Wikidata:Requests for deletions/Archive/2017/10/08

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Q17183163

Q17183163: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Not-notable talk page. Steak (talk) 09:48, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

 Deleted by Romaine (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 03:50, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q5185641

Q5185641: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Not-notable talk page. Steak (talk) 09:49, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

 Deleted by Romaine (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 03:50, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q12129096

Q12129096: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Not-notable talk page. Steak (talk) 09:50, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

 Deleted by Romaine (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 03:50, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q26959939

Q26959939: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Not-notable talk page. Steak (talk) 10:01, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

On hold This item is linked from 1 other. --DeltaBot (talk) 10:10, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

 Deleted by Romaine (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 03:50, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q9175656

Q9175656: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

I don't see a reason why this should be kept as a permanent duplicate of Category:Glock (Q8968484). Steak (talk) 21:37, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

On hold This item is linked from 1 other. --DeltaBot (talk) 21:40, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

 Deleted by Romaine (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 03:50, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q30788902

Q30788902: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Page deleted on en.wikipedia; no other links. --Black Falcon (talk) 21:38, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

 Deleted by Romaine (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 03:50, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q24981132 and Q25307968

1. Q24981132 (delete | history | links | logs)
2. Q25307968 (delete | history | links | logs) (all on TAB)

Pages deleted on en.wikipedia; no other links. Black Falcon (talk) 21:55, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

 Deleted by Romaine (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 03:50, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q8331021

Q8331021: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Page deleted on en.wikipedia; no other links. --Black Falcon (talk) 01:42, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

 Deleted by Romaine (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 03:50, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q41258648

Q41258648: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Page deleted on en.wikipedia; no other links. --Black Falcon (talk) 01:44, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

 Deleted by Romaine (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 03:50, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Bulk deletion request: Years in Albania

1. Q13235812 (delete | history | links | logs)
2. Q8111766 (delete | history | links | logs)
3. Q25225716 (delete | history | links | logs)
4. Q25244157 (delete | history | links | logs)
5. Q8956054 (delete | history | links | logs)
6. Q25073071 (delete | history | links | logs)
7. Q25073068 (delete | history | links | logs)
8. Q25309919 (delete | history | links | logs)
9. Q25241609 (delete | history | links | logs) (all on TAB)

Pages deleted on en.wikipedia; no other links. Black Falcon (talk) 02:43, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

 Deleted by Romaine (talk • contribs • logs) - Romaine (talk) 03:52, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Bulk deletion request: Years in the Adal Sultanate

1. Q25065953 (delete | history | links | logs)
2. Q25065952 (delete | history | links | logs)
3. Q25038405 (delete | history | links | logs)
4. Q25038401 (delete | history | links | logs)
5. Q25237906 (delete | history | links | logs)
6. Q25237909 (delete | history | links | logs)
7. Q25237893 (delete | history | links | logs) (all on TAB)

Pages deleted on en.wikipedia; no other links. Black Falcon (talk) 02:47, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

 Deleted by Romaine (talk • contribs • logs) - Romaine (talk) 03:52, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q8637946

Q8637946: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Page deleted on en.wikipedia; no other links. --Black Falcon (talk) 02:40, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

 Deleted by Romaine (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 03:50, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q30649347

Q30649347: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Page deleted on en.wikipedia; no other links. --Black Falcon (talk) 02:48, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

 Deleted by Romaine (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 03:50, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q5270123

Q5270123: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Not notable talk page, per WD:Notability #1. Steak (talk) 07:54, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

 Deleted by Romaine (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 04:00, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q17253623

Q17253623: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Not notable enough: she never became a MEP and helds no other position. --Nomen ad hoc (talk) 21:11, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

 Deleted by Romaine (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 04:00, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q41591149

Q41591149: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Duplicated another page, and has been created incorrectly, now empty, not correct to merge  — billinghurst sDrewth 04:14, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

 Deleted by Romaine (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 04:00, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Bulk deletion request: Empty year categories

Pages deleted on en.wikipedia; no other links. Black Falcon (talk) 04:23, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

 Done MisterSynergy (talk) 05:49, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q16724427

Thomas Piketty - September 2013 Curriculum vitae (Q16724427): no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Unpublished document; useless item. --Nomen ad hoc (talk) 14:51, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

On hold This item is linked from 1 other. --DeltaBot (talk) 15:01, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

 Keep Used as source. Tubezlob (🙋) 16:37, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

Somewhat unusual, but indeed used as a reference.  Not deleted —MisterSynergy (talk) 06:05, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q41663352

Q41663352: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Violation of biographies of living persons. Sjoerd de Bruin (talk) 15:14, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

On hold This item is linked from 2 others. --DeltaBot (talk) 15:20, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

 Deleted by MisterSynergy (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 06:10, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q3351027

Q3351027: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Doesn't match criterias. --Nomen ad hoc (talk) 10:25, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

On hold This item is linked from 1 other. --DeltaBot (talk) 10:30, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

 Deleted by MisterSynergy (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 06:10, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q41726794

Darrow (Q41726794): family name: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Duplicate  — billinghurst sDrewth 05:55, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

 Done Redirect created by MisterSynergy, you can do it yourself next time. --DeltaBot (talk) 06:10, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q41726839

Darrow (Q41726839): family name: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Duplciate creation  — billinghurst sDrewth 05:58, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

 Done Redirect created by MisterSynergy, you can do it yourself next time. --DeltaBot (talk) 06:10, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q20614913

Mayachny (Q20614913): human settlement in Kumertau Urban Okrug, Republic of Bashkortostan, Russia: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

See Talk:Q20614913 Deryck Chan (talk) 15:38, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

 Done Redirect created by Deryck Chan, you can do it yourself next time. --DeltaBot (talk) 15:40, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q2864737

religious art (Q2864737): art that is religious in theme: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Same as (Q3320548) DDupard (talk) 12:37, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

On hold This item is linked from 2 others. --DeltaBot (talk) 12:40, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

 Done. User:MisterSynergy merged Q3320548 into Q2864737. Deryck Chan (talk) 15:47, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q28020925

list of biblical characters (Q28020925): Wikimedia list article: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Contains only subpage of wikidata talkpage. Steak (talk) 09:41, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

On hold This item is linked from 1 other. --DeltaBot (talk) 09:50, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

 Done. I've merged it into Q1075643, which in turn should've been indexed at Q12405827 instead of this item. The reason it wasn't done in the past was probably because the English Wikipedia has a different content structure from most other Wikipedias. English Wikipedia calls this "list of biblical names"; other Wikipedias "list of biblical people". Deryck Chan (talk) 16:06, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q41729341

GW170104 (Q41729341): gravitational wave event: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

There already exists (Q30103713) Jckowal (talk) 13:56, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

 Done Redirect created by Pasleim, you can do it yourself next time. --DeltaBot (talk) 16:30, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q41738839

Q41738839: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Created by mistake ℇsquilo 15:08, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

 Deleted by Pasleim (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 16:30, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q41738840

Q41738840: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Created by mistake ℇsquilo 15:08, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

 Deleted by Pasleim (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 16:30, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q30808144

Q30808144: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Page deleted on en.wikipedia; no other links. --Black Falcon (talk) 15:37, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

 Deleted by Pasleim (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 16:30, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q29866528

Crocon (Q29866528): Wikimedia disambiguation page: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Merged with Q16330887 FocalPoint (talk) 16:25, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

 Done Redirect created by Pasleim, you can do it yourself next time. --DeltaBot (talk) 16:30, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q12279887

Q12279887: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Was connected to a promotional article for a private company on bgwiki — Luchesar • T/C 08:17, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

 Deleted by Pasleim (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 17:20, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q33125434

Q33125434: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Empty. Steak (talk) 10:25, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

 Deleted by Pasleim (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 17:20, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q18670754

Q18670754: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Not-notable template subpage. Steak (talk) 10:26, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

 Deleted by Pasleim (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 17:20, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q16747606

Q16747606: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Not-notable template subpage. Steak (talk) 10:26, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

 Deleted by Pasleim (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 17:20, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q21832559

Q21832559: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Not-notable template subpage. Steak (talk) 10:26, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

 Deleted by Pasleim (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 17:20, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q25708170

Q25708170: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Not-notable template subpage. Steak (talk) 10:26, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

 Deleted by Pasleim (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 17:20, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q16747607

Q16747607: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Not-notable template subpage. Steak (talk) 10:26, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

 Deleted by Pasleim (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 17:20, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q21851717

Q21851717: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Not-notable template subpage. Steak (talk) 10:26, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

 Deleted by Pasleim (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 17:20, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q25710435

Q25710435: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Not-notable template subpage. Steak (talk) 10:27, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

 Deleted by Pasleim (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 17:20, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q18644996

Q18644996: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Not-notable template subpage. Steak (talk) 10:27, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

 Deleted by Pasleim (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 17:20, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q18670124

Q18670124: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Not-notable template subpage. Steak (talk) 10:27, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

 Deleted by Pasleim (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 17:20, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q41748070

Q41748070: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Empty item, no links or sitelinks. -- irn (talk) 20:01, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

 Deleted by HakanIST (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 20:20, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q41746627

Q41746627: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Not notable, no links or sitelinks. -- irn (talk) 20:04, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

 Deleted by HakanIST (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 20:20, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q41746852

Q41746852: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Not notable, no links or sitelinks. -- irn (talk) 20:05, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

 Deleted by HakanIST (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 20:20, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q41745775

Q41745775: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Empty item, no links or sitelinks. -- irn (talk) 20:07, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

 Deleted by HakanIST (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 20:20, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q38791127

Q38791127: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Duplicating q7566 Infovarius (talk) 12:31, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

Q38791127 is about the set "mather + father". Set parent (Q7566) about or subset "mather", or subset "father". --Fractaler (talk) 14:33, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

 Not done, different from parent (Q7566) --Pasleim (talk) 21:22, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q30504802

water traffic site (Q30504802): geographical area which includes a navigable body of water (this designation is used in Finnish heritage site catalogues): (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs | discussion)

Nonsense Eingangskontrolle (talk) 11:26, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

On hold This item is linked from 10+ others. --DeltaBot (talk) 11:30, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

Why? Please motivate your requests. Sjoerd de Bruin (talk) 14:07, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

@Eingangskontrolle: please respond. Sjoerd de Bruin (talk) 15:14, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

• Keep: Seems to be valid (the Finnish label translates as "waterborne place"), and in use. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:28, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

Its complety empty - whatever "vesiliikennepaikka" may be. --Eingangskontrolle (talk) 14:25, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

• On hold - I've asked User:Susannaanas (who created this item and is a highly esteemed Finnish Wikimedian) what she wants to do with this item. Deryck Chan (talk) 16:40, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
  • @Deryck Chan: Thank you for the compliment! This item has been created for the Wiki Loves Monuments as a location type. Unfortunately the mass operation did not allow us to work on all the translations yet, or find established thesaurus entries for all. I will research this one for such. It is a "water traffic site". If you know the translation, corresponding concept or an existing entry, I would be happy for the hint. Thanks, Susanna Ånäs (Susannaanas) (talk) 18:18, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

 Not done --Pasleim (talk) 21:21, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q3625412

axle (Q3625412): central shaft for a rotating wheel or gear: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

This element is a copy of Q188209. --Rbianchi96 (talk) 20:32, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

 - 176.104.214.195 21:10, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

 Done Redirect created by Pasleim, you can do it yourself next time. --DeltaBot (talk) 21:20, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q39627308

Q39627308: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Not exists Infovarius (talk) 10:58, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

On hold This item is linked from 1 other. --DeltaBot (talk) 11:01, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

Where? Description said: "objects that make up the group; objects of the previous level of abstraction". Future objects, for example, exist? --Fractaler (talk) 12:43, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

"object of a group without objects" by definition not exists. --Infovarius (talk) 13:49, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, I did not find definition "object of a group without objects". Ok, examples: aircraft with 1 engine (Q10331907) (Q30103061). Has the next object - "double-engine aircraft" (dyad (Q29431432)). Previous is "zero-engine aircraft"/unpowered aircraft (Q17145920) (set of 0 (Q39604693)). Objects of "zero-engine aircraft"/unpowered aircraft (Q17145920) and are objects of set of 0 (Q39604693). Everything depends on the position of the observer in the system "Subset->Set->Superset" and relative name of the item.. And if there is a more suitable tool to simulate a sequence of transitions "0) Absence of object-> 1) Appearance of object-> ∞) Increase in the number of objects", I will study them with pleasure. --Fractaler (talk) 15:21, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

 Keep depends on context. d1g (talk) 12:50, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

@Fractaler: the nominated item needs a proper definition, which is not given at the moment. This means you need to provide either an external reference which describes “object of empty group”, or a Wikipedia article in any language (i.e. an existing duplicate item). Otherwise we need to consider it as “original research”, which is a common-sense deletion rationale according to Wikidata:Deletion policy#Deletion of items (Phase I). The same applies to many other of your items—they may not be nominated for deletion right now, but it would help if you prepare references for them as well. —MisterSynergy (talk) 09:15, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

Added: "evolutionary" precursors of the elements of the group (groups that appear after the 0-group). Briefly: We have a (step-by-step) transition of quantity to quality (Q4184872) in the (spiral, evolutionary process. Elements of some previous level (elements of 0-group) are elements of the 0-group (the group that gives the variety of the level that it created). This mathematical terminology/item's tool can be used to model evolutionary processes (more precisely, processes of the appearance of an element from a set of predecessors). Perhaps there is a non-mathematical method/terms for specifying the evolutionary elements of the evolutionary set that precedes evolutionary groups (0-group, 1-group, 2-group, etc.), but I do not know such terms --Fractaler (talk) 10:14, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

@Fractaler, I did not ask for more claims, improved descriptions, or more explanation by you; all of that does not help to prove that this item is not originial research. I asked you to provide external references. If this is a mathematical concept, I am sure it has already been described somewhere, so I’d like to study it. —MisterSynergy (talk) 10:25, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

It's just the use of mathematics in modeling evolutionary processes. I do not keep references to knowledge (it's useless, because these links change every day), which I received during my life (I remember only the general approach, methodology, law, etc.). If this item is removed, I think it will be replaced by another method (albeit less convenient, than without the use of mathematics). --Fractaler (talk) 10:45, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

 Deleted by Pasleim (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 21:30, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

 Done term does not exist. @Fractaler: Please create only items for things which exist in sources, don't "invent" own terms. --Pasleim (talk) 21:30, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q28889497

--Darlie Brewster (talk) 17:24, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q28889497

This was posted and the author, claims that is is an archive of animators from The Hunchback of Notre Dame, Valentina.Anitnelav yet it goes on to "dead name" and identify me as transgender. There is no reason for it as my gender is irrelevant and I want no participation in wikidata. I am the person the article is about. Darlie Brewster (talk) 17:24, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

On hold This item is linked from 2 others. --DeltaBot (talk) 17:30, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

As I wrote during the conversation on my talk page I'd like to make a difference between the item itself (independent from the information on it) and the information on it.

I see a need for an item representing Darlie Brewster as she contributed to The Hunchback of Notre Dame as a character animator on one of the main characters and I think that this is quite a relevant information. To make a statement expressing this information on the item about The Hunchback of Notre Dame (The Hunchback of Notre Dame (Q213787)) this item is needed.

As to the gender and name information: the name was her credit name on this production and according to IMDB also for quite a few more. That's the reason I added it besides her actual name (which has a preferred rank). But for all I care her former name can be deleted if this is considered harassment. That there was a reassignment is one of the main topics in an interview with the person the item represents. But I don't mind to change her gender to female (Q6581072), as this is true, too, just less accurate. - Valentina.Anitnelav (talk) 08:14, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

 Not done keep item but remove sensitive information. --Pasleim (talk) 21:34, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q20116696

Q20116696: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Similar to Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions#Q29848066, this can be replaced with category combines topics (P971) and Property:P31=Wikimedia category (Q4167836). Shouldn't have created this one.
--- Jura 09:31, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

On hold This item is linked from 10+ others. --DeltaBot (talk) 09:40, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

If we decide to delete this, I would replace them.
--- Jura 05:49, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

@Jura1: I support your request: (1) there is not much use to define plenty of category subtypes of Wikimedia category (Q4167836) anyway, and (2) category's main topic (P301) or category combines topics (P971) are better suited to my opinion. —MisterSynergy (talk) 08:49, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

•  Comment I replaced it mostly. Should be possible to deleted it soon.
  --- Jura 13:32, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

 Deleted by Pasleim (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 21:40, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q41745512

Q41745512: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Empty item, no links or sitelinks. -- irn (talk) 21:14, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

 Deleted by Pasleim (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 21:40, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q41744479

Q41744479: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Empty item, no links or sitelinks. -- irn (talk) 21:17, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

 Deleted by Pasleim (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 21:40, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q41743445

Q41743445: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Empty item, no links or sitelinks. -- irn (talk) 21:17, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

 Deleted by Pasleim (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 21:40, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q21973878

incorrect value (Q21973878)

incorrect value (Q21973878): Wikidata reason for deprecation: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Used solely as a qualifier for reason for deprecated rank (P2241); we do not need an item for every type of incorrect property, a single "incorrect value" should suffice (though a more specific explanation is always desirable). --Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:41, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

On hold This item is linked from 10+ others. --DeltaBot (talk) 11:50, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

Likewise incorrect value (Q27533685):

incorrect value (Q27533685): Wikidata reason for deprecation: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

-- Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:34, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

•  Support I agree with the reasoning and final state but I do not think we need to delete anything. Lets just change the label of incorrect value (Q27533685) and incorrect value (Q21973878) to "incorrect value" and merge the two. Pinging @Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick, Sjoerddebruin: who created those items. --Jarekt (talk) 16:38, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
•  Comment Maybe we should have an item per Wikibase datatype. Item per every property is far more demanding than "incorrect value". d1g (talk) 00:20, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

It like these items, it is a value given by a website but we have the proof it is not good, so we directly say "it is not good". Interesting when we found a such error on different websites. Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick (talk) 17:11, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

•  Comment when the qualifier is used, we already know the rank and incorrectness of the statement. Merely adding "incorrect statement" wouldn't really help. If the users wants to provide a more detailed explanation, there isn't really any harm done by using these items.
  --- Jura 22:22, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

•  Support merge as an alternative to deletion. Deryck Chan (talk) 16:36, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

 Done Redirect created by Pasleim, you can do it yourself next time. --DeltaBot (talk) 22:00, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q29102255

Q29102255: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Q4346576 can be modeled as abstraction about real organism(s); "not a" classes aren't very applicable d1g (talk) 20:59, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

@Fractaler: roughly same about Q29102814: it is an agent (Q24229398). d1g (talk) 21:01, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

For example, fictional organism (Q30017383) is Q29102255 and is not digital organism (Q4346576).--Fractaler (talk) 14:13, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

I cannot argue, but it is more natural to claim fictional organism (Q30017383) as some "abstraction" over "not-biological abstraction". "not-biological abstraction" is not used is speech or in writing frequently. Compare: "not-mathematical abstraction" "not-physical abstraction".

We potentially can have many "not a" claims.

Better to use "part of" property for this or similar. d1g (talk) 17:59, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

@Fractaler: e.g. "not-mathematical pyramid Giza" - very weird to hear. I doubt that anyone would write this way in any language. d1g (talk) 18:02, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

abstraction (Q673661) is "high-order concept"? About potentially can have many "not a" claims - for any set (Q36161) we have only 1) extensional definition (Q5421961) 2) intensional definition (Q1026899). Here we have object definition: "biological/non-biological". non-biologial - for intensional definition (Q1026899). We have set "organisms", and we have subsets. "part of" is very big for a smart search. How do you propose to find all organisms that are not biological? --Fractaler (talk) 18:26, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

"all organisms that are not biological?"

Proper word is "abiotic"

"abiotic organism" is almost never used, so I doubt we should accept it in Wikidata as classification.

some item from abstract entity (Q7184903)

And we don't have individual organisms at least right now. d1g (talk) 20:59, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

wikt:en:abiotic: of inorganic matter. fictional organism (Q30017383) - inorganic matter (Q38082850)? What is individual organisms? --Fractaler (talk) 12:27, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

Where would we state

⟨ subject ⟩ instance of (P31) ⟨ digital organism (Q4346576)    ⟩

? Only with programs.

Q29102255 make no sense as class because item for programs was always there and it is unintuitive. d1g (talk) 23:06, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

@Fractaler: any difference between Q29102255 and fictional organism (Q1972868)? d1g (talk) 23:15, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

fictional organism (Q1972868): class of mystical, fictional and suspected lifeforms, excludes real lifeforms -> set digital organism (Q4346576) is not a subset of fictional organism (Q1972868). Set digital organism (Q4346576) is subset of the set Q29102255. --Fractaler (talk) 06:36, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

@Fractaler: any example of digital organism (Q4346576) but not a simulation software (Q11121294)? d1g (talk) 08:27, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

There is 1) Q29956845 and its Q29956950. Running simulation software (Q11121294) (Q29956845) makes Q29875489 (Q29956950) - digital organism (Q4346576). So, while simulation software (Q11121294) is off (not launched), no digital organism (Q4346576). And only when the simulation software (Q11121294) is on (launched), in space of simulation software (Q11121294) (exactly - in RAM - creation, initialization etc. in some object-oriented programming (Q79872), for example, by =new (Q1954125) in C++) digital organism (Q4346576) appears. --Fractaler (talk) 09:13, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

@Fractaler: so why would we need Q29102255 in above description? d1g (talk) 09:25, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

For using (search, etc.) by bots (because Wikidata is machine-readable data (Q6723621)). What is now a simple query to search for all non-biological organisms? --Fractaler (talk) 09:44, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

@Fractaler: in order to use it, it should be understood. I doubt that claims like

• ⟨ organism (Q7239)    ⟩ subclass of (P279) ⟨ Q29102814    ⟩
• ⟨ digital organism (Q4346576)    ⟩ subclass of (P279) ⟨ Q29102255    ⟩

add any value if other users reject them over widely used abstractions

"non-biological organism" - where it was used before? d1g (talk) 10:13, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

Yes,

• ⟨ organism (Q7239)    ⟩ subclass of (P279) ⟨ Q29102814    ⟩
  ;
• (launched)
  ⟨ computer virus (Q485)    ⟩ subclass of (P279) ⟨ digital organism (Q4346576)    ⟩
  ,
  ⟨ digital organism (Q4346576)    ⟩ subclass of (P279) ⟨ Q29102255    ⟩
  ,
  ⟨ Q29102255    ⟩ subclass of (P279) ⟨ Q29102814    ⟩
  ;
• ⟨ fictional organism (Q30017383)    ⟩ subclass of (P279) ⟨ Q29102255    ⟩
  ,
  ⟨ Q29102255    ⟩ subclass of (P279) ⟨ Q29102814    ⟩
  ;
• And organism (Q7239) is the antipod of Q29102255.

opposite (Q1498321) is one of the old and well-known methods of describing the world. Many people use it (see, for example, TRIZ (Q631910)). --Fractaler (talk) 12:01, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

Apart from the points mentioned by d1g:

I really oppose the statements

• ⟨ fictional organism (Q30017383)    ⟩ subclass of (P279) ⟨ Q29102255    ⟩
  and
• ⟨ fictional organism (Q1972868)    ⟩ subclass of (P279) ⟨ Q29102255    ⟩
  .

These statements suggest that fictional organism (Q30017383)/fictional organism (Q1972868) are classes of organisms that consist of some kind of non-biological matter/are organised in some kind of non-biological way (or whatever).

It's not some kind of matter or way of organisation that characterises fictional organism (Q30017383)/fictional organism (Q1972868) and sets them apart from organism (Q7239). They're characterised by their mode of existence (fictional organism (Q30017383) - they don't exist)/ epistemic mode (fictional organism (Q1972868) - they're not known to exist (including being known to not exist)).

If instances of fictional organism (Q1972868) exist, they're organism (Q7239). If they don't exist, they're no organisms at all. - Valentina.Anitnelav (talk) 10:26, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

What is fictional organism (Q30017383)?

⟨ fictional organism (Q30017383)    ⟩ fictional or mythical analog of (P1074) ⟨ organism (Q7239)    ⟩

. What is fictional or mythical analog of (P1074)? fictional or mythical analog of (P1074) is: "used to link a class of items appearing in a creative work with the analogous class of objects in the real world". So, set fictional organism (Q30017383) and set organism (Q7239) are subsets of the set "analogous class". So, what is "analogous class"? --Fractaler (talk) 12:56, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

• fictional organism (Q30017383) is currently a subset of creative work (Q17537576). So the instances of fictional organism (Q30017383) are considered to be creative works.
• ⟨ fictional organism (Q30017383)    ⟩ fictional or mythical analog of (P1074) ⟨ organism (Q7239)    ⟩
  means that fictional organism (Q30017383) is an analog of organism (Q7239) with "analog" having quite a vague meaning. You can think of it as meaning "instances of fictional organism (Q30017383) are conceived as organism (Q7239)".
• I'm sorry, but I really don't see how the sentence "used to link a class of items appearing in a creative work with the analogous class of objects in the real world" implies that there is an "analogous class" that comprises both fictional organism (Q30017383) and organism (Q7239) and how this has anything to do with the question if there is some use for Q29102255 - Valentina.Anitnelav (talk) 15:23, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

• What criteria do you use in your classification when referring to the organism, humanoid, robot, etc. object? "Analogy"? An analogy means that there is the set that includes both (real and unreal object) subsets. Why do you say: 1) a "fictional organism", 2) a "mythical humanoid" 3) a "fictional robot", etc., and not 1) "fictional creation" 2) "mythical creation, 3) "unreal device", etc.? So there is an abstract class that has the attributes of both classes ("fictional organism" + "real organism" -> organism, "mythical humanoid" + "non-mythical humanoid" -> humanoid, "fictional robot" + "real robot" -> robot ) --Fractaler (talk) 15:45, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

I see - this is one interpretation of what it means to be analogue. But why do you need to model this interpretation via subclass-of-relationships? This doesn't add anything of value in addition to the statement that a certain item is the fictional analogue of another certain item. You also don't need a siblingship class for each group of people who are siblings. The statement that x ist the sibling of y suffices. - Valentina.Anitnelav (talk) 09:22, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

We have two "interpretation of what it means to be analogue": 1) for a bot (Q36987817, for queries), and 2) for the person/human (Q36987233). tree (Q272735)-interpretation ("Subset-Set-Superset") is Q36987817. interpretation like "a certain item is the fictional analogue of another certain item" is Q36987233 (it has a previous stage in the evolution of the representation of knowledge - Wikipedia). "The statement that x is the sibling of y suffices" (set A is subset of the set "all A") - it is also Q36987817 --Fractaler (talk) 12:18, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

 Deleted unnecessary and disputed classification. --Pasleim (talk) 22:07, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q41742532

Q41742532: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Empty item, no links or sitelinks. -- irn (talk) 22:04, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

 Deleted by Pasleim (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 22:20, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q41741918

Q41741918: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

No indication of notability, no links or sitelinks. -- irn (talk) 22:08, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

 Done --Alaa :)..! 22:29, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q41741390

Q41741390: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Empty item, no links or sitelinks -- irn (talk) 22:22, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

 Done --Alaa :)..! 22:29, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Q41575170

Q41575170: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

No indication of notability; appears to be personal creation  — billinghurst sDrewth 22:43, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

 Deleted by Sjoerddebruin (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 23:00, 8 October 2017 (UTC)