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doctoral student
doctoral student(s) of a professor
  Inverse property of “doctoral advisor (P184):
if [item A] has this property (doctoral student (P185)) linked to [item B],
then [item B] should also have property “doctoral advisor (P184)” linked to [item A]. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P185#Inverse, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
  Value type “human (Q5), fictional human (Q15632617): This property should use items as value that contain property “instance of (P31)”. On these, the value for instance of (P31) should be an item that uses subclass of (P279) with value human (Q5), fictional human (Q15632617) (or a subclass thereof). (Help)
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P185#Value type Q5, Q15632617, hourly updated report, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
  Property “sex or gender (P21)” declared by target items of “doctoral student (P185): If [item A] has this property with value [item B], [item B] is required to have property “sex or gender (P21)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P185#Target required claim P21, SPARQL, SPARQL (by value), SPARQL (new)
  Item “instance of (P31): human (Q5): Items with this property should also have “instance of (P31): human (Q5)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Known exceptions: Charlie Eppes (Q2290414)
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P185#Item P31, search, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
  Scope is as main value (Q54828448): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P185#scope, hourly updated report, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
  Contemporaries:
if [item A] has this property (doctoral student (P185)) linked to [item B],
then [item A] and [item B] have to coincide or coexist at some point of history. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P185#Contemporary, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
  Doctoral student didn't live during the same time as his/her doctoral advisor
death date of person A is before birth date of person B (Help)
Violations query: SELECT DISTINCT ?item { { SELECT ?item WHERE { ?item wdt:P185 ?item2; p:P569/psv:P569 ?birth1_node . ?birth1_node wikibase:timeValue ?birth1; wikibase:timePrecision "11"^^xsd:integer . ?item2 p:P570/psv:P570 ?death2_node . ?death2_node wikibase:timeValue ?death2; wikibase:timePrecision "11"^^xsd:integer . FILTER (?birth1 > ?death2) } } UNION { SELECT ?item WHERE { ?item wdt:P185 ?item2; p:P570/psv:P570 ?death1_node . ?death1_node wikibase:timeValue ?death1; wikibase:timePrecision "11"^^xsd:integer . ?item2 p:P569/psv:P569 ?birth2_node . ?birth2_node wikibase:timeValue ?birth2; wikibase:timePrecision "11"^^xsd:integer . FILTER (?birth2 > ?death1) } } }
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P185#Doctoral student didn't live during the same time as his/her doctoral advisor

MeaningEdit

What does it mean? What's the difference from "doctoral advisor"? Why Max Planck is a PhD-student of more than 10 professors? Infovarius (talk) 10:56, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

A person has usually only one or two doctoral advisors, and he himself may be later on a doctoral advisor of dozens of students. Planck had over 10 PhD students under him. DGtal (talk) 10:54, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
I know about one-two. Read my question carefully, as 2≠10. Or this property is inverse to "doctoral advisor"? --Infovarius (talk) 14:43, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
doctoral student (P185) is inverse property (P1696) doctoral advisor (P184). — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 11:46, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

ScopeEdit

I take it that this should only be used for PhD students and not postdocs? I have removed one postdoc from the listing of doctoral student (P185). Any thoughts about this? — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 11:49, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

  • Do we actually need this property?
    --- Jura 12:35, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
    • Listed it for deletion. --- Jura 17:59, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

ConstraintsEdit

Why does this property require the sex or gender of the doctoral student be set? Seems a bit overly specific. --Infomuse (talk) 18:39, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

  • Seems odd that one wouldn't know it. Maybe the statement should be deleted. --- Jura 05:23, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
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