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doctoral student
doctoral student(s) of a professor

Description	Doctoral student(s) of a professor. Inverse of doctoral advisor (P184). See also student (P802)
Represents	doctoral student (Q12764792)
Data type	Item
Template parameter	|doctoral_students= in en:Template:Infobox scientist
Domain	persons (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
Allowed values	human (Q5) (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
Example	J. J. Thomson (Q47285) → Ernest Rutherford (Q9123) Max Planck (Q9021) → Max von Laue (Q57067) Enrico Fermi (Q8753) → Tsung-Dao Lee (Q183679) Batya Friedman (Q95183473) → Janet Davis (Q102243277) Daisy Yoo (Q107630354)
Robot and gadget jobs	DeltaBot does the following jobs: Add inverse statements from P184
Tracking: usage	Category:Pages using Wikidata property P185 (Q23909084)
See also	student (P802)
Lists	Items with the most statements of this property Count of items by number of statements (chart) Items with the most statements Items with the fewest statements Count of items by number of sitelinks (chart) Items with the most sitelinks Items with the most sitelinks, but no link to one Wikipedia (sample: Welsh Wikipedia, cywiki) Items with the fewest sitelinks Most linked wikis Items with the most identifier properties By value of property Most statements Fewest statements Most sitelinks Most linked wikis Total of sitelinks on items Most identifiers Fewest identifiers Items with no other statements Most recently created items Items with novalue claims Items with unknown value claims Usage history (total) Usage history (main statement) Chart by item creation date Map of people by place values: place of birth educated at work location residence place of death place of burial January 1st dates People with date of birth on January 1 People with date of death on January 1 People with both dates on January 1 Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P185 Database reports/Humans with missing claims/P185 Database reports/Constraint violations/P185 Map Random list
Proposal discussion	Proposal discussion
Current uses	Total 354,385 Main statement 354,371 >99.9% of uses Qualifier 8 <0.1% of uses Reference 6 <0.1% of uses
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Inverse property of “doctoral advisor (P184)”:
if [item A] has this property (doctoral student (P185)) linked to [item B],
then [item B] should also have property “doctoral advisor (P184)” linked to [item A]. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P185#inverse, SPARQL

Value type “human (Q5), fictional human (Q15632617)”: This property should use items as value that contain property “instance of (P31)”. On these, the value for instance of (P31) should be an item that uses subclass of (P279) with value human (Q5), fictional human (Q15632617) (or a subclass thereof). (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P185#Value type Q5, Q15632617, hourly updated report, SPARQL

Item “instance of (P31): human (Q5)”: Items with this property should also have “instance of (P31): human (Q5)”. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). Known exceptions: Charlie Eppes (Q2290414)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P185#Item P31, search, SPARQL

Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as qualifier (Q54828449): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P185#Scope, SPARQL

Contemporaries:
if [item A] has this property (doctoral student (P185)) linked to [item B],
then [item A] and [item B] have to coincide or coexist at some point of history. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P185#Contemporary, SPARQL

Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P185#Entity types

This property is being used by: eu:Txantiloi:Biografia infotaula automatikoa, eu:Txantiloi:Biografia infotaula automatikoa/en hy:Կաղապար:Տեղեկաքարտ Գիտնական, hy:Կաղապար:Տեղեկաքարտ Գիտնական (արեւմտահայերէն), hy:Կաղապար:Տեղեկաքարտ Փիլիսոփա ro:Format:Infocaseta Om de știință ca:Plantilla:Infotaula científic kab:Talɣa:Infobox biography ka:თარგი:ინფოდაფა ეკონომისტი gu:ઢાંચો:Wikidata Infobox, gu:ઢાંચો:Wikidata Infobox/core se:Málle:Biografia infotaula automatikoa/en az:Şablon:Alim mt:Mudell:Infobox biography, mt:Mudell:Infobox bijografija uk:Шаблон:Науковець ha:Template:Infobox biography commons:Template:Wikidata Infobox/core cy:Nodyn:Wikidata Infobox es:Plantilla:Wikidata Infobox id:Templat:Wikidata infobox, id:Templat:Kotak info Wikidata/inti mw:Template:Wikidata Infobox/core mr:साचा:विकिडाटा माहितीचौकट/core, mr:साचा:विकिडेटा माहितीचौकट/core sa:फलकम्:Wikidata Infobox ur:سانچہ:خانہ معلومات ویکی ڈیٹا/کور, ur:سانچہ:خانہ معلومات کھلاڑی/عربی, ur:سانچہ:Wikidata Infobox/core q:fr:Modèle:Wikidata Infobox/core de:Vorlage:Wikidata Infobox/core ta:வார்ப்புரு:Wikidata Infobox/core hi:साँचा:Wikidata Infobox/core ar:قالب:صندوق معلومات رياضي/تجربة ast:Plantía:Persona din:Macuëc:Bio ga:Teimpléad:WD Bosca Sonraí Duine gd:Teamplaid:Bogsa eachdraidh-bheatha ps:کينډۍ:معلومات رياضي ss:Template:Umuntfu sv:Mall:Wikidata Infobox/core ts:Template:Bio s:zh:Template:Wikidata Infobox/core ckb:داڕێژە:Wikidata Infobox/core pt:Predefinição:Wikidata Infobox/core arz:قالب:Infobox person, arz:قالب:صندوق معلومات شخص, arz:قالب:معلومات رياضي, arz:قالب:صندوق معلومات شخصيه خياليه, arz:قالب:معلومات رياضى incubator:Template:Wp/shi/Infobox biography, incubator:Template:Wp/igl/Bio, incubator:Template:Wp/ibb/Bio, incubator:Template:Wp/zgh/Infobox biography ku:Şablon:Wikidata Infobox/core mnw:ထာမ်ပလိက်:Wikidata Infobox/core nl:Sjabloon:Infobox persoon Wikidata qu:Plantilla:Biografia, qu:Plantilla:Kawsay shi:Talɣa:Infobox biography dag:Tɛmplet:Bio s:bn:টেমপ্লেট:উইকিউপাত্ত তথ্যছক/মূল d:Template:Wikidata Infobox/core no:Mal:Wikidata Infobox/core s:ban:Mal:Wikidata Infobox/core ban:Mal:Wikidata Infobox/core lv:Veidne:Wikidata Infobox/core ff:Template:Infobox biography voy:shn:ထႅမ်းပလဵတ်ႉ:Wikidata Infobox gur:Tɛmpileti:Bio s:hi:साँचा:Wikidata Infobox/core zgh:ⴰⵍⴱⵓⴹ:Infobox biography dga:Tɛmpileti:Bio gpe:Template:Bio Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.)

Meaning

What does it mean? What's the difference from "doctoral advisor"? Why Max Planck is a PhD-student of more than 10 professors? Infovarius (talk) 10:56, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

A person has usually only one or two doctoral advisors, and he himself may be later on a doctoral advisor of dozens of students. Planck had over 10 PhD students under him. DGtal (talk) 10:54, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

I know about one-two. Read my question carefully, as 2≠10. Or this property is inverse to "doctoral advisor"? --Infovarius (talk) 14:43, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

doctoral student (P185) is inverse property (P1696) doctoral advisor (P184). — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 11:46, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

Scope

I take it that this should only be used for PhD students and not postdocs? I have removed one postdoc from the listing of doctoral student (P185). Any thoughts about this? — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 11:49, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

• Do we actually need this property?
  --- Jura 12:35, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
  • Listed it for deletion. --- Jura 17:59, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
• In the deletion discussion, it came up that there seems to be a translation issue, see Wikidata:Properties_for_deletion/Archive/2022/1#doctoral_student_(P185). --- Jura 11:12, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Constraints

Why does this property require the sex or gender of the doctoral student be set? Seems a bit overly specific. --Infomuse (talk) 18:39, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

• Seems odd that one wouldn't know it. Maybe the statement should be deleted. --- Jura 05:23, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

French label

Following this request for comments, the French label now includes the male and the female form. PAC2 (talk) 04:38, 15 June 2022 (UTC)