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Q54974785

Q54974785: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Does not meet WD:N in my opinion. I've found other person by that name, but apparently they are two different people. Wostr (talk) 21:05, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

  Deleted by Ash Crow (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 00:00, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Q54974916

Q54974916: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Does not meet WD:N in my opinion. Wostr (talk) 21:07, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

  Deleted by Ash Crow (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 00:00, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Q54974852

Q54974852: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Does not meet WD:N in my opinion. Wostr (talk) 21:07, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

  Deleted by Ash Crow (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 00:00, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Q7297941

Q7297941: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Created for a Wikipedia page that has been deleted as non-notable Andre Engels (talk) 22:56, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

  Deleted by Ash Crow (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 00:10, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Q17655696

Gordon Parks, African American filmmaker, dies at 93 (Q17655696): Wikinews article: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Link to Wikinews has been moved to Gordon Parks (Q365682). -- MovieFex (talk) 22:58, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

It is inappropriate to conflate Wikinews articles about a person with the Wikipedia articles about that person, even if the 'articles' are essentially biographies. You can see how this separation is made in each item about a match in the World Cup (relevant search for Wikinews articles). (You may think of bringing up items about individual days—@Jura1: knows about these as well—as a counterpoint, but there is a practicality there in combining current events subpages with Wikinews day pages that is generally not found with respect to other Wikinews articles and their subjects.) Mahir256 (⧼Talkupagelinktext⧽) 23:23, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
@Mahir256: Have a look at Help:Sitelinks. According to this it is appropriate. -- --MovieFex (talk) 23:32, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
@MovieFex: I am not sure I see that that's allowed on there with regard to Wikinews sitelinks. For Wikiquote and Wikivoyage (two sites with examples given on that help page), there is no benefit separating the quotes said by a person (if they are all on one Wikiquote page) from the article about that person, or the overall travel-guide description of the place (there should be only one, otherwise there may be unwanted divergences) from the place's encyclopedic description. For Wikisource and Wikinews, however, there is a benefit to keeping separate biographical articles in past print volumes and Wikipedia pages (hence why we have Cornwallis, Charles (1738-1805) (DNB00) (Q19063914) and Charles Cornwallis, 1st Marquess Cornwallis (Q164723)), and news articles about a person and the person itself (hence why we have Fans mourn death and celebrate life of Michael Jackson around the world (Q17659842) and Michael Jackson (Q2831)). In both cases I mentioned, we have on principle to allow for the possibility of more Wikisource-eligible biographies of Charles Cornwallis and more Wikinews articles pertaining to Michael Jackson. As such combining the pages on Gordon Parks (even if there is only one Wikinews article) does not set a good example for those handling Wikinews articles on Wikidata. Mahir256 (talk) 23:46, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
@Mahir256: This arcticle is archived and not editable any more, and according to the policies it was correctely linked. -- MovieFex (talk) 23:55, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
@MovieFex: I have struck {{Not done}} from my first comment and await further comment from other admins on this subject. You may wish to provide quotes (perhaps from Help:Sitelinks since you brought it up, or from elsewhere) that support your view with respect to Wikinews articles, rather than citing 'the policies', since I do not notice any quotes in particular that help your case. Mahir256 (talk) 00:02, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
@Mahir256: If you cannot determine any legitimacy of Wikimedia links to Wikinews in Help:Sitelinks then you logically have to delete links to Commons, too. -- MovieFex (talk) 00:23, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
@MovieFex: I was not saying any links to Wikinews on Wikidata were illegitimate, just that they should not be linked with Wikipedia pages about their subjects—hence why I gave the specific example that I gave and precisely why after undoing your link to Gordon Parks (Q365682), I re-added the link back to Gordon Parks, African American filmmaker, dies at 93 (Q17655696) rather than keeping it unconnected to Wikidata. Since you bring up Commons, I can also group Commons galleries (and more recently Commons categories in many instances) pertaining to a subject in with the statement I made about Wikiquote and Wikivoyage above—namely, that there is no benefit to separating them from their subjects. (For completeness, Wikispecies and Wikibooks links—not entirely sure about Wikiversity links—also fall under that case, as do Meta, MediaWiki, and Wiktionary links under those circumstances that do not run afoul of WD:N.) I am not sure whether my words are rather unclear, or whether there is a language issue at hand between ourselves, but my sincerest apologies if I am failing to get my point across. Mahir256 (talk) 00:38, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
@Mahir256: OK, let's try it from another side: What or where is your source you're leaning on saying that they should not be linked with Wikipedia pages? Besides this, it's not the fault of the links, that you cannot group Wikinews links. This might be a task for further development. -- MovieFex (talk) 00:54, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ @MovieFex: I will agree that further development of Wikidata:Wikinews/Development is needed (@Krassotkin: as Helen has not been around for a while). This unresolved discussion from November has multiple opinions, with the admins present there not entirely on board with the idea of linking Wikinews articles with Wikipedia pages about their subjects (@MisterSynergy, JAn Dudík, -revi, De Wikischim, Ymnes: from that discussion) and this discussion from September has an admin making the same argument, with some brevity, as I am above (@Sjoerddebruin, Brimz: from that discussion). Mahir256 (talk) 01:21, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

I still believe there can be more than 1 article on the subject, therefore Wikinews 'news' article should not be grouped with Wikipedia's (rather) descriptive contents. Wikinews articles should have their own entity with instance of (P31)Wikinews article (Q17633526). — regards, Revi 03:59, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
This seems to about an issue in particular about the English Wikinews. I am no longer active there (have been banned by a sysop who did not like me). So I'm afraid I can't add anything further to this discussion, sorry. De Wikischim (talk) 21:42, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
  • these items should not be merged. Wikinews articles have different properties than biographic items. For example, Wikinews articles have a language of work or date of creation. In addition, there can be multiple Wikinews articles about the same person but the software only allows 1:1 linking. --Pasleim (talk) 13:52, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
It has been said many tines yet, and it is standing policy, that an article of Wikipedia and a news article of Wikinews cannot be linked here. So don't merge please. Ymnes (talk) 20:16, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
  Not deleted As said above, articles of Wikipedia and Wikinews cannot be merged. -Ash Crow (talk) 00:21, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Q55205886

Q55205886: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

I think this item may be an OR of some sort and I think it's not notable. I can't find any reliable sources for this (either in English or in German like e.g. Vizegräfin von Premissel or similar). Wostr (talk) 21:15, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

  Deleted by Ash Crow (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 00:20, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Q17274593

Q17274593: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Not a relevant person. Arabic has been merged to an existing item Q47005357 related to the murders in general Helmoony (talk) 22:30, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

@Helmoony: I'd think that it satisfies a structural need, but maybe others have different ideas. Mahir256 (talk) 05:26, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
@Mahir256: in what way does this satisfy structural need? I don't see any items linking to this item. Mbch331 (talk) 08:19, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
@Mbch331: We have manner of death (P1196) (as shown on David Angell (Q2295429)) and participant (P710) (as shown on Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting (Q48714898)), though there may also be other ways to involve this item. Mahir256 (talk) 15:31, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
@Mahir256: manner of death (P1196) is too general to be used for structural need. cause of death (P509)murder (Q132821) is too general to make this structural need (otherwise we could create statements for anybody that was murdered). Without any incoming links and only general outgoing links I don't see any structural need. If there is structural need, it needs to be proven by adding statements that show the structural need. Mbch331 (talk) 16:59, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
  On hold This item is linked from 1 other. --DeltaBot (talk) 16:50, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
  Deleted by Ash Crow (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 00:30, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Q24215827

Q24215827: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Disambiguation for a duplicate item in geonames --Ahoerstemeier (talk) 17:44, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

  Deleted by Ash Crow (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 00:30, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Q52261234

neutral sex (Q52261234): human who has neutral sex: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

This term is not used outside of Wikidata. We can't just invent our own terminology. Also, it isn't clear what the meaning of the term is, but regardless of it's meaning, we already have items to cover it. For people with sex characteristics that are not fully male or female, we use intersex (Q1097630). For people with genders that are not male or female we use non-binary (Q48270) (aka gender non-binary, gender non-conforming, third gender, third sex). There are also other related items available, including androgyny (Q207959), agender (Q505371), transgender (Q189125), eunuch (Q179294), hermaphrodite (Q303479), etc. The item has only been used in relation to two people, both of which were already designated as non-binary (Q48270). (We may need to change the name of non-binary (Q48270) to "gender non-binary" as this is the less political and legal terminology, but regardless, the scope is already covered.) Kaldari (talk) 16:00, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

  On hold This item is linked from 3 others. --DeltaBot (talk) 01:10, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
  Keep There are many fictional characters with neutral sex. Furthermore, neutral sex is a notable term in East Asia. --Urirnal (talk) 01:12, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
@Urirnal: Can you please explain what "neutral sex" is supposed to mean? I have never heard this term used in English and I have a hard time believing it isn't covered by one of the items I listed above. Can you cite a source that uses this term? Kaldari (talk) 05:34, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
The zh-hans and ko labels match neuter (Q1775461). Ghouston (talk) 08:56, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
@Urirnal: Maybe it should be "sexless" or "ambiguous sex" or "indeterminate sex"? "Neutral sex" just doesn't make any sense (in English at least). Kaldari (talk) 06:19, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
@Kaldari: Yes. The inclusion criteria for real human would be people with intermediate body and identify them as intergender, sexless or genderless. Urirnal (talk) 16:41, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
Norrie May-Welby (Q2184751) and Q26702590 have neutral sex. Urirnal (talk) 16:45, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
  Merge Q52261234 and Q1775461 should be considered, per Ghouston, unfortunatelly in Chinese we say "中性" for "neutral gender" for both grammar and sexual. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 12:15, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
The grammar and sexual items shouldn't be merged just because they are using the same word. It's more likely that neutral sex (Q52261234) should be merged with one of the other existing sexual items, unless it's a different concept to any of them. Can the labels be improved by adding the Chinese/Korean symbols for "grammar" or "sex" or whatever would be done to make them unambiguous? Do the Chinese labels on the other items give any clue about whether they are the same or different to Q52261234? Ghouston (talk) 07:40, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
I think it should be merged with agender (Q505371), and agender (Q505371) should be added to the list of values accepted for sex or gender (P21). It's a more specific instance of non-binary (Q48270), which as enwiki says is a catch-all. Ghouston (talk) 00:47, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
Most of agender people do not have agendered body Urirnal (talk) 05:21, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
neutral sex (Q52261234) doesn't have any requirements about that either. It's also unlikely that Wikidata is going to require medical examinations. Ghouston (talk) 06:14, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
@Urirnal: What I mean to say, is that we have no idea what is in scope for neutral sex (Q52261234), and whether it's any different to agender (Q505371), since its label and description don't explain anything, and there are no Wikipedia articles or external references linked. But you are suggesting that you do have an idea in mind about what it should represent. Is it the same as neutrois (Q1289754)? Ghouston (talk) 00:56, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
@Ghouston: So, you also wanna keep this item independent, even it doesn't give any actual senses? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 04:12, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
It's not useful in its current form, so should be deleted unless somebody can improve it. The only clue is what Urirnal said and the two persons linked to it. Ghouston (talk)

  Not deleted It cannot be deleted as it has a sitelink. -Ash Crow (talk)

Q55416811

Q55416811: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Looks like it was created in error Bovlb (talk) 04:09, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

  Deleted by Mahir256 (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 04:40, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Q55416810

Q55416810: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Looks like it was created in error Bovlb (talk) 04:09, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

  Deleted by Mahir256 (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 04:40, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Q23649931

Lola Sheen (Q23649931): American media personality (born 2005): (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

No sitelinks, Commons category was deleted. Taivo (talk) 16:55, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

  On hold This item is linked from 5 others. --DeltaBot (talk) 17:00, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
Sibling (look next) is also nominated for deletion. Taivo (talk) 17:01, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
  Not deleted per external identifier —MisterSynergy (talk) 06:04, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Q23649881

Sami Sheen (Q23649881): American media personality (born 2004): (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

No sitelinks, Commons category was deleted. Her sibling is also nominated for deletion. Taivo (talk) 16:57, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

  On hold This item is linked from 5 others. --DeltaBot (talk) 17:00, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
  Not deleted per external identifier —MisterSynergy (talk) 06:03, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Q54366634

Anthony Richardson (Q54366634): American actor and voice actor: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

No sitelinks, Commons category was deleted. Taivo (talk) 17:06, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

  On hold This item is linked from 2 others. --DeltaBot (talk) 17:10, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
  Not deleted per external ID and backlinks —MisterSynergy (talk) 06:02, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Q50385341

Q50385341: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Notability -Zest (talk) 13:38, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

@Zyksnowy: --Pasleim (talk) 19:39, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

  Deleted; no improvements were being made —MisterSynergy (talk) 06:06, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

  Deleted by MisterSynergy (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 06:10, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Q50377895

Chinese Young Volunteers Associasion (Q50377895): no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Notability -Zest (talk) 13:40, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

Has a sitelink now, thus   Not deleted —MisterSynergy (talk) 06:08, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Q12858489

Q12858489: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Only contained one Wikipedia article, which has been deleted as dubious. Auntof6 (talk) 07:20, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

  Deleted by Matěj Suchánek (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 13:20, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Redirects for deletion

Template:WikiProject India member

(delete | history | links | entity usage | logs) Orphaned. No pages link to this redirect. Contributes nothing lying idle on Wikimedia servers.

Template:WikiProject India member/doc

(delete | history | links | entity usage | logs) Orphaned. Redundant. This page has been moved. Harsh Rathod Poke me! 07:37, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

  Deleted by Matěj Suchánek (talk • contribs • logs) 13:25, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Q20600689

Watford City (Q20600689): city in McKenzie County, North Dakota, United States of America: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Duplicate of Q1998384 --Andree.sk (talk) 13:08, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

  Done Redirect created by Matěj Suchánek, you can do it yourself next time. --DeltaBot (talk) 13:40, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
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