092&diff=109852064&oldid=109818819

You can use categories of the French Wikipedia (fr:Catégorie:Personnalité enterrée au Père-Lachaise par division) or Wikimedia Commons (commons:Category:Grave of Claude Chabrol.

After that, I'll add sources. Pyb (talk) 13:36, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

@Pyb:   Done.--Underlying lk (talk) 09:12, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
Thank you very much Pyb (talk) 10:11, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: --Pasleim (talk) 17:29, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Remove claim Property:P31: Q387917

The claim instance of (P31): administrative divisions of Germany (Q387917) is added by user User_talk:Androoox#German_city to cities/municipalities while the item administrative divisions of Germany (Q387917) should only be added to subclasses of administrative entities. Please can a bot remove these claims. Michiel1972 (talk) 11:21, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

finally done (without bot) --Pasleim (talk) 17:28, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: --Pasleim (talk) 17:28, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Add brothers and sisters

When two persons have the same father (P22) and the same mother (P25), add them respectively as P7 (P7) (or P9 (P9) according to their sex). Thanks. — Ayack (talk) 19:26, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

This can be deduced.. There is no need. GerardM (talk) 08:22, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
GerardM: Sorry but I don't understand your point. Are you saying that the P7 (P7) and P9 (P9) properties have no use as they can be deduced? If so, I don't agree because the father or the mother are not always known, which means you can't deduce the brothers and sisters. — Ayack (talk) 15:54, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
There is this property for "family relations" that one can be used I think :) GerardM (talk) 08:34, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

RFC - DBpedia import process

This conversation is now taking place at Wikidata:Requests_for_comment/DBpedia_import_process.

I have been to the DBpedia conference in Amsterdam. One frequent topic was how DBpedia and Wikidata could cooperate / coexist and how DBpedia can use its processes of its own update for Wikidata as well. What we came up with is more or less along these lines:

  • The first step is data collection
  • The second step is match the results to Wikidata and DBpedia.
    • produce a lists with differences where Wikidata and the new data differ.
    • update the new information to Wikidata / DBpedia simultaneously
  • Ask the communities to reconcile the differences between the source Wikipedia and Wikidata

The other thing that is really relevant is that many people at the conferences represented GLAM partners of our movement. There were people from Europeana, the Dutch National Library among others. They are quite interested to run pilot projects on subjects like "Dutch authors" and "Dutch monuments". These would then be run along the lines as described above.

In one meeting I mentioned the Commons/Wikidata integration. I explained why the use of the "Creator" and "Institution" templates are a good step in preparation of this integration. I urged them to keep as much meta data as possible after an initial import so that we may make use of it when the Commons/Wikidata integration is a reality.

This is an RFC. My question is to get comments on the proposed process of importing data as harvested by the DBpedia processes (including the reporting on differences). Thanks, GerardM (talk) 09:00, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Did you discuss about the model/property mappings ? It seems important. I know there is already work done on this, but we need to precise that. TomT0m (talk) 13:36, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
For them the way we have our "model" is/will be very much a challenge on so many levels. They have a big challenge to continuously keep a mapping to what our model happens to be. We do have qualifiers and processes to add but particularly remove properties. They already have a Wikidata project within Wikidata so they are aware of such issues. Thanks, GerardM (talk)

One very important thing to mention is DBpedia's Mapping Wiki. There they maintain their ontology as well as the mappings of templates and template parameters on different Wikipedias. They already cross-reference Wikidata. This is an extremely valuable resource for anyone wanting to map between DBpedia and Wikidata, as well as anyone wanting to import data from Wikipedia templates. It might even be possible to write a generic import bot that relies solely on the mappings defined on the mappings wiki. -- Duesentrieb (talk) 13:37, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

GerardM, please create an RFC in Wikidata:Requests_for_comment. I also recommend having the RFC put into the 'Selected proposals and requests for comment' notice at the top of 'Watchlist'. Thanks, Emw (talk) 13:59, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

I created an RFC.. there is probably some additional MediaWiki magic needed for it to be visible. GerardM (talk) 15:05, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
There is no magic, it has to be manually add it to the list of open RfCs. I'll do it. TomT0m (talk) 17:16, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

High volume: NGC labels

There are a huge amount of items about astronomical objects that don't have labels in English and German and have no statements. An example would be NGC 6909 (Q1148443). Can somebody scan those infoboxes (ru and nl probably have a lot of transclusions) and add the English and German label. German with "-" please. E.g.: NGC-6909 @Paperoastro: Is there a property that a bot could set and readily source? --Tobias1984 (talk) 12:20, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

(Just curious): Why "German with "-" please""? As far as I can see in de:Kategorie:New General Catalogue, neither the German Wikipedia articles nor their Wikidata items use this format currently. --YMS (talk) 16:49, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
I am not sure why German-Wikipdia is not using the "-". It is usually considered bad form in German to separate dual names. But some people remember their grammar de:NGC-507-Gruppe. I just saw that you are native German. Do you think we should go for correct grammar or treat the catalogue number as special? --Tobias1984 (talk) 17:12, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
I don't think writing NGC-123 would be correct grammar. It's a name and a number, no need for hyphenation (cf. street numbers, movie titles, etc.). The case of NGC-507-Gruppe is a different one, it's a case for Durchkopplung (Q1267038), as two things "NGC 507" and "Gruppe" get connected together, and so all spaces get replaced by dashes). --YMS (talk) 17:29, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
Oh that's right, my example is a case of Durchkopplung. I am not so sure about the analogy to street numbers because those are usually words and not strings like "NGC". But I can live without the dash in this case. --Tobias1984 (talk) 17:59, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
Using alias, for me there isn't any problem to use NGC<space>number and NGC<dash>number if used in a specific language. The right nomenclature is here. --Paperoastro (talk) 19:35, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Persons and it.wikipedia

In this report there are persons with no claim sex http://208.80.153.172/wdq/?q=claim[569]_AND_noclaim[21] many of them has it.wikipedia link. it.wikipedia is the only wiki that has got a template for all persons. It contain name, last name,sex etc.. we can inport all missing information from it.wiki, at the same time check that there is instance of (P31)->human (Q5) and remove P107 (P107) if present. The best choice is scan [3] and use this category for alla data @ValterVB:@Ricordisamoa:--Rippitippi (talk) 00:34, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

For whoever wants to take it, the job has already been discussed previously and got consensus, all necessary properties created. The "translation" of the data to import is described at User_talk:Legobot/properties.js#Italian_person_data. --Nemo 02:03, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Italian Wikipedia person data

General discussion: Wikidata:Project chat#Italian person data (now archived -> consensus found); original location User_talk:Legobot/properties.js#Italian_person_data
  • Category: w:it:Categoria:BioBot (200+ thousands people, cf. [4])
  • Properties: w:it:Template:Bio#Tabella_completa, to be fetched from template usage (not everything translated to categories)
    • Examples: name and gender (mandatory), surname, place/date/year of birth/death, one out of 552 defined jobs
    • More details will follow, are you also interested in a mapping for the jobs? There's a lot of them and I doubt any other wiki has them in a structured format. --Nemo 19:27, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
    • I will work on implementing template parsing hopefully by this weekend.
      • Yes jobs will be great! We can utilize Property:P101 and Property:P106. I think the best way to map this out would be just a list of *[[:it:Politico]] -> [[Q82955]] or something. Legoktm (talk) 19:51, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
        • That would be a smart way but I don't know well enough how properties should be fed here (if with a list or what else), I've asked others to join the discussion here and I hope someone will... Attività is the main occupation; Attività2, ..., and AttivitàAltre the additional ones; they only include the main occupations of the subject, because categorising people by secondary occupations (as en.wiki does) is strictly forbidden on it.wiki. --Nemo 08:49, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
      •   Done, example. Map between Italian values and Wikidata items done by Ladsgroup, Nemo checked the equivalencies between Italian names.
    • Sesso: P21 -> 6581097 if M, 6581072 if F (note that this is used only for grammatical purposes so "intersex" is not used; in non-trivial cases, it may reflect the policy here on Wikidata or not)
        Done
    • LuogoNascita (but LuogoNascitaLink should prevail if available): P19 -> the entry for the item corresponding to the page with that title
        Done
    • LuogoNascitaAlt: same as above, for complex cases with alternatives; maybe a secondary statement for P19? no other property is available
    • NoteNascita: pull sources for the Nascita statements from the ref tags in here.
    • LuogoMorte, LuogoMorteLink and LuogoMorteAlt, NoteMorte: same as above but for P20
        Done
    • Nazionalità: P27 -> linked country
    • NazionalitàNaturalizzato: additional statement to P27
        Done for countries instances of a subclass of state (Q7275) except a few, see list of articles not imported yet and breakdown by their value.
        Info See the map from adjectives to countries. The local information is based on current sources. Except 4 entities to sync, all the values used are compatible with this property. See further discussion.
    • PostNazionalità: this field may contain sources for any of the previous statements (more general ones could also be right after the end of the template or in FineIncipit).
    • FineIncipit: replaces standard occupation etc., maybe add to item description?
    • Immagine: P18 -> image with this name (check if it's on Commons; over 35k usages)
    • For each statement: add as reference the Property:P143 with value Q11920, example cat (update: as discussed at project chat).
    • First name (Nome): P735
        Done where it equals an it.wiki article and hence entity.
    • Last name (Cognome): P734
        Done (same);   Info below on disambiguation pages, transliteration
    • Day and month of birth (GiornoMeseNascita) + Year of birth (AnnoNascita): P569
    • Day and month of death (GiornoMeseMorte) + Year of death (AnnoMorte): P570
      Do not add a date in contrast with a Integrated Authority File (Q36578) statement if available.
        Done in part by Dexbot, dates after 1920.   Info ViscoBot had started but stopped long ago.
        Question I also wrote the code to import dates of birth and death but I'm not running it yet because there is one important question: What is the colander model you use as date of birth and death? in some places Gregorian wasn't common until 1912 so I can't add these dates before 1912 because the bot can't be sure about calender model of these dates  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ladsgroup (talk • contribs).
      We're verifying, I'll let you know the final outcome. Past discussions seem to have all agreed on forcing gregorian calendar in the template, with the option to indicate giulian calendar next to it with a warning. --Nemo 13:27, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
    • Title to be used before name, or after it in some languages other than Italian (Titolo): P511 (about 3k usages)
    • Missing properties:
      • Unrecognized citizenship (peoples without state), e.g. Kurds (Cittadinanza)
      • Free text notes on dates of birth/death (NoteNascita, NoteMorte): some sources could be extracted from here. Example content is very varied but in 55 % of cases contains an URL, that could be imported as source.
    This should be it. --Nemo 08:49, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
A proposal on sourcing for Wikidata was moved to Wikidata:Project chat#Proposal: preventive control of imported data correctness
As far as edit summaries go, the bot actually does send proper edit summaries, in the format of Bot: Setting [[Property:{pid}|{pid}]] to [[{target_qid}]]; using [[:{lang}:{source}]]; requested by [[User talk:{user}|{user}]], it's just that the software doesn't support them yet. It may be worth putting this run on hold until the software does support custom summaries.
I do believe that at this point, we may need to look how to properly source these claims, since they are no longer "obvious". Maybe that should be a discussion on Project chat? I believe there are legitimate concerns before this request can go forward, as well as code that I need to work on. Legoktm (talk) 01:23, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
If edit summaries are a problem, we could just use a different username for the bot, like "Italian Wikipedia person data import bot".
What fields are no longer obvious, specifically? Surely place of birth is more "obvious" and less controversial than gender, for instance. I think it makes sense to start only with the "obvious" ones: it seems to me that most worries are about nationalist controversies, so probably those are the only fields to exclude in the first run? Otherwise, sources exist of course, you could pull them at the same time if people feel it can't be done later. --Nemo 08:50, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
Ping. I have updated the data above, it seems to me that we no longer have anything to wait for? Were the easy parts like gender done already? --Nemo 08:58, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Clean up sources for Property:P21

Will be good idea to remove from Property:P21 sources specified by Property:P143 as Italian Wikipedia or Swedish Wikipedia, if Property:P143 was also imported from Virtual International Authority File or patronymic. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:16, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

@EugeneZelenko: This request looks simlair to "#Remove obsolete etc" above? -- Lavallen (talk) 19:16, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
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