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Property talk:P20

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Salgo60 in topic Too narrow

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place of death
most specific known (e.g. city instead of country, or hospital instead of city) death location of a person, animal or fictional character
DescriptionPlace where a person died
Representsplace of death (Q18658526)
Data typeItem
Template parameter|death_place= in en:Template:Infobox person
Domainhuman (Q5), organism (Q7239), abstract being (Q15619164), fictional character (Q95074), mythical character (Q4271324), human whose existence is disputed (Q21070568), legendary figure (Q13002315), fictional organism (Q30017383) or group of humans (Q16334295)
Allowed valuesplace (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
Usage notesUse the most specific location known. Use the city instead of country, or hospital instead of the city.
ExampleRené Descartes (Q9191) → Stockholm (Q1754)
Sung Jae-gi (Q4688112) → Mapo Bridge (Q624409)
Richard Dürr (Q2002681) → Lausanne University Hospital (Q2945783)
Captain Nemo (Q1046049) → Pacific Ocean (Q98)
Tracking: sameno label (Q42533342)
Tracking: usageCategory:Pages using Wikidata property P20 (Q20116963)
Tracking: local yes, WD nono label (Q32764771)
<complementary property>place of birth (P19)
See alsodate of death (P570), place of burial (P119)
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Proposal discussionProposal discussion
Current uses
Total1,445,259distinct valuesratio
Main statement1,426,69898.7% of uses130,37010.9
Qualifier18,4611.3% of uses
Reference100<0.1% of uses
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Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P20#Type Q5, Q7239, Q15619164, Q95074, Q4271324, Q21070568, Q13002315, Q30017383, Q16334295, SPARQL
 
Value type “geographic location (Q2221906), fictional location (Q3895768), geographic entity (Q27096213), nursing home (Q837142), medical facility (Q4260475), mythical location (Q3238337), battle (Q178561), hospital (Q16917), astronomical object (Q6999), residential facility (Q67140121), facility (Q13226383), at sea (Q55438959), building (Q41176), geographical feature (Q618123), seminary (Q233324), orbit (Q4130)”: This property should use items as value that contain property “instance of (P31)”. On these, the value for instance of (P31) should be an item that uses subclass of (P279) with value geographic location (Q2221906), fictional location (Q3895768), geographic entity (Q27096213), nursing home (Q837142), medical facility (Q4260475), mythical location (Q3238337), battle (Q178561), hospital (Q16917), astronomical object (Q6999), residential facility (Q67140121), facility (Q13226383), at sea (Q55438959), building (Q41176), geographical feature (Q618123), seminary (Q233324), orbit (Q4130) (or a subclass thereof). (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P20#Value type Q2221906, Q3895768, Q27096213, Q837142, Q4260475, Q3238337, Q178561, Q16917, Q6999, Q67140121, Q13226383, Q55438959, Q41176, Q618123, Q233324, Q4130, SPARQL
 
Item “date of death (P570)”: Items with this property should also have “date of death (P570)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P20#Item P570, SPARQL
 
Qualifiers “country (P17), located in the administrative territorial entity (P131), statement is subject of (P805), sourcing circumstances (P1480), coordinate location (P625), object named as (P1932), house number (P670), street address (P6375), criterion used (P1013), nature of statement (P5102), statement supported by (P3680), statement disputed by (P1310), reason for preferred rank (P7452), reason for deprecated rank (P2241), location (P276), statement is regarded as spoiler for (P7528), present in work (P1441), located on street (P669), determination method (P459), applies to name of object (P8338), conscription number (P4856), elevation above sea level (P2044), direction relative to location (P654), subject named as (P1810), applies to work (P10663)”: this property should be used only with the listed qualifiers. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P20#allowed qualifiers, SPARQL
 
Contemporaries:
if [item A] has this property (place of death (P20)) linked to [item B],
then [item A] and [item B] have to coincide or coexist at some point of history. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). Known exceptions: Zef Eisenberg (Q48699519)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P20#Contemporary, SPARQL
 
Single best value: this property generally contains a single value. If there are several, one would have preferred rank (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). Known exceptions: Louis Seel (Q64605023)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P20#single best value, SPARQL
 
Citation needed: the property must have at least one reference (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P20#citation needed
 
Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as qualifier (Q54828449): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P20#Scope, SPARQL
 
Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P20#Entity types
 
Items with P20 = "no value" (P31=Q5)
People die somewhere (Help)
Violations query: SELECT ?item WHERE { ?item p:P20/a wdno:P20 ; wdt:P31 wd:Q5 } LIMIT 100
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P20#Items with P20 = "no value" (P31=Q5)
 
Dead in jail, with data missing
(Help)
Violations query: SELECT ?item { ?item wdt:P20 ?locationDead. ?locationDead wdt:P31 wd:Q40357. FILTER NOT EXISTS { ?item wdt:P2632 [] }. FILTER NOT EXISTS { ?item wdt:P1196 [] }. FILTER NOT EXISTS { ?item wdt:P106 [] }. FILTER NOT EXISTS { ?item wdt:P1399 [] }. FILTER NOT EXISTS { ?item wdt:P119 [] }. FILTER NOT EXISTS { ?item wdt:P570 [] }. }
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P20#Dead in jail, with data missing
 
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Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.)

 
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Is this useful? edit

Latest comment: 6 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

I appreciate that this is the fact that appears on a death certificate, but does it really tell us anything? For example, someone meeting their demise on a day trip to Spain - (Born:London, Died:Torremolinos). Their data now suggests they had emigrated!? There is nothing in place for "residence at time of death". Periglio (talk) 10:11, 24 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

It is useful for disambiguation. Many sources keep track of dates and places of birth and death, so when matching people it is good to know. --Jarekt (talk) 20:28, 15 May 2017 (UTC)Reply

added P969 (P969) as an allowed qualifier edit

Latest comment: 6 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

... to let people know of this additional qualifier.  — billinghurst sDrewth 00:53, 16 October 2017 (UTC)Reply

I've also added coordinate location (P625) as a permitted qualifier - we occasionally know where someone died by coordinates rather than a formal address (particularly if it was at sea). Example at John Gane (Q26218387). Andrew Gray (talk) 14:10, 27 December 2017 (UTC)Reply

Death of person/item about person edit

Latest comment: 6 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Please see Property_talk:P3342#Link_"death_of_(person)"_to_item_about_(person).
--- Jura 12:12, 6 March 2018 (UTC)Reply

Too narrow edit

Latest comment: 1 year ago2 comments2 people in discussion

I've edited Cesare Bossi (Q15079873). He died while in prison, but P20 doesn't like that. People can die anywhere: in an elevator in a department store, while conducting an orchestra in a concert hall, while performing on stage. Thus I think P20 has to allow for a much broader interpretation of place of death. - Kosboot (talk) 15:44, 18 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

I agree I added battle (Q178561) as Template:Q21510865 as I said in another discussion I feel we need to be able to support mobile phones as i inputs devices and Wikidata should answer in what window lived or died a person see video / discussion were I spoke about this Wikidata:Property_proposal/place_of_resident_registration_at_death - Salgo60 (talk) 10:47, 7 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

Place/Location of death edit

Latest comment: 3 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Thanks to all for recognizing my previous query and revising the property that now allows that one can die in all sorts of places. But now I'm wondering does the property need a specific geographic location? In the case above, Bossi died in King's Bench Prison which was located in London. Does there also need to be a property "geographic location of death", or does the specific building function also as a geographic locator? - Kosboot (talk) 13:51, 17 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

This property is intended to be some specific geographic location. I don't think we can use it like for "prison". Where is concensus for this? Probably some qualifier would be better, or a new property. --Infovarius (talk) 01:10, 21 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

added applies to name of object (P8338) as an allowed qualifier edit

Latest comment: 3 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Qualifier added to indicate the name of the location at the date of death if it has since changed (like an hospital building which was later reconverted). Obviously the name should be among those listed on the place entity page (and ideally it could be deduced if those names have an associated known time span) --FoeNyx (talk) 15:29, 15 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

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